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01 Mar 02 - 04:36 PM (#660850) Subject: War Winning Weapon From: John Gray Several weeks ago one of the threads discussed Spam. I knew what it was and had read about it being part of the diet for the military in WWII, but I had never tasted it. So, when I saw a small can on the s/market shelf, here in OZ, I grabbed it. It's made by Hormel Foods, Austin. MN. All I can say is, that if you fed this stuff to animals you'd be cited for cruelty. Forget about weapons of distruction, if they had of dropped this stuff on the enemy in WWII they would have surrended en masse. Hit Afghanistan with it and Bin Laden will break his neck to give up. I reckon it's 'tinned salt', let it dry, gring it up , and whack it in the salt shaker. One of the ingredients, listed on the label, is 'mechanically separated chicken'. Now I'm having trouble getting my mind around that. Do they have a robot pull the chooks apart? Are they on a rack and stretched until they tear apart? Mechanically separated, what a great phrase. I'm going to whack it in my will. Among the other things in there to put a smile on my Son's faces when I depart, I can just see Ryder reading the will - shit, dad wants to be mechanically separated. Followed by Slade - okay, lets get the fucking Caterpiller out. JG/FME |
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01 Mar 02 - 04:44 PM (#660857) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Irish sergeant John: Mechanically separated? That sounds like something Himmler and that gang thought of. being from the land of the big PX,(America in Vietnam Era military slang) I can state with certainty that nobody really knows what is in Spam. Sure is strange. I like the idea of dropping it on Bin Laden exept I spent some time in the Middle East and seen what those folks eat. Brr Heinous! HAVE A GREAT WEEK END! Neil |
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01 Mar 02 - 04:56 PM (#660868) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: McGrath of Harlow I quite liked Spam. Too salty? A bit bland I seem to remember.
Is that a clue to differences in taste preferences down under? Like the difference between Marmite and Vegemite, which sweems a bit bland too for my tastebuds. (I'm not knocking Vegemite - if I couldn't get Marmite or any of the Marmite clones they sell in supermarkets, I think I could just about get by with Vegemite.) |
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01 Mar 02 - 05:00 PM (#660870) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: CarolC Muahahahahaha!!!
Spam haters of the world unite!
One of the most gawdawful things my mother ever inflicted on me (baked with a nasty clotted concoction of mustard, honey and milk), besides lima beans! |
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01 Mar 02 - 05:22 PM (#660885) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: artbrooks Actually, it tastes quite good fried over a diesel-fuel stove and served with LOTS of hot sauce. |
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01 Mar 02 - 05:23 PM (#660886) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: John Gray Maybe the Spam recipe has changed over the years or maybe just this manufacturer has a high salt content in their product but gee whizz, it made my eyes water. This company could save on cans. There is so much salt in the Spam that it would stay preserverd without resorting to canning. JG/FME |
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01 Mar 02 - 05:35 PM (#660898) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: McGrath of Harlow Maybe you really need wartime rationing to appreciate it. Maybe combined with extreme youth.
But if it's that salty it sounds as if they must have changed the recipe.
As artbrooks said, it's best fried.
But I'd sooner risk it than a Big Mac. |
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01 Mar 02 - 06:44 PM (#660947) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Gareth Actually I like it ! Me mother aquirded the taste during Wartime Rationing, and it was/is served up time and time again BTW The origin of "Spam" or "Spaming" Bland, and evrybody gets some !!! Gareth |
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01 Mar 02 - 07:55 PM (#661001) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Ebbie They say that Hawaii and Alaska consume more Spam (spiced ham, right?) than any other US states. Probably because of the shipping distances affecting fresh meat. I do remember eating it in Oregon during the WWII years. I've tried eating it -once - in recent years, just as I tried 'Postum'. ONE time. arrrrggggghhhhhh... Ebbie |
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01 Mar 02 - 08:09 PM (#661014) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: mack/misophist My Philippino friends tell me it's one of the most popular breakfast foods in the islands. They eat it fried. The only way to go. Fry till crusty and serve with a nice Bernaise. Wonderful!!! |
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01 Mar 02 - 08:15 PM (#661019) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Irish sergeant To be honest, I've eaten it. The taste isn't bad but I always found it a bit salty for my tastes and a bit fatty. I'd rather risk turnips (Which by the way I loathe since I got sick on them.) Spam was a staple in our house. With eleven children in the house., Mom and DAd made do as best they could and Spam with hot sauce is palatable although with horse radish is better. Have a good weekend. Spam is now doing turkey. Be afraid, be very afraid! Mwahahha! Neil |
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01 Mar 02 - 08:24 PM (#661026) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Listen here pal,Spam made me the man ah am theday.Ye can eat it richt oot o' the can,that saves electricity.As long as ye dinnae open the can it keeps forever,very handy in a post Apocalyptic world.Fried up it cleans oot yer innards oan the way oot,saving ye fae intestinal blockages.Boiled up ye can skim the fat aff the tap an' lubricate yer bike or ither intricate mechanical contraptions. It wis Spam that won the war.Jings ah'm droolin oan the keys jist thinkin aboot it. Ane o' the wonders o' the modern world. ljc Btw,ye never hear o' Spam eaters wi' the piles!!! |
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01 Mar 02 - 08:41 PM (#661045) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Hormel developed America's first canned ham (''Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham'') in 1926, and eleven years later developed the first canned meat product that did not require refrigeration. It was a ''distinctive chopped pork shoulder and ham mixture'' developed by Jay C. Hormel, son of Hormel founder George A. Hormel, and marketed as ''Hormel Spiced Ham'' - not a terribly inspiring name for an innovative product fated to save lives, win wars, and balance diets of people world wide.
Hormel Spiced Ham got off to a slightly rocky start. Other meatpackers began to introduce their own canned luncheon meats, and Hormel lost its controlling share of the market. Soon, however, they came up with a cunning plan to rectify this situation - they would give Hormel's luncheon meat a truly catchy name. Toward this end, they offered $100 for a suitable appellation. The winning name was, of course, ''SPAM'', and a legend was born.
SPAM was launched with much high-profile advertising in mid-1937. It was called ''the Miracle Meat'', and promoted as an anytime meat. In 1940, SPAM was the subject of quite possibly the first singing commercial. The jingle was to the tune of the chorus of ''My Bonny Lies Over The Ocean'', and the lyrics were ''SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM/ Hormel's new miracle meat in a can/ Tastes fine, saves time./ If you want something grand,/ Ask for SPAM!''. Hormel also sponsored George Burns' and Gracie Allen's network radio show, which included ''Spammy the Pig''. During World War II, sales boomed. Not only was SPAM great for the military, as it required no refrigeration, it wasn't rationed as beef was, so it became a prime staple in American meals. SPAM supported the war effort more directly, too. Nikita Kruschev credits SPAM with the survival of the Russian Army during WWII. During the late 1940s and early 1950s, the Hormel Girls performing troupe advertised SPAM as they performed throughout the country, distributed SPAM door-to-door, and even had a national weekly radio show. Ads proclaimed, ''Cold or hot, SPAM hits the spot!''
What now awaits us on the SPAM front? Only time (and possibly Hormel) will tell. |
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01 Mar 02 - 08:55 PM (#661053) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: McGrath of Harlow "Ye can eat it richt oot o' the can,that saves electricity." Mind, that goes for cat food too.
What's that film where a gangster hitman on a stakeout lives off cat food, straight out of the tin? My cats are healthier than me anyway, it's probably very nutritious and tasty. |
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01 Mar 02 - 09:43 PM (#661073) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: kendall When I was in the service back in the 50's we had to clean out the survivors rations. Many cans of SPAM. We took great pleasure in dumping that crap! |
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01 Mar 02 - 10:26 PM (#661112) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Ebbie In Juneau, Alaska, we seem to have rather odd but descriptive names for various local features. For instance, a 70-acre land spit created from the tailings of bygone gold mines is called 'The Rock Dump'. An unfortunately apt building that houses the State Department of Labor is called 'The Plywood Palace'. Our State Office Building is the S.O.B. And a tall, silvery-sided office building with ribbony strips at intervals is popularly known as the Spam Can. |
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01 Mar 02 - 10:33 PM (#661120) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: DougR I haven't eaten Spam since WWII. Don't plan to either. Carol C, you don't like Lima beans? Someday we will find something we both like. I'm an optomist! DougR |
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01 Mar 02 - 10:47 PM (#661131) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: CarolC They make me gag and want to vomit. |
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01 Mar 02 - 10:59 PM (#661138) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Hahahaha!!!Carol.ljc |
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01 Mar 02 - 11:02 PM (#661140) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: dick greenhaus and I thought the ultimate war weapon was the pretzel... |
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01 Mar 02 - 11:21 PM (#661151) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: kendall Oh my Dick! I mean, wow that was clever. Dont you think so, Doug? I'm with Carol C...always hated Lima beans, celery, broccoli and zuchinni. |
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01 Mar 02 - 11:25 PM (#661153) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: rangeroger I like Spam. It has to be the true stuff however, none of that mechanically separated chicken.I too have wondered how that is accomplished. The Spam I like has to be 100% pork by-products or it is not worth the salt it is made out of. Spam, Lovely Spam. rr |
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01 Mar 02 - 11:45 PM (#661161) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Crivvens whit up we ye ataw,Lima beans, celery, broccoli and zuchinni. Manna fae heaven.Ah love them aw'.ljc |
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01 Mar 02 - 11:45 PM (#661162) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Little Hawk Doug - Did you mean you're an optimist or an optometrist? Spam? Have hardly ever eaten it at all...I recall that it's very salty, but it's not the kind of thing I would usually think of eating. I bet it's not as repulsive as haggis, but of course it is more common... - LH |
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02 Mar 02 - 12:22 AM (#661167) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: JohnInKansas S. P. A. M. Something Posing As Meat Actually, SPAM is sort of a staple for campers around my parts. I don't know many people who eat it regularly at home - more of a special occasion delicacy - but a fair percentage of folk at any festival campsite will have a can or two tucked away, just in case. Tourists should visit the Seattle SPAM Festival, where fame and prizes are awarded for "SPAM Carving." It's actually no more noxious than most processed "luncheon meats" if properly prepared. Grilled with Velveeta, (the other simulated food product of great fame) it makes a tasty sandwich. (Since it's usually reserved for "emergencies" when you've run out of ice and everything else looks much worse, one must be certain to pick the blue and green spots off the bread before grilling.) Adds splendid variety if you packed light and are living on MREs. John |
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02 Mar 02 - 01:56 AM (#661189) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Chip2447 Spam is wonderful stuff, grilled, fried, broiled or baked. Spam burgers and spam casseroles, spam and cheese fondue, spam shish kabobs, chunked spam in Kraft mac and cheese. Spam and corn bread, Spam and a a big pot of navy beans. Damn, I'm getting hungry.... Chip2447...(not affiliated with the Hormel company) |
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02 Mar 02 - 02:55 AM (#661196) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: John Gray I just had another look at my Spam can and I see it's 'spreadable'. So maybe it is a different and more salty recipe. Or maybe that's something to do with the mechanical separation bit, maybe the chickens have to 'spread 'em' first, before they can be mechanically separated. Sounds like a job Luther could really get his teeth into! JG/FME
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02 Mar 02 - 09:04 AM (#661249) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Little Hawk,ye're treadin oan dangerous grun' there,insultin the Great Chieftain O' the Puddin race!!!Have ye ever had it or are ye bein taen in wi' the Anti-Haggis propagana? ljc |
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02 Mar 02 - 09:31 AM (#661258) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Gareth On the other hand These Gareth |
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02 Mar 02 - 09:33 AM (#661261) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Gareth .... Were nicknamed Spam Cans Gareth |
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02 Mar 02 - 10:34 AM (#661300) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: artbrooks Little John's history of spam is interesting, but incomplete...or perhaps it is shaded to conceal the real truth. Anyway, the stuff beat C-rations. |
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02 Mar 02 - 10:51 AM (#661310) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: heric I was half listening to the Cartoon Network in the background just now, when I heard Johnny Bravo refer to "a rotten bag of body parts." This piqued my hearing attentiveness just in time to hear the guest cartoon star, sounding for all the world just exactly like ljc, say: "OOh, stop. Yer makin me mouth water." Dan |
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02 Mar 02 - 11:43 AM (#661336) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: CarolC Oohhh... Spreadable. How insidious. Next they'll be putting it in squeezable squirt bottles like that horrible peanut butter and jelly abomination and sending it to school with the kids. Where will it all end? |
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02 Mar 02 - 11:59 AM (#661343) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Bobert Now, the poor ol bobert quit eating red meat back in the 60's but there were two disgusting things that I admit to having occasional cravings: Spam and Scrapple. Well, they now have Turkey Spam, which I'll fry up a slice of about once a month. Now, if they could just make a Turkey Scrapple, I'd be a happier hillbilly. As fir dropping the Spam on Osama. He might go fir the Turkey Spam but Muslem he won't ouch the old stuff. Heck, he might like it so much that he'd venture out of his cave in search of another can of yummy spam... |
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02 Mar 02 - 01:51 PM (#661406) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Little Hawk Little John - Tae be bruitally honest aboot it, Ah wis jist hae'in a wee bit o' fun at the expense o' the Scots. I hae naeverrr taested haggis, Ah'm sad tae sae... - LH |
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02 Mar 02 - 01:54 PM (#661411) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Don Firth In the late Sixties, a few of us used to get together frequently on Saturday mornings (early Saturday afternoons, really) and someone would cook up a huge mess of Spam and scrambled eggs. We would consume enough so that for the next hour or two, all we could do was sit around and burp and scratch. My wife Barbara is not really freaky about diet, but she keeps up on the elements of good nutrition, avoiding too much salt, saturated fats, minimizing red meat intake, that sort of thing. She's pretty creative, so I can't complain. She does most of the cooking, because my culinary skills encompass such things as throwing a frozen dinner in the microwave and making Dagwood sandwiches with bagels. They peak out with the peanut butter and grape jelly sandwich (my pn & gj sandwiches must be eaten while wearing a towel, otherwise you turn blue). I was seventy years old my last birthday and I'm essentially sedentary because I'm stuck in a wheelchair, but my blood pressure hovers around 130 over 80 and the last time my cholesterol was tested, it came out at 1 76, with a good balance of HDLs and LDLs. Sometimes I would kill for a huge plate of fried Spam and scrambled eggs!!! Don (drool drool) Firth |
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02 Mar 02 - 03:07 PM (#661444) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: DougR L.H. Optimist. Carol C, Kendall: I suppose you two don't like Mountain Oysters either! I suppose they make you want to throw-up too, huh Carol C.? I declare, you just can't account for the likes of some folks. DougR |
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02 Mar 02 - 03:17 PM (#661449) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Whit's yer point Art?ljc |
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02 Mar 02 - 05:17 PM (#661499) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Little Hawk Art - The Spam-Shatner connection had never occurred to me. Thanks for bringing notice to it! I see possibilities for adding a 1/2 credit cooking course here at the WSSBA... - LH |
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02 Mar 02 - 06:24 PM (#661514) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Les from Hull Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg, bacon and spam; egg, bacon, sausage and spam; spam, bacon, sausage and spam; spam, egg, spam, spam, bacon and spam; spam, spam, spam, egg and spam; spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam; or Lobster thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam. |
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02 Mar 02 - 06:34 PM (#661521) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: gnu Spam... Prem. Prem luncheon meat... now there's a jewel. Best eaten early in the morning, so you can enjoy it all day. |
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02 Mar 02 - 06:35 PM (#661522) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Gareth More pictures of Spam Cans - Battle of Britain Class Gareth |
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02 Mar 02 - 07:44 PM (#661554) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: GUEST,jaze Slightly OT but Spam burgers reminded me of a culinary treat here in Va. that I'd never heard of before moving here: Bologna burgers! I've never tried one but they are popular here. |
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02 Mar 02 - 07:55 PM (#661561) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Hrothgar I always had my doubts about it, and then came the Spam song - was it the Monthy Python crew? I would rather eat luncheon sausage, which includes in its contents "manufactured meat" along with a string of numbers. |
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02 Mar 02 - 08:53 PM (#661591) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Bill D but, Spam has already been used against the Roosians!! look here! ...you don't see Yeltsin around anymore, do you? |
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02 Mar 02 - 09:05 PM (#661604) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: MarkS Catters better not go to Hawaii, where Spam is the national meal. And CarolC If you ever get to Montreal, let me give you the name of a Greek restaurant there. The Lima Beans are served with each meal as an accompiment, and they are to die for. Mark Who always hated Lima Beans, but not in Montreal |
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02 Mar 02 - 09:22 PM (#661617) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Bill D "De gustibus non disputantum est" ..funny, I ate a lot of Spam as a kid...have barely tasted it since, but I don't mind it...just never need it. I ate it fried, with catsup (as a sandwich). Lima beans??? well, depends...'good' Lima beans are ok! (or Butter beans or Black-eyed peas))...but something about them really bothers some folk. (I suppose Vienna Sausages are in the same 'ughhh' list?) 30 years ago I worked at a Stokley-Van Camp cannery/warehouse, and the crew ate a LOT of beans, Vienna sausages, canned fruit, canned chili...etc..usually in 8 oz. cans...you could put a can on the manifold of the fork lift or in the vanes of an overhead heater for 20 minutes and have instant lunch! I learned to eat butter beans right from the can with salt & pepper added from a little dispenser I carried. EVERYONE had a P-38 army surplus can opener in their pocket, and some guys went for years without bringing linch. |
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03 Mar 02 - 10:22 AM (#661800) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: dick greenhaus Spam contains all of the basic nutritional groups: Salt Sugar Fat Additives A perfect food. |
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03 Mar 02 - 08:45 PM (#662151) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: kendall OH MY GOD! I just had a horrible thought. Mechanically separated chicken means Road kill! they are talking about a freekin' car! |
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03 Mar 02 - 08:55 PM (#662159) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: little john cameron Whit's the difference,it's still deid.ljc |
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03 Mar 02 - 09:07 PM (#662164) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: CarolC Wow, MarkS. I love Montreal. Do you think we can get DougR to launch a fundraising campaign to send me to this Greek restaurant with the to die for lima beans? I think he has some background in fundraising, and he seems pretty attached to the idea of people liking lima beans. Maybe he can get the North American Lima Bean Council involved or something.
We could even do a photo thing with me posing with a bowl of these amazing lima beans at all of the major landmarks in the city, and I'm sure somebody could come up with some sort of fancy title for me, like Ms. To Die For Montreal Lima Bean 2002 or something. I'm salivating already. |
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04 Mar 02 - 04:11 PM (#662660) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: bob schwarer Ate a lot of spam back in the 40's. A thought it was great compared to the other stuff we could get. Haven't had any in years. Road kill is fine if you get it soon enough. A little bit ago there was a big to-do about who was entitled to road kill and what could be done with it. (No jokes please). Can't remember all the details, but the gist of it was that you couldn't give it to the needy. Something about inspections if I am remembering right. Bob S. |
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04 Mar 02 - 09:32 PM (#662874) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Irish sergeant Now scrapple is good! I ain't sure about the road kill but hell, if you knew what they put in hot dogs, road kill would be preferable. Now here is a commercial I'd like to see. remember the old Shake and bake commercial with the little southern girl? dig this tag line. "Momma made shake and bake for road kill and I helped!" Neil |
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05 Mar 02 - 12:37 AM (#662962) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: ddw I grew up eating Spam once or twice a week, then went for years without any. I was camping once and went into town for supplies, saw some on the shelf and decided to try it. I was always told the name was a contraction of "spiflicated (sp?) ham" and it was as good as any other luncheon meat. My memory was that I quite liked it. What was in that can bore NO resemblance to what I remembered. It was salty, laced with a gelatinous, fatty yuk and had a half inch of suet on top. 'Fraid I'm in the don't-like-it camp now. cheers, david |
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05 Mar 02 - 02:01 AM (#662988) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Amergin When I lived in Astoria, OR...I knew several Hawaiians....they would all get these huge care packages from home....half the packages were nothing but Spam...then a part of them would be their funky tasting candies..... |
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06 Mar 02 - 11:03 PM (#663966) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: artbrooks In acknowledgement of the timeless popularity of this mystery meat, I see in today's (3/6/02) paper that Ms. Mary Jones of Gosport, Indiana has won a $2,500 shopping spree at the Mall of America for her recipe for muffins made with cranberries, corn bread stuffing and Spam Oven Roasted Turkey. The recipe is here: Spam Muffins Way to Go, Mary Jones!!! |
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07 Mar 02 - 03:38 AM (#664054) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: Steve Parkes Harking rioght back to John Gray's first post: I believe the US dropped a lot of Spam on Britain in WWII ... that explains a lot! Steve |
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07 Mar 02 - 10:51 AM (#664198) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: GUEST,Penny S. (elsewhere) School dinner: Spam fritters (fried in batter), chips and tinned spaghetti in tomato sauce. Possible with sliced beetroot. Yeurgh Penny |
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07 Mar 02 - 12:44 PM (#664288) Subject: RE: BS: War Winning Weapon From: M.Ted Time to get out the recipes--Hawaii's famous SPAM sushi:
Halau Style - SPAM MUSUBI
3 1/2 cup uncooked rice - steamed
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