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11 Mar 02 - 10:31 PM (#667425) Subject: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: catspaw49 Okay folks.....Bear with me here a minute and all will be made clear........First, many of you remember the great Cornbread Recipe thread we ran just a short while back and all the great recipes on it. This is the thread. Some of you noticed I was gone for a week or so and checked with my friend kat to see what was up. I asked her to keep it off the 'Cat but to let those who asked know that I was in the hospital AGAIN! Geeziz, it gets embarassing after awhile because I'm not in bad shape, look healthy and all that, it's just that this bizarre stuff keeps happening to me! I wasn't going to post this thread except for another of those strange things that occur around here. Yep, another dumbass thing happens to me. Every once in awhile over the past two years I've had gas cramps...last about 2-3 days and go away. Gawd knows I'm never constipated or anything (generally far from it!) but this last time about 3 weeks ago, the cramping just kept hanging on and getting worse until last Friday (3/1/02) I was in excruciating pain and had started running a fever. Infections can kill the new heart valve so I figured it was time to go to the ER. Actually it was well past the time and by the time I got there I was hitting toxic shock as my own body decided to attack me.....again. Diverticulitis. It had turned into an immflammatory mass and after assorted tests and heavy antibiotics, I started to come out of it. Now I feel fantastic, don't look or feel sick and in fact I'm doing great....9 loads of wash yesterday, meals, dishes, took the kids to the mall, went bowling for a few hours today......feeling fine now. The Infectious Disease Doc and I are getting way too close! After the cellulitis in August and now this........But, no damage to the mitral valve and now we need to decide whether this is controllable with diet or whether I'll need to have surgery. We'll know more in a few weeks. But once again, the dumb shit seems to happen to me, but like the "Cat" I am, I seem to have at least 9 lives! Remember after the fire that Richard Pryor had a few different stories as to what happened? Anyway, one of them was really funny and as I lay there in the ER it came to me. Richard said, "All these people freebasing and did you ever hear of anybody blowing up? 10 million motherfuckers freebasing and I blow up! Why me?"............That's about it. 10 million assholes with Diverticular disease and I blow up!!! OR SO I THOUGHT UNTIL I RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING FROM ANOTHER 'CATTER WHO HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF MY SITUATION!!!................ Thanks to your wonderful cornbread recipe...the one with the creamed corn, peppers, cheese etc ....I ended up in the hospital for 10 days! I'll explain... I've had a very delicate "digester" for a number of years. Every Dr. that I went to would put me on anti-spasm drugs and send me on my way saying that I had irritable bowel syndrom and not to worry. After eating all that wonderful cornbread, I was in such agony that I passed out. My girls got me to hospital . They determined that I had a massive peritonial infection and put me on the anti-anthrax drug for 10 days. My colon had absessed and perforated. After several tests they were able to see that a large portion of my colon is very badly diseased and has to be removed. It seems I have been suffering from diverticulosis for years and didn't know it. The Dr. feels fairly confident that he can do a resection with out doing a colostomy . So to make a long story short ... I just want to thank you sincerely for your recipe and to let you know that Mudcat literally saved my life. I was on the brink so to speak and they we're able to fix me up enough that I will be healthy enough for my surgery in a couple of weeks. I wanted to start a thread about this but thought better of it ... I'd be the "butt of shitty jokes" so to speak ... perfect flame material! Just wanted to tell you about another "Mudcat Miracle"! ********************************************************************** Now how's that for a strange coincidence???? I called her and told her the story and we both cracked up (so to speak).......We were in the hospital at the same time 2000 miles apart with the same problem and it was something neither of us had even thought about having before. If the 'Catter in question doesn't want to check in here it's fine, as I do respect her privacy too.....But the weird synchronicity of the 'Cat is often so bizarre that I thought you'd enjoy the tale and have a laugh or two over it! Spaw |
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11 Mar 02 - 10:39 PM (#667430) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: khandu Eerie, yes, eerie! Glad you are back, my buddy. Glad you did not explode with some gastronomical malady. Ohio would never be the same! khandu |
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11 Mar 02 - 10:42 PM (#667434) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: michaelr Great story, Spaw! Synchronicity is indeed a mindblower at times. As I was reading the beginning of your post I thought, "Maybe he should stop drinking milk" - but the diagnosis said diverticu -litis? -losis? A friend of mine has the same thing but I'm not really sure what it is. Anyway, I've been enjoying your posts here for a while (I've been a member less than six months, so I guess I'm still a newbie), and my thoughts and best wishes go out to you and the unnamed member you're quoting. But I'll think twice about trying any of those cornbread recipes... Cheers, Michael |
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11 Mar 02 - 10:44 PM (#667437) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Sorcha NO! It's the Twilight Zone around this place anymore. I may have to find a new local........ Friends and Folks, I think Spaw is just trying to support the entire Ohio medical industry all alone. |
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11 Mar 02 - 10:55 PM (#667445) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Sorcha ..."losis" is the disease. ..."itis" is a major flare up. Diverticular is pockets in the gut where foods hang up and then cause infection. Usually hard things or chunky things like nuts & corn are what causes the problems. |
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11 Mar 02 - 11:03 PM (#667450) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: little john cameron Synchronincity my arse.You and me have the same problem,anxiety attacks.The answer is Ranitdine(Zantac)for the gas and or Zoloft for the strange stuff that magnifies it.Hosest pal, i went through torture.The pain was worse than the aneurysm. john |
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11 Mar 02 - 11:13 PM (#667458) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: catspaw49 Yeah Sorch, you got it. Although the nuts and corn thing is coming under scrutiny as having less to do with it than they previously thought. In the main, the disease of Diverticulosis is brought on by low fiber diets and so is virtually unknown in Africa and China. In the US it is still on the rise and as one Doc said to me, "Like gray hair and wrinkles, if you live long enough here you will eventually have it." Since about age 35, I've eaten a pretty high fiber diet but before that I ate well, but certainly not high fiber. Constipation and bloating, often symptoms of the syndrome, are problems I've never had!!! It does seem that many have this but no one talks much about it and it's often misdiagnosed as happened in the case of the other 'Catter for many years. Michael, thanks for your thoughts and I've enjoyed your posts since you came on board. Spaw |
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12 Mar 02 - 12:55 AM (#667489) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: katlaughing Geez, Spaw, glad ya came clean, so to speak; even did it without spreading the litter too much!**BG** I am going to shut down my "ping-receptors!" Between Aine's back, your gut, and a couple of others, my sensitivity's been picking up things overtime. LOL....seriously, so grateful that you ARE better and doing okay and the udder Mudder, too! Like Karen, or was it Connie, said, you just had to go to med school after 50, the hard way, huh? By now, I think you've earned that degree several times over! Keep us posted, okay? luvyabunches...kat |
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12 Mar 02 - 01:04 AM (#667490) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Murray MacLeod Spaw, I believe that DIY enema kits can be purchased on the net for relatively little. I have never felt the need to experiment personally, but I do know that in Victorian England the procedure was extremely popular. Maybe now is the time for you to try it out. Who knows, you might even get to enjoy it. If it was good enough for Queen Victoria .... Murray |
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12 Mar 02 - 01:06 AM (#667492) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: katlaughing Or perhaps a High Colonic? **BG** |
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12 Mar 02 - 01:19 AM (#667495) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: harpgirl ...like I said Pat, we knew you were full of shit but we didn't expect it to become a health problem! |
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12 Mar 02 - 01:28 AM (#667497) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Stilly River Sage So, perhaps we need to run a thread with a collection of bland, high fibre recipes? Anyone have one for boiled okra to start it off? (big grin!!) Cornbread as diagnostic tool--it's another one for the medical journals, eh? SRS |
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12 Mar 02 - 04:34 AM (#667514) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Giac Nine loads of clothes ? ? ? ? Oh, wait, I forgot about Cletus, Paw and the Reg boys. I guess even the overhauls from "Big Cracker Bubba's Bibs" need to be washed sometimes. Glad you're okay. Mary |
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12 Mar 02 - 04:34 AM (#667515) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: katlaughing No, no...**BG** for Spaw, right now, it has to be low residue all of the bad, refined stuff with no ruffage at all...even *gasp* white bread, white rice! LOL!! |
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12 Mar 02 - 05:35 AM (#667532) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: gnu Thanks for finally telling us. When I enquired as to your abscence and said that I hoped it wasn't anything serious, I wasn't joking. I think most of us knew something was up. Next time, you should tell us when your going to have an "itis" so we can be ready with the puns and such. As far as silence due to embarassment, well, geeziz, you oughta know better than that. Just glad you're OK. |
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12 Mar 02 - 11:20 AM (#667656) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Big Mick You piece of shit! Next time you don't let us know what is up I am driving down to AAhhhhhayuh and kicking whatever dreck they didn't get, clean out of you! I tried calling but the phone is busy constantly. You don't call..........you don't write...........you just go off and damn near die of an overload of shite..........I would have thought that was impossible with as much of it as you spread around here............LOL. Mick |
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12 Mar 02 - 11:30 AM (#667666) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: MMario What Mick said! *sob* And I found out on another message board! oh the shame!
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12 Mar 02 - 11:34 AM (#667669) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Mary in Kentucky Have you heard about my cornbread recipe with jalepenos? Good to hear from you. I missed you too. Mary (who is now older than you!) |
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12 Mar 02 - 11:40 AM (#667671) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: GUEST,ghost Well just what can a person eat nowadays that ain't gonna git ya in the end, so to speak?
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12 Mar 02 - 11:45 AM (#667674) Subject: Lyr Add: SOME LITTLE BUG IS GOING TO FIND YOU From: GUEST,ghost According to this Bert Williams song there ain't much that one can consume and not expect to reap a whirlwind of woe. SOME LITTLE BUG
In these days of indigestion it is oftentimes a question
CHO: For some little bug is going to get you someday.
The inviting green cucumber, it's most everybody's number
For some little bug is going to get you someday.
When cold storage vaults I visit, I can only say, "What is it
Those crazy foods they fix, they'll float us 'cross the River Styx
For some little bug is going to get you someday.
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12 Mar 02 - 12:23 PM (#667708) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Jeri Mick wrote the chorus: "You don't call, You don't write You just go off and damn near die Of an overload of shite" And me, stealing from ghost: (great song, BTW) When nature calls, it's peristalsis Makes things go, it's "sphincter - ho!" my friend But some things, alas, just will not pass And ya know they're gonna get you in the end |
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12 Mar 02 - 12:30 PM (#667716) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Big Mick LOL.............we have got to get you out more often, Jeri...........ROFLMAO |
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12 Mar 02 - 12:46 PM (#667719) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Fortunato Well, that sounds serious, 'Spaw, diverassholitis is nothing to screw around with. A diverted asshole can be a pain in the ass, or worse. Sort of like when a river changes course. Where did this new aperture appear? Above or below the waste, uh, waist? Or is it that a previously owned orfice becomes reprogramed to produce poo? Like your ear? How would that affect your hearing? Your social life. These are indeed serious questions. And we want answers to these questions, don't we Mudcatters! We want to know to where 'spaw's effluviam has been diverted. If only for self-protection. Is projectile pooping a concertn. Just where is your asshole, Mister? Some will want evidence, possibly photographs with circles and arrows explaining location and dimensions. Personally I will take your word for it. Oh. And I hope you get better real soon. Chance |
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12 Mar 02 - 01:07 PM (#667725) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: GUEST,ghost ....and I'd like to see a paragraph on th' back o' each one of them pictures....You ain't been hanging around any 50 foot cliffs with big piles of garbage at the bottom, have ya kyid? |
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12 Mar 02 - 02:41 PM (#667762) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Rick Fielding Holy Keerist Spaw...Thank God my thread was only about CORNBREAD (I've tried about nine of the recipes by now, folks), I'd hate to have started the recent VINDALOO one! You might have blown up the whole town! Cheers Rick |
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12 Mar 02 - 03:23 PM (#667793) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Jeri Just thought I'd mention this. I had an x-ray recently in a VA hospital. On the wall, was the required staff photo. They all held silver cups and had white mustaches. Caption read "Got Barium?" I know it's the wrong end and all, but it was funny. Barium? Hell, no - blew 'em away! |
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12 Mar 02 - 03:38 PM (#667801) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Lyrical Lady Hopefully, it's safe to jump in here now. Maybe the "shitty jokes" are over and done with! Besides, I can't let Spaw shoulder all the responsibility for informing you lot of the nastiness of diverticulitis. Yes, tis I, the "Udder Mudder" of which Spaw speaks. Feeling better now, just waiting for my surgery date. I knew for years that something was wrong...I chose to ignore it.... big mistake. Please everyone, listen to your bodies. Get "scoped" .... it may not be pleasant but it sure as hell beats the alternative! Having rot gut is shitty business ... especially if you have to have a colostomy bag. Please pay attention folks ... and take care. LL |
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12 Mar 02 - 04:26 PM (#667839) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: catspaw49 I'm sorry group that I chose to leave this off the 'Cat, but for the love of God, it just seems that everytime I turn around there's another thread about Spaw being in the hospital....and I swear to you, I'm not that unhealthy!!! I appreciate your kind words and I always know I have so many great friends behind me......Wait, make that "supporting me." And Lyrical Lady, I'm glad you decided to check in here because as you and I discussed the other day, this does seem to be one of those "unspoken" diseases. And of course there are a lot of folks here who will be wanting to keep you in their thoughts as the surgery comes up. LL and I really did have a good laugh over this, but the disease itself is no laughing matter as you can wind up dead all too quickly, even with the best of antibiotic care. In some cases the only option left is a colostomy and though you can live quite succesfully with one, it's not the way anyone would really want to go if there is an option. In this case, the best cure is often surgery to remove the problem section of bowel. So do yourselves a favor and when you have "gas pains" that last more than a few days, get checked!! Spaw |
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12 Mar 02 - 05:01 PM (#667855) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: hesperis Glad to hear that you BOTH are doing better! *hugs* |
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12 Mar 02 - 05:19 PM (#667860) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: SharonA Um... I don't think you were supposed to use habanero peppers in that recipe... Seriously, though, Catspaw, I'm glad to hear that things turned out okay, with no damage to that mitral valve. And Lyrical Lady, I'm glad to hear that a colostomy doesn't appear to be necessary (though a resection can't be any fun). As a person who's had colon problems for the last 25 years or so – since I was 21 (ulcerative colitis plus a couple of pre-cancerous polyps removed a couple of years ago) – I'll reiterate the advice given here: pay attention to your bowel and GET IT CHECKED!!! If you get a problem treated and you know something's still not right, be more aggressive about getting to the bottom of it (if you'll pardon the expression!). Sharon (sans colostomy bag... so far!!) |
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12 Mar 02 - 05:27 PM (#667864) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Jeri PermaThread, Spaw. I was making light of the whole thing because...well, because Spaw started it. Or you did, with the information about the cornbread. And you two have made it through, and I'm very GLAD about that. My mom had diverticulitis and had a chunk of colon removed. I was with her after surgery and tried to get her to wake up. I'm not sure she even know where she was, but she had enough sense to mutter something like "I don't think I want to wake up right now." You should have heard her talking about the pillow. As much pain as she was in, I think and her sense of humor kicked in because she was so relieved to be on the other side of the trauma. She had a few choice words about the diet, too. I'm glad you two are on the mend. As for me, I should probably learn to enjoy shots of Metamucil. (You lick the oat bran, drink the shot, then suck on a prune.)
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12 Mar 02 - 05:33 PM (#667868) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: SharonA Jeri (re Metamucil shots): LOL!!! |
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12 Mar 02 - 05:42 PM (#667876) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Bill D ...personally, I think it was the Marmite..(or the lack thereof)....some things you have to do everyday or not at all.. what's next, Recaltnerant plebny? (a horrible thing!) |
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12 Mar 02 - 05:50 PM (#667878) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: harpgirl ...so how many of your nine lives do you figure you have left, Pat? |
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12 Mar 02 - 06:58 PM (#667924) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Dharmabum I've got a neighbor that suffers with it. It can be some serious shit. (scuse the pun) Glad you're OK Spaw,nice to have you back. DB. L.L. good luck with the surgery |
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12 Mar 02 - 07:35 PM (#667949) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: JenEllen I just figured our Pat is filling in his punch card (10 ER visits and the 11th is FREE!) LMAO Jeri...Metamucil shots...Worse comes to worst, I figured the Metamucil would make great traction in Jello. You lose the slip and slide, and the ring around the tub would be hell to clean off, but my-o-my is we reg'lar. |
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12 Mar 02 - 09:35 PM (#668021) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: GUEST,John Gray Bloody hell, and I've just about got all the ingredients to make a batch of this corn bread - and in the process discovered that we do have buttermilk here in Oz. Maybe I can give a loaf to one of the ex-wives to see if they explode first. How about the US govt. airdropping thousands of loaves on the Taliban, much cheaper than smart bombs. Could be biological warfare though by the sound of it. JG/FME |
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13 Mar 02 - 01:33 AM (#668113) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Stilly River Sage Spaw, others, look into some of the work Barry Sears has done on diet and disease. His Zone diet books make a lot of sense. We wouldn't put just any medicine into our mouths without knowing what it is for or what the side effects are, yet we eat food (especially the processed stuff) without any thought to what it does to our bodies. Insulin, carbohydrates, fruits and veggies, protein, they're all subjects we should know more about. SRS |
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13 Mar 02 - 03:17 AM (#668143) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Little Hawk Well, by gosh, I just found out about this, and I'm glad you weathered the storm, Spaw. Your absence allowed me to jump on the "Asthore" thread before you got the chance, and then I knew something must be up... :-) - LH |
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13 Mar 02 - 08:11 AM (#668230) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: kendall I'm just sitting here picturing this gang in the old folks home many years from now, hurling insults, making jokes and all. HHmm might be worth waiting for. |
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13 Mar 02 - 02:04 PM (#668450) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: catspaw49 Of course it is Kendall.....And somewhere around here we have a thread with a relly hilarious scenario written by Rick and Peter and added onto by others about a day in the life of the Mudcat Retirement Village.....I gotta' go look for that sucker. Spaw |
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13 Mar 02 - 03:18 PM (#668492) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Lepus Rex Gee, thanks, Spaw. I didn't think it could be done, but your thread has managed to put me off corn bread. I'll never be able to look at it again, without thinking of your intestines. >:( (Oh, and glad toi hear you and your valve are still movng. Good luck.) ---Lepus Rex |
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13 Mar 02 - 03:25 PM (#668494) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: katlaughing Here ya go, Spaw....the relevant Rick posting followed by many others. Still one of my all-time fav. threads and still in my dreams! Lyrical Lady, please keep in touch and let us know how things go for you. Good wishes and thoughts for you and the surgery. kat |
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13 Mar 02 - 11:55 PM (#668794) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: catspaw49 Ahhhhh....Bless you katmyluv......I don't know why I couldn't find it, but I'm going to tag it so I can occasionally revisit....cute thread. Spaw |
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14 Mar 02 - 07:05 PM (#669432) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Art Thieme Pat-----I've been gone mostly too lately. I'm so glad you are doing better. My wish is, for all of us, to be doing better !!! God knows, we could use some of that here. Art |
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14 Mar 02 - 09:31 PM (#669505) Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread&theWeirdSynchronicity ofMudcat From: Áine Hey there, you saggy-assed tortoise! ;-) Geez, are you trying to upstage my bad back with this lil' episode, or what? (hahaha) And this cornbread thing -- while I've been 'off me pegs', Dear Hubby has learned to cook (. . . insert group gasp here . . .) and his best dish so far is cornbread. Is the Higher Power(s) trying to tell me something? Amos told me that he sent you a soundfile of the song he and I wrote for you awhile back, It's In His Heart to aid in your most recent recovery -- I suggested that we do a rewrite, but he poo-pooed the idea of sending you a song called It's In His Ass. I love you, ya old buggah. Do what those quacks tell you to do, we all need you more than you know. Hugs and snogs (yeah, even on that old saggy tortoise ass of yours), Áine |