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19 Mar 02 - 06:08 PM (#672191) Subject: USA What are the chances? From: GUEST,Folkies from UK What are the chances of an unknown UK duet touring the folk clubs in the States or part thereof, singing contemporary, and a little traditional folk songs from this side of the pond. We have three kids-14yr old girl, 9yr old boy and an 18yr old girl that plays appalachian fiddle. We'd like to come and make friends on the way! Who cares about school, let's get out and have some fun for a while! |
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19 Mar 02 - 06:22 PM (#672206) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: SharonA I'm not sure how the truancy laws in the US apply to children who are "on tour" as you describe, but I think it would be wise to check into them before you get yourself into any kind of legal trouble for not having the children in school. |
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19 Mar 02 - 06:31 PM (#672209) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) For how long? Doubt that the rules allow you to play for money. |
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19 Mar 02 - 06:33 PM (#672211) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Morticia I do know the truancy laws.....and it's three weeks max unless you can prove some cultural need (such as visiting your 'homeland'). Check it out with the headteacher or you could find your kids without a school place when you return,especially if it's a popular school. |
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19 Mar 02 - 07:02 PM (#672230) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Celtic Soul Absolutely, you *could* play for money. Plenty of people tour overseas and get paid for it. But, you'd need to do the legal legwork to find out what is involved, and it would be a good idea for you to line up your gigs *before* you got stateside. In many areas, you could busk without going through all the hassle of having to get a permit, or having to go through the hassle of contacting pubs/events/venues or legal permission to work in a Country with which you are not familiar. I imagine some of this hinges on how good you are as well. If you could send a demo tape or the like to an agent in the US, and let *him* handle the legalities and logistical crap, that might save you some headaches, but I suppose that would depend on how much the rep thinks he could get for getting you gigs and publicising you. If the answer is that it would be questionable, then likely as not, the answer would be "sorry, all booked up with clients right now". Good luck with the journey...it sounds like an interesting trip, if you can make it happen.
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19 Mar 02 - 07:41 PM (#672252) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) In my city, you must register to busk, and the permits are few. Clubs will not accept non-union musicians except on amateur nights, which no longer exist here. |
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19 Mar 02 - 10:29 PM (#672335) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: michaelr Dang, Dicho, where do you live? I've been playing here in California since 1985, and no one ever asked me if I was in the union. Michael |
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19 Mar 02 - 10:55 PM (#672346) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Maryrrf I've never been asked if I was in a union, either. I'm in Virginia. In what states do you have to be a member of a union to play? |
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19 Mar 02 - 11:31 PM (#672371) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Canada. I've been told this by performers who want to play at the better spots. Haven't looked into it myself, so I may have been mislead. |
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20 Mar 02 - 01:08 AM (#672411) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Sorcha In the US, at least, a parent or legal gaurdian must be present for under 21 yr olds to play in a bar/pub. In some states, even then not. Alchohol/licensing laws in the States are very weird.....they vary from state to state and even from town to town. Get an exact itinerary and then ask each town. Bars/Pubs are almost always the best places to book gigs for money--either up front or for a "tip jar". |
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20 Mar 02 - 08:56 AM (#672525) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: MMario you also run into restrictions - I beleive currently that 14 year olds would not be allowed to work more then three hours a night; no working after 10 pm and I believe would be restricted to a total of 18 hours a week. Again - different laws for different states - |
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20 Mar 02 - 09:27 AM (#672547) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: jeffp And frequently there are exceptions for family-owned businesses. I suppose a family band might qualify? |
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20 Mar 02 - 10:00 AM (#672567) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: JedMarum It'll take a lot of organization - may be best to start with a good agent. You'll also have to resolve the 'right to work' issues - I rarely work a location that doesn't take all the tax information before they pay me ... and in many cases every time they pay me. |
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20 Mar 02 - 10:34 AM (#672590) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Bobert In the area of the country where I live, a lot of kids are "home schooled". If the UK has such a program, then maybe you could "home school" them while on the road, thereby addressing issues on both sides of the pond. You can purchase the independent study workbooks to carry around with you in case anyone bothers you. |
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20 Mar 02 - 11:19 AM (#672622) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: SharonA I don't know about that, Bobert... they'd be home-schooled by someone who just said, "Who cares about school"! *G* |
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20 Mar 02 - 11:33 AM (#672638) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Bobert Hmmmmmm, SharonA. Ya' got a point there. But my son and his mother don't care about school either and he was home schooled for several months, even though his mother wasn't even at home. He had his "independent study" books there just in case someone checked on him. But I know what you mean... there would be a certain irony, indeed... But it would keep the beaurocrats of 'em. |
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20 Mar 02 - 11:34 AM (#672641) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: MMario |
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20 Mar 02 - 11:47 AM (#672649) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: lardingo Silver Dollar City, Near Branson, Missouri has festivals all the time in which crafts and music from foreign countries are celebrated. Often children are among the performers. It's been a long time since I performed there, so I don't the procedures for tryouts, etc., but you could look them up on the web and find out. I would say, however, that in SDC's case, the performers have long since been selected for this season. |
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20 Mar 02 - 12:13 PM (#672666) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: pattyClink What about putting together a little circuit of slots in small festivals on several consecutive weekends during the summer? You could then fill in impromptu in local spots once you met some locals. |
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20 Mar 02 - 01:08 PM (#672701) Subject: RE: USA What are the chances? From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) I asked my son-in-law who plays gigs with a bluegrass band (he is a consulting engineer by day) what the rules are. He said it "depends." Many musicians will not play with non-union players. Many clubs are only open to hiring union musicians. Work for any event covered or hosted by the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp., a government network) requires a union ticket. You can usually play in rural areas without a ticket, but members of his group have tickets to avoid problems. No one under the age of 18 (must have ident. card) is allowed in any public venue where liquor is served. Busking in Calgary is by city approval only. |