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11 Mar 02 - 04:33 AM (#666760) Subject: Men in their 'proper places' From: gnomad The thread "Women in their proper places" got me thinking; the women and the men both seem to have strong ideas (not always identical) about the proper place for women, but apart from "Keeping women happy" there seems little comment on the proper place for men. Could it be (as I have been assured by more than one woman) that we have no business asking? Or is it as a more forthright woman told me, and man's place is "In the wrong"? |
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11 Mar 02 - 04:39 AM (#666761) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: CarolC Your place is neither in front of us nor behind us, but at our side. We're all just people, you know. |
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11 Mar 02 - 06:00 AM (#666787) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Mr Red gnomad If you don't know you certainly have no business asking! That's for you to find out! right now my proper place is negotiable (for once in my life) and that's why I proudly proclaim I am "jumping with Joy" - at every ceilidh and cajun hop in the locale. |
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11 Mar 02 - 06:14 AM (#666790) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Wilfried Schaum May I suggest two proper places? 1. Barracks 2. Marching with the band Wilfried |
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11 Mar 02 - 08:05 AM (#666822) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: GUEST,KB@work Keeping the women happy sounds like a good start..... KRis |
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11 Mar 02 - 08:09 AM (#666823) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: kendall What Carol C said. |
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11 Mar 02 - 08:50 AM (#666850) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos Well, most men like to believe their proper place is inside women, but they don't talk about it much. I don't think this idea is as widely shared on the distaff side!! A |
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11 Mar 02 - 09:08 AM (#666864) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: CarolC Although I might have to agree with this idea of Amos'... given the right circumstances. (Ahem... ) |
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11 Mar 02 - 09:34 AM (#666883) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos If a man's place is keeping a woman happy, it would seem to foller that a woman's is keeping a man happy. It is EVEN possible that these postulates are incorrectly bounded by gender, and the general abstract principle should be that a human's place is making humans happy. Wodda concept!!! :>) A |
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11 Mar 02 - 09:39 AM (#666887) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Bat Goddess Side by side, guys, side by side. We're all in this together. Linn |
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11 Mar 02 - 09:46 AM (#666892) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: RichM What Kendall said (What CarolC said...) And keep yerself happy, first of all. Then you can share that happiness with someone else, male or female. If you so choose. Rich |
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11 Mar 02 - 09:50 AM (#666896) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: GUEST,KB@work well said, Amos |
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11 Mar 02 - 01:44 PM (#667055) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: wysiwyg People should not try to make each other happy. That can become an unhealthy co-dependency. Happiness is a byproduct, not a goal. Reach for some good goal and happiness often results. The most inspiring thing I have heard on that subject-- tho it is hard to live-- is that real intimacy comes not from being close, it comes from standing side by side and looking out towards something else the two people care about and commit themselves to. ~S~
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11 Mar 02 - 02:03 PM (#667072) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos Well, really, there is no other way to make anyone --even yourself --happy, other than by winning your way to a goal of SOME kind, even if only partly known. That's where the big H comes from, after all! Sharing that condition certainly fulfills the requirement. A |
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11 Mar 02 - 03:08 PM (#667110) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: wysiwyg No, the point was the effort, not the win. The change in affect from joining with someone for something greater than themselves or one another. Perhaps even greater intimacy comes from not winning, yet persisting. ~S~ |
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11 Mar 02 - 03:09 PM (#667112) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Little Hawk For either a man or a woman, finding one's "proper place" can become a lifetime occupation. I think that to become enlightened means (among other things) to become aware that one is always in one's proper place, regardless of exterior circumstances. - LH |
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11 Mar 02 - 03:37 PM (#667121) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Irish sergeant Agree to Side by side. Happiness is something we find by sharing the joys and the travails of life with those we care for (Of either gender) There are times when each of us must step back however so the other might shine. Kindest regards, neil |
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11 Mar 02 - 04:18 PM (#667155) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos Intimacy is not the same thing as happiness. Happiness is wholly dependent on taking action toward some envisioned or sensed goal and communicating in the direction of that goal. Efforts which do not overcome SOME obstacle toward the goal are not conducive to happiness. Too many loses and even the desire to communicate goes away. A |
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11 Mar 02 - 04:52 PM (#667195) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: harpgirl ...hmmmm, men "in their proper places?????" under........ or over........behind.......in front.....sideways.... gosh, am I missing any places???? |
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11 Mar 02 - 04:55 PM (#667199) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Bobert Accordong to my cousin Rufus, a man's place, and I quote: "Why, Bobberz, I'll til ya wadz a manz place. Eny danged place hez happenz ta be, dats where. Ef eats behindz da Sweet Sprengs Store drenkin wid Clets and der boys den dats where hes place es, an ef Iz driving en my Chevette den dat's where Iz es, an...." Ol' Bobert goinna stick with CarolC since she is leading Amos by a score of 3 to 2, No, make that 4 to 2 now... Actually, most men know the answer to this one, but just (play) dumb (wink, wink). Right, boys? |
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11 Mar 02 - 05:49 PM (#667236) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: wysiwyg Amos, I am speaking narrowly to the point you raised about mena nd women "making" each other "happy," not debating whether winning is part of happiness. I am speaking to the concept that intimacy is one goal that poften leads to the byproduct of happiness. ~Susan
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11 Mar 02 - 05:55 PM (#667239) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: alanabit I like it when me and my girl both get into the right position... |
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11 Mar 02 - 06:53 PM (#667281) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Mr Red WYSIWYG I beg to differ - we should be allowed to try to make someone happy. Provisos abound - are we doing it to please ourselves, does the target want to be made happy, if not then don't! and will it be done in a way that actually gives happiness? clearly it is not for everyone and not at all times but not "never" either. I work on the principle if I don't know if, why, when or whether I have no business trying. but when happiness can be given properly it rewards the givers too. sensitvity is what I am saying. |
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11 Mar 02 - 07:45 PM (#667325) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: khandu But if we are dependant of someone else to make us happy, we will not be happy. I cannot speak for others. I can only say that my place is exactly where I am at the moment. Tomorrow is another day, another set of circumstances, another pile of challenges. Hopefully, I will be in the "proper place" to meet them. Each man must find their own "proper place". khandu |
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11 Mar 02 - 08:03 PM (#667342) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: The Pooka I believe WYSIWYG Susan is suggesting that there are higher values that personal happiness---my own *or* my loved one's (which, if enhanced by me, in turn enhances my own as noted above, & thus is not altogether unselfishly pursued). This is a tough lesson. Most good ones are. With Mr Red, Susan, I would respectfully demur on the ex cathedra proclamation (fergive me fadduh) that "People should not try to make each other happy." Putting it that way is a wee bit absolute, there. And while such effort indeed "can become unhealthy co-dependency", it does not *necessarily*. But I agree that there are far more important things than happiness. Fortunately--given that *un*happiness, like sin, so pervades this world. (Saaay - is there a connection there?) Now what all this says about A Man's Place, I forget right now. However, I just remembered I gotta go wash the dishes. |
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11 Mar 02 - 08:08 PM (#667344) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Dave the Gnome All this talk about side-by-side reminded me that I found out how to make love back to back the other day. The missus wern't impressed when I told her though. Invite another couple...;-) Cheers Dave the Gnome |
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11 Mar 02 - 08:24 PM (#667354) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos Ya know, sometimes I just want to throw up my hands. If you will read what I said, instead of whatever the confusion was you were reacting to, you will find we are not that far apart. JEEZ, Louise!! There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to make others happy. Of COURSE it isn't an end in itself. It is still a perfectly good thing to do. Making people rich is, also, even though they still have to clear up what good being so will do them and how to use it best. A. |
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11 Mar 02 - 08:32 PM (#667359) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: GUEST,Lyle I was going to give you my opinion on this, but my wife won't let me. |
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11 Mar 02 - 08:32 PM (#667360) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: CarolC Maybe the distinction that's being missed is "need".
If I enjoy doing things for others that add to their happiness, and they enjoy having me do them, we've probably got a pretty healthy situation going on. Especially if it's a two way street. However, if I need to do things to make them happy... if I am attached to the idea that I can control how other people feel, and if they need someone else to make them happy, and they make other people responsible for their feelings, we probably have an unhealthy, co-dependency situation. |
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11 Mar 02 - 09:52 PM (#667403) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos Nicely turned, Carol. Pardon me for snapping! :>) A |
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11 Mar 02 - 09:58 PM (#667408) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Bobert Way to put Amos in his place, CarolC. Jus' funnin. Really. Hey, like Rodney King said, "Can't we all just get along?" |
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11 Mar 02 - 09:59 PM (#667410) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: kendall Happiness comes not from having what you want, but from wanting what you have. |
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11 Mar 02 - 10:21 PM (#667422) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos Bobert, A great line, really, however illusory... A |
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11 Mar 02 - 10:31 PM (#667426) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: michaelr You can't MAKE someone happy, any more than you can make someone love you. IMHO the thing to strive for is to know the person you care about, and make their happiness possible by not getting in the way with selfishness (a lesson some men I know have yet to learn). Other than that, I second Kendall's statement. Cheers, Michael |
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11 Mar 02 - 10:39 PM (#667431) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Deda What really makes me happy is teaching kids Latin. Unfortunately there's no money in it, so I do it on weekends as a hobby and drag myself, mon-Fri, 8-5, to an office job at which I am none too good, and none too loved. As a Latin teacher I was much more talented, and much more appreciated, and my whole body and my heart and life felt much lighter. I spent many evening hours getting ready for the next day, and felt creative. Now I've fallen into the great American stereotype of dragging myself to a job where I watch the clock and long for weekends. Terrible thread creep -- sorry. Fortunately I have a wonderful man who gets home from his day job just a little after I do -- so I make supper and he cleans up, and the day ends passably well, with us in our place together. |
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11 Mar 02 - 10:45 PM (#667438) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Bobert Amos: I know. This thread is just so entertaining, that I jusy can't help from playing with it. I remember back a million years ago when I was in college and there was this guy by the name of Norman who used his old Volkwagen bug as his soap box. About every month or so he would repaint the entire car and then start over with lettering it from top to bottom with his latest tirade. Well, one day he showed up with a new editorial freshly painted about his relationship with an ex. Well, he started on the roof and went thru the entire thing about gender roles and ended up with the words, "WHAT DO WOMEN WANT?" Well, Amos, he left the car and went off to class and when he returned, the ex had painted over "DO WOMEN" and painted in " DOES NORMAN"... Now, I'm not sure what this has to add or detract from this thread, but it fits in some how. |
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12 Mar 02 - 02:01 PM (#667741) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: GUEST,Diesel Personally - I think Harpgirl (and Amos) got it right - if side by side is good - On top or below is infinitely better..... As for other good places - Sitting room is good, kitchen is fun .... the list goes on ! Diesel |
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13 Mar 02 - 10:29 AM (#668327) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Essex Girl While I'm willing to agree with:- "Well, most men like to believe their proper place is inside women, but they don't talk about it much. I don't think this idea is as widely shared on the distaff side!!" And "Your place is neither in front of us nor behind us, but at our side." This could cause some practical difficulties, unless some men are built differently !
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13 Mar 02 - 09:29 PM (#668709) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos Essex: I think the only solution is an algorithm that proves for alternating prepositions and a mad rate.... A |
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13 Mar 02 - 11:12 PM (#668764) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Mark Clark I have no trouble at all understanding my my proper place. The women in my family were kind enough to post the explanation on the wall.
- Mark The Rules
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14 Mar 02 - 12:07 AM (#668802) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) I'll be seeing you In all the proper places- Or else! |
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14 Mar 02 - 12:56 AM (#668822) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: CarolC Hell, Mark, I couldn't even be happy living in a household with rules like those, and they are supposedly for my benefit.
I'm having a difficult time trying to describe the effect that reading those rules is having on me. Sort of a cringe that extends from the top of my brain, all the way down through all of my innards, and making my teeth itch on the way, and ending up as a big knot of queasy frustration in the middle of my gut. Run away, Mark! Get away from that place as fast as you can! It's evil! |
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14 Mar 02 - 01:02 AM (#668824) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Run Away? No Hiding Place Down Here! |
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14 Mar 02 - 01:09 AM (#668827) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: CarolC Oohhh... That's too bad. Have you tried the Walter Mitty approach? |
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14 Mar 02 - 07:40 AM (#668938) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: kendall There is only one necessary rule, and it is golden. |
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21 Mar 02 - 12:45 AM (#673153) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Mark Clark Carol, I'll take your advice under consideration. <g> I should have added that “The Rules” aren't actually in force in my house. My wife, Jan, and daughter Kate thought they were funny and so did I. Those rules are in the same vein as the philosophical question: If a man is all alone in the forest and there's no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong? Nobody gets uptight at my house... well, that is except for the cat now that we have a dog. - Mark |
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21 Mar 02 - 03:23 AM (#673180) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: CarolC Well that's certainly a relief, Mark.
Re: your question, "If a man is all alone in the forest and there's no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?" I don't know. What do you think? |
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21 Mar 02 - 08:27 AM (#673272) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: kendall he is if the tree falls on him, stupid sod. |
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21 Mar 02 - 09:01 AM (#673289) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: KingBrilliant He's ALWAYS wrong - no question. Kris |
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21 Mar 02 - 01:14 PM (#673417) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: hesperis Great one, Kendall!!!!!! That's going to be one of my favorite jokes now. |
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21 Mar 02 - 04:13 PM (#673545) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Irish sergeant Hell, If I'm always wrong as a man anyway, I might as well enjoy it big time! :~) Have a great evening, Neil |
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21 Mar 02 - 04:39 PM (#673567) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: gnu Just remember four words... oh, yeah, right, sorry. John Wing, philosopher-comedian. |
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21 Mar 02 - 05:27 PM (#673592) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Don Firth A man's proper place is with the remote. Although most women usually know where the "mute" button is so they can zap commercials, in general, they don't really know how to run one of those things. What's the purpose of a remote if you don't use it to channel-surf? Jeez! If a woman has control of the remote, she might watch a whole show all the way through. That's a waste of technology! Seriously:— What CarolC said above, about 11-Mar-02 - 08:32 PM Don Firth |
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21 Mar 02 - 06:41 PM (#673661) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River It is time that a reql man got in on this dischusion and stratinend y09ou losers out! A man's place is any place he flippin well wants to be, like... With a beer in one hand and a babe in the other. NMake that two beer. Behind the wheel of an awsome four by four, with a babe in one hand and a beer in the ohter. (Two beer ain't smart when your drivin.) Where the actshun is. Where the winners hang out. Not in jail. JaIL SERIOUSLY SUCKS EH? Sorry. Capslok got stuck. With a remote in one hand, a babe and three beer in the other, and a hockyey game on the tube. Got the idea? Geez, you people are seriously out ot it if you don['t. The world was made for men. Ask people like Hollyw0od Hulk Hogan. He is a man. He don't appoligize to nonbody, eh? NO man ever apologizes even if he is wrongn cos the world belongs to men, eh? I am sure glad that I am a man. Men RULE!!! Men will always rule. God made it that way and it's the law! You don't beleeve me, then read the flippin book, and see for yourself. Women are needed too, mostly to bring children into the world so we can have more men and to make men happy, eh? And to clean up. Men are mostly not good at that cos they have other stuff thats more important to do. You don't have to be no brain to figure that out. It's basic nowledge,eh? Only skanks and total losers could not know this. - BDiBR
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21 Mar 02 - 07:03 PM (#673673) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: gnu Come on over Blind. I've got a pot of tea on the go and we can start working on your apology right away. Trust me, I've done this before... |
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21 Mar 02 - 08:28 PM (#673716) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Irish sergeant Blind, I don't think they got that many flowers in season...Neil :~) |
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21 Mar 02 - 08:47 PM (#673721) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos Get it said, Brother Blind -- and prepare to meet your Maker, while you're at it (I hear she's really pissed at you!!) LOL!! Regards, A
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21 Mar 02 - 10:18 PM (#673764) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River Got that right Amos...their are a lotta girls, mostly skanks, who are mad aqt me in this town. Tough! I am what I am and I ain't changin'. These girls are like always mad anyway at someone cos it makes em feel inportant to be mad. That's mostly why, I think. I could care less. You clould pave a new highway to Subdury with just the pancake make-up off all the girls around here who have been mad at me. I have not made most of them so I don't know what hyou mean about my "Maker". (Not that I ain't tried, but they are stuck-up...and don't know a good thing when they see it!) I also don't get the dcomment about the flowers at all. That was Neil the Irish Sergeant. You ain't a cop are you, Neil? I been havin sertin disagreements with cops around here as long as I can remember....(which ain't too long! Arf! Arf! A lotta beer and grass can slow the mind, so even tho I was not born stupid (like my idiot brother and all his frineds) I find my memory is kinda, like... What were we talkin' about? Okay, well... Have you guys ever been to Sudbury? We call it "Sudsy", and it is a real man's town. About all you can do there is drink and ride snowmoblies on the lake whch this year has been more dnagerous than usual becoz the ice has not been too good. That's when you ghotta lay on the speed so ya get across ahead of the ice before it breaks, eh? If your too slow then you take a dip and get sobered up real fast...if you live. My brothere has dunked 3 times and lived, proabaly cox he was so drunk that the cold didn't faze him. I have to admit he can drink, eh? But who can't in this family? Fortuanately he did it on borrode equimpement which we did not pay for, so no big loss, eh? I am still the brains of this outfit, no dout of that. This is proved by the fact that my brother (Don the jerk) does not surf trhe flippin net, man! He is such a loser. But he can drink. I always say ya gotta play your strong suit, eh? I got 2 bowers, three of a kind, and a flippin ace up my sleeve, man, and I ain't even started yet. BDiBR |
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21 Mar 02 - 11:06 PM (#673782) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Bearheart In the hot tub. Reading their favorite book. To their favorite woman. So she can be in the hot tub too. Or, same scene, in bed. With music playing of course. Actually, if he's happy does it matter where he is? Or where she is? And I think that Latin teacher should find another town to live in where she can make a living doing what she loves. Deda you break my heart. It wouldn't matter if you didn't love it. But if you do, there must be a way. Bekki |
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22 Mar 02 - 12:04 AM (#673814) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: NightWing One of my best friends mottos:
I am a man. Our female friends always applaud riotously. (And all the males laugh too)
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22 Mar 02 - 04:30 PM (#674269) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Irish sergeant Blind; The comment was aimed to the idea that you might have a lady at home who would take umbrage at your statement and meant as a joke. No, I am not a cop. I re-enact the Civil War as a First sergeant in a Union regiment. Hence Irish Sergeant. I try to avoid the cops. There are times they just don't have a sense of humor. Kindest regards, neil |
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23 Mar 02 - 08:03 AM (#674676) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: GUEST Missionary style - above the woman. |
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23 Mar 02 - 10:12 AM (#674738) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: CarolC Fine day for a troll today isn't it? I mean stroll. |
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23 Mar 02 - 10:23 AM (#674748) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: DMcG From the Copper Family (well, its time for some music in this thread)
Man without woman's a beggar
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23 Mar 02 - 10:36 AM (#674753) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: hesperis lol, as if any girl in her right mind would go out with a guy like BDiBR! |
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23 Mar 02 - 12:06 PM (#674809) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Little Hawk Careful! You'll hurt his feelings... - LH |
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24 Mar 02 - 02:37 AM (#675235) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Peter Kasin What Carol, Kendall, and Bat Goddess said early on in the thread. Carol's second post isn't too shabby, either! :-) |
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24 Mar 02 - 03:59 AM (#675245) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: DMcG Another snippet from 'When Adam was first created' from the Copper Family:
She was not taken out of his head, Sir (I reckon it breaks down in the last couplet, but I have always interpreted that final 'man' as the combined man-and-woman implied by the line before and 'the top of the tree' as meaning 'cannot be bettered'. Of course, it probably is supposed to mean that after marriage, the man rules. Ho-hum)
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24 Mar 02 - 07:21 PM (#675588) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Irish sergeant Hi hesperis! How's the book going? I'm waiting to hear more of the adventures of all involved especially Aidan the Wanderer Neil |
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24 Mar 02 - 09:51 PM (#675659) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Celtic Soul LOL! I love this place, even the trolling is amusing... Well, for me, anyones place is wherever they make it (regardless of gender), so long as it does not involve destroying others lives in the process of getting there. Happiness is found internally, not externally. When you have that, then you can find the right person to fill that place at your side. Before that, and you are looking for a bandaid for the hurt...not a partner to share life with.
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25 Mar 02 - 12:33 AM (#675730) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: rea a man's proper place is with those he loves - be they his children, lover (male or female, we seem to be neglecting that), or just the animals who make his home less lonely. not that this is always possible, but it seems to be where many of them (and us women) would like to be. |
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25 Mar 02 - 11:54 PM (#676329) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: GUEST a man has no love, that is the provedence of a woman. |
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26 Mar 02 - 11:07 PM (#677117) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Little Hawk So...you're saying that Jesus had no love? - LH |
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02 Apr 02 - 08:31 PM (#681932) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: GUEST it is a given that within coitus the most universal style is with the man positioned above therefore the guest is probably correct the woman below the man above |
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03 Apr 02 - 12:16 AM (#682050) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Robin2 C'mon ladies, where would we be without the guys? They know they are special, and we know it too.
Robin
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03 Apr 02 - 12:25 PM (#682092) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos As the old saying goes: Men are from Earth; women are from Earth; get used to it!! Love those Mudcat ladies one and all, and how could we not? A |
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03 Apr 02 - 12:54 PM (#682113) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Midchuck Here's an offset to "The Rules" as posted way back there. Stereotypes both sexes unfairly, but I found it funny. Doubtless many here will not. What the hell: WHAT WOMEN NEED TO KNOW: 1. Learn to work the toilet seat. You're a big girl. If it's up, put it down. 1. Birthdays, Valentines, and Anniversaries are not quests to see if we can find the perfect present yet again! 1. Sometimes, we are not thinking about you. Live with it. 1. Do not ask us what we are thinking about unless you are prepared to discuss such topics as sports, sex, and cars. 1. Sunday = sports. It's like the full moon or the changing of the tides. Let it be. 1. Shopping is NOT a sport, and no, we are never going to think of it that way. 1. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely anything you wear is fine. Really. 1. Crying is blackmail. 1. Ask for what you want. Let us be clear on this one: Subtle hints do not work. Strong hints do not work. Obvious hints do not work. Just say it! 1. We don't remember dates. Mark birthdays and anniversaries on a calendar. Remind us frequently beforehand. 1. Most guys own three pairs of shoes - tops. What makes you think we'd be any good at choosing which pair, out of thirty, would look good with your dress? 1. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question. 1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for. 1. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor. 1. Check your oil! Please. 1. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument. In fact, all comments become null and void after 7 days. 1. If you won't dress like the Victoria's Secret girls, don't expect us to act like soap opera guys. 1. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, we meant the other one. 1. Let us ogle. We are going to look anyway; it's genetic. 1. You can either ask us to do something or tell us how you want it done - not both. If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself. 1. Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say during commercials. 1. Christopher Columbus did not need directions, and neither do we. 1. The relationship is never going to be like it was the first two months we were going out. Get over it. And quit whining to your girlfriends. 1. ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings. Peach, for example, is a fruit, not a color. Pumpkin is also a fruit. We have no idea what mauve is. 1. If it itches, it will be scratched. We do that. 1. We are not mind readers and we never will be. Our lack of mind-reading ability is not proof of how little we care about you. 1. If we ask what is wrong and you say "nothing," we will act like nothing's wrong. We know you are lying, but it is just not worth the hassle. |
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03 Apr 02 - 12:56 PM (#682118) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Amos I especially like #1, Peter! :>) A |
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04 Apr 02 - 01:05 PM (#682911) Subject: RE: BS: Men in their 'proper places' From: Little Hawk Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Hee! Hee! Hee! (*gasp*) Har! Har! Oh, my god, that is so classic... Only Blind DRunk in Blind River could add anything much to improve on that list. - LH |