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04 Mar 02 - 09:34 PM (#662876) Subject: Tipperary Recruiting Sergeant From: McGrath of Harlow This song, "The Tipperary Recruiting Sergeant", gets a mention in a thread about Arthur McBride - in a quote from some notes by Frank Harte. It's evidently a different song from Arthur McBride, and was popular in the anti-conscription campaign in the Great War in Ireland.
So it'd be interesting to know more about it and have the words. Any volunteers? |
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04 Mar 02 - 11:06 PM (#662934) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tipperary Recruiting Sergeant From: masato sakurai Isn't it the same song as "Tipperary Recruiting Song"? The lyrics are HERE and HERE. Info from The Traditional Ballad Index is:
Tipperary Recruiting Song, The ~Masato |
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05 Mar 02 - 10:54 AM (#663039) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tipperary Recruiting Sergeant From: McGrath of Harlow Thanks a lot.
No, they never managed to bring in conscription in Ireland. Opposition to attempts to bring it in was a big organising issue for the Republicans in the latter half of the Great War.
I am sure this would have been sung around that time - especially with the lines "There's never a one will handle a gun
But the words, especially the second link, imply that it would have been older than that. |
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07 Mar 02 - 09:00 AM (#664143) Subject: Lyr Add: TIPPERARY RECRUITING SONG (Trad. Irish) From: Jim Dixon Lyrics and commentary copied from http://www.kinglaoghaire.com/ballads/inball2.html
TIPPERARY RECRUITING SONG
'Tis now we'd want to be wary, boys.
Then hurrah for the gallant Tipperary boys!
Now mind what John Bull did here, my boys:
Now Bull wants to pillage and rob, my boys,
So never to 'list be in haste, my boys,
But now he is beat for men, my boys.
Then mind not the nobblin' old schemer, boys.
Now, isn't Bull peaceful and civil, boys,
Then hurrah for the gallant Tipperary boys! January 7, 1868: A British military force under Sir Robert Napier invades Abyssinia in order to compel King Theodore to release the imprisoned British consul. Once again Irishmen are called upon to die for the Empire. After a short campaign - victory. Prime Minister Disraeli: "He (Napier) led the elephants of Asia, bearing the artillery of Europe, over broken passes which might have startled the trapper of Canada and appalled the hunter of the Alps... and we find the standard of St. George hoisted upon the mountains of Rasselas". John Clark Ridpath, writing in his "Life And Times Of Gladstone" (1895), picks up the story: "Thus much for Abyssinia. What of Ireland? In that country things went from bad to worse. There had never been peace. For fully six hundred years of political connection between Ireland and England there had been in the former country only distress, alienation, and the ever-burning spirit of resentment and insurrection... But it is in the character of Great Britain to pursue toward her subject peoples a long course of oppression and spoilation, and then, when her subjects, thus wronged, turn upon her, she calls them rebels, revolutionists, incendiaries and assassins". Caubeen = cap, Damer = John Damer, wealthy 18th-century English nobleman. |