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16 Apr 02 - 11:26 PM (#691764) Subject: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Now that the "Eternal Questions" thread seems to be close to unraveling let's try a new one -- oxymorons. I'll start by getting jumbo shrimp and military intelligence out of the way. Ther is one which I wanted to mention that even George Carlin forgot -- civil war. Is there anything we do that requires less civility? |
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16 Apr 02 - 11:42 PM (#691774) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Amos My widely distributed software development team has been handed a new one by its highermanagement, a thinly disguised effort to justify continuous coping and not doing an orderly and methodical job of development according to best practices. it's called "Just-In-Time Engineering". It's not only an insult to "just-in-time" supply chain management, which can be a reasonable practice, but it is also an insult to good engineers! A |
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16 Apr 02 - 11:47 PM (#691777) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Pete Jennings Honest politicians. Music critics. Pete |
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16 Apr 02 - 11:52 PM (#691781) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Anahootz "live recording" "virtual reality" two of my faves oh yeah, and..."airline food" |
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16 Apr 02 - 11:58 PM (#691783) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Troll "rap music" troll |
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17 Apr 02 - 12:32 AM (#691800) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wincing Devil
Tame cat! |
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17 Apr 02 - 01:00 AM (#691805) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Sorcha Shrimp Scampi Non Working Mom Fixed Pitch Instrument (I know I'll think of more.........) |
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17 Apr 02 - 03:16 AM (#691842) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,jonm What about... Microsoft Works |
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17 Apr 02 - 03:20 AM (#691844) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: MudGuard liquid gas keeping animals in their natural |
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17 Apr 02 - 03:44 AM (#691845) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Mature student Bitter sweet Quiet music Military Intelligence Cruel kindness Black light |
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17 Apr 02 - 04:21 AM (#691854) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Trevor Permanent travellers' site Child psychologist Given freedom |
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17 Apr 02 - 04:35 AM (#691862) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wolfgang "I write folksongs" for some of the posters here the following is a single word oxymoron: Psychology Wolfgang |
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17 Apr 02 - 04:40 AM (#691866) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Hrothgar Intelligent drummer.
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17 Apr 02 - 04:43 AM (#691868) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Artificial Fur Genuine reproduction Unique example |
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17 Apr 02 - 04:53 AM (#691871) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: greg stephens Friendly fire. (though that may be unfair, it might be military black humour, irony or euphemism rather than oxymoron. It could be we need a "what do we mean by oxymoron" thread) |
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17 Apr 02 - 05:10 AM (#691876) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Main Entry: ox.y.mo.ron Pronunciation: "äk-si-'mOr-"än, -'mor- Function: noun Etymology: Late Greek oxymOron, from neuter of oxymOros pointedly foolish, from Greek oxys sharp, keen + mOros foolish Date: 1657 Inflected Form(s): plural ox.y.mo.ra /-'mOr-&, -'mor-/ : a combination of contradictory or incongruous words (as cruel kindness) - ox.y.mo.ron.ic /-m&-'r@-nik, -mo-/ adjective - ox.y.mo.ron.i.cal.ly /-ni-k(&-)lE/ adverb
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17 Apr 02 - 05:11 AM (#691879) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons From the dictionary definition I posted above, should the thread title be "Oxymora" ? |
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17 Apr 02 - 05:20 AM (#691884) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: MudGuard got another one: tasty haggis (is that Scottish stuff spelled this way?) |
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17 Apr 02 - 05:25 AM (#691886) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: greg stephens Thanks for clarification Nigel. My point is: what is "friendly fire"? Is it oxymoron (combination of contradictory or incongruous words); irony (intended meaning is the opposite of that of the words used); or euphemism (substitution of mild or innocuous wordfor more harsh or offensive term)? Or some combination of all three? |
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17 Apr 02 - 06:11 AM (#691900) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: bill\sables McDonalds Restaurant |
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17 Apr 02 - 06:51 AM (#691917) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Greg: I think for once (maybe I should rephrase that clause!). On this occasion I believe (that's better) the British Politicians have exactly the apposite phrase! "Friendly Fire" comes under the heading of "Weasel Words" (a form of euphamism used by politicians deliberately to mislead, or to evade the point) |
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17 Apr 02 - 07:13 AM (#691930) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Amos -- I agree Wincing Devil -- applause for "Tame Cat" Nigel Parsons -- plural noted. I'll know next time. GUEST,jonm -- YES!!!!! Greg Stephens -- I suspect that "friendly fire" probably started its life as a eupemism created by those in command and, as frequently happens when leaders are being espcially silly, was turned into ironic humor by those being commanded. Stephen |
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17 Apr 02 - 07:28 AM (#691936) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: greg stephens This might be a thread where i could find the answer to a question that has often come up: is it true that Americans don't use, and therefore don't understand, ironic humour? It is popularly supposed that if you say to an American "Brutus is an honourable man" or "Streets of London is a wonderful and very moving song" they will take the comment to be a statement of your opinion. Can anyone help? |
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17 Apr 02 - 08:56 AM (#691995) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Amos Friendly fire means rounds of ammo INADVERTENTLY being directed at you by those on your side or an allied side. It is not a euphemism, and it is not contradictory, but it does sound like a combination of incongruous words, which therefore qualifies it as an oxymorin anyway. A |
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17 Apr 02 - 09:05 AM (#692004) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: greg stephens I disagree amos.it is contradictory, because "friendly" has connotations quite the reverse ofthe feelings you get from a bullet up your jacksie. And it is a euphemism I think, because it was a circumlocution by PR people who didnt like saying "we've bombed our boys by mistake". And is certainly ironic, if the phrase is used byits recipients. So all in all i think it qualifies as all three figures of speech and gets some sort of prize. |
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17 Apr 02 - 09:12 AM (#692013) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Guessed MudGuard isn't liquid gas sublime (***B tech G ****) greg stevens - are you ernest or ironest? can I offer Manage Meant? |
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17 Apr 02 - 09:18 AM (#692020) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Rich_and_Dee Oxymoron: Gourmet buffet
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17 Apr 02 - 09:34 AM (#692038) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Pseudolus I thought an oxymoron was someone who didn't know how to use those acne pads (oxy pads).... And to appease the folks who think all conversations here should be about music, my oxymoron contribution is.....MUSIC THREAD!
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17 Apr 02 - 09:35 AM (#692042) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wilfried Schaum Oldest oxymoron I know is glykypikron = "bitter-sweet", as said of love by the poetress Sappho about the beginning of the 6th century B.C.
A fine translation by J. Addington Symonds, 1883: In friendly fire I can see no oxymoron; friendly here only designates an origin and no intention. In the tis man's Army it is well known that artillerists don't distinguish between friend or foe; the bloody bangheads only know interesting targets. A long range hit at a friendly officers latrine they consider as a ballistic masterpiece, too. Not so funny is the intelligent drummer. I only agree if you except me personally.
And now to Greg: There are certain hints at the use of ironic humour in the U.S. of A. Even the British Library shows six entries of this excellent and entertaining work: Wilfried |
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17 Apr 02 - 09:57 AM (#692063) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: John MacKenzie While we're on books "The quiet American"? DARFC |
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17 Apr 02 - 10:04 AM (#692074) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Guessed American Irony? never the Twain? AND what about Ambrose Bierce? What was his take on irony? I have the whole text from the Guttenberg Project - I will go see. I wish I could remember their URL but it won't be hard to find. methinks a can of worms is wriggling free here. "Ire ON" - folks. |
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17 Apr 02 - 11:01 AM (#692126) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: artbrooks As a former field artilleryman, I can comment on "friendly fire" from a different perspective. It wasn't invented by a PR flac, rather its a technical (well, not very) term that's been around at least since WWII. It refers to artillery rounds (shells, if you prefer) fired ("fire") by our side ("friendly")that hit something other than the intended target. This can be because of mislocation of the target or of the guns, changing weather conditions, mathmatical error, or because either the good guys weren't where they were supposed to be or the artillery didn't know where they were. |
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17 Apr 02 - 11:31 AM (#692148) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Greg F. (remote computer) Creation science. |
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17 Apr 02 - 12:15 PM (#692198) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: kendall A good Rose' attractive linoleum Legally drunk Reagan's memoirs Compassionate conservative Cherry Tart. Rush hour |
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17 Apr 02 - 12:19 PM (#692209) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: wysiwyg Agitating for peace. ~S~ |
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17 Apr 02 - 05:18 PM (#692347) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Dagenham Doc I love rush hour!! How about stiff upper lip Doc. |
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17 Apr 02 - 06:16 PM (#692391) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: 8_Pints How about: "Industrial action" "Pretty awful" "Management perspective" Bob vG |
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17 Apr 02 - 06:45 PM (#692402) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Uncle_DaveO I have to disagree that bitter-sweet is an oxymoron. "Bitter" and "Sweet" are NOT opposites, but the names of a couple of the battery of taste sensations that make up flavor. Something CAN be both bitter and sweet, and maybe sour or salty, etc., at the same time. Dave Oesterreich |
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17 Apr 02 - 07:11 PM (#692422) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: kendall Government assistance |
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17 Apr 02 - 07:30 PM (#692442) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Jane 2001 Re Americans and irony. I have occasionally noticed that on mudcat where someone has expressed an opinion which is so extreme it must be the opposite of what they actually think and our cousins get terribly upset about it. I think we Brits use irony rather a lot, making a point by taking things to their ultimate ridiculous extreme. I think it is a peculiarly British (English?) form of rhetoric. The continentals don't seem to understand it either and dispise the speaker accordingly. |
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18 Apr 02 - 09:24 AM (#692759) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Snuffy You're right, Jane. Over here "absolutely marvellous" would be a highly damning verdict, whereas "not totally unpleasant" could be high praise indeed. WassaiL! V |
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18 Apr 02 - 09:43 AM (#692779) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: JedMarum christian right |
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18 Apr 02 - 09:44 AM (#692780) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: JedMarum I like wolfgang's: folksong writer |
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18 Apr 02 - 09:48 AM (#692785) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: JedMarum celibate priest |
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18 Apr 02 - 09:56 AM (#692794) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,greg stephens yes, i did raise the irony point in all seriousness, it is one of the main souces of incomprehension(and possible anger) in the trans-atlantic conversations we have here. Other examples of incomprehension occur on this thread: I'm sure any british or irish reader reading my posting of "friendly fire" would understand that I knew what friendly fire is, and was discussing the oddness of the juxtaposition of the two words. But two or three posters, who i would guess were american, assumed that I was trying to find out what the words meant and explained them (very slowly and carefully)."Two countries separated by a common language"..who said that? |
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18 Apr 02 - 10:12 AM (#692810) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Hamish Detailed summary and/or in-depth overview |
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18 Apr 02 - 11:41 AM (#692894) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wilfried Schaum Hi Guessed, Project Gutenberg is written with only one "t". The German home page was transferred some days ago, URL is now http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/ No Ambrose Bierce here. But he can be found on the English URL http://promo.net/pg/ Hi Uncle DaveO I may assure you that Sappho when she wrote her poem did not know the Chinese sweet-sour sauces, and bitter and sweet for one and the same thing were supposed contraries, not parts of a range. Otherwise the word oxymoron = sharp witted-dull would be no oxymoron itself, only a part of the wide range of human intellect. Wilfried |
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18 Apr 02 - 11:44 AM (#692896) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Bill D Athletic scholarship freezer burn briefing holy war |
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18 Apr 02 - 11:54 AM (#692904) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Pete Guesstimate? |
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18 Apr 02 - 11:58 AM (#692911) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Dave Bryant Bodhran Music |
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18 Apr 02 - 12:36 PM (#692940) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wolfgang the 'only choice' found missing idiot savant dicorce court (ouch) science fiction and to end on a musical note: soft rock Young Tradition Wolfgang |
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18 Apr 02 - 01:06 PM (#692964) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST Sailboat racing Behavioral science Business ethics |
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18 Apr 02 - 08:15 PM (#693264) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: michaelr Industrial park! In order to determine whetherv a statement is meant ironically or seriously (if it's not OBVIOUSLY one or the other), one must have at least some knowledge of the speaker. That can be difficult when chatting on the web with people in other hemispheres. (Sweeping Generalization Alert:) I think that Americans tend to assume that people mean what they say, unless clued otherwise, while British folks (more skeptical, I guess) assume everyone is "taking a piss". Cheers, Michael |
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18 Apr 02 - 08:20 PM (#693267) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: kendall Some of those sailboats, especially the catamarans will really haul ass. |
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18 Apr 02 - 09:18 PM (#693306) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: DonD Asm an elderly gebtleman with an enlarged prostate, may I ask -- isn't the expression, "taking the piss"? |
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18 Apr 02 - 11:58 PM (#693399) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich I've heard the "divided by a common language" line attributed to George Bernard Shaw and Oscar Wilde. Take your pick. |
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19 Apr 02 - 01:35 AM (#693440) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,DrWord First Annual This one is good ... DrWord@public terminal |
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19 Apr 02 - 04:32 AM (#693501) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Trevor How about 'going round the square'? |
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19 Apr 02 - 05:02 AM (#693517) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Joe in the'pool 'Don't Fire' could this now be interpreted as an oxymoron when heard by American Airforce pilots, when sighting 'Friendly' Canadians (is this another one!) No offence meant to Canadians a very friendly bunch of people.. Joe |
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19 Apr 02 - 05:36 AM (#693529) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Definite probability Full vacuum cleaner Opaque window (of Australia) Island Continent Open secret |
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19 Apr 02 - 05:52 AM (#693537) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Banjer Having read through this thread I am dismayed and saddened that NO ONE has yet listed one of the most obvious music related oxymnorons: Banjo Tuning |
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19 Apr 02 - 08:02 AM (#693605) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: McGrath of Harlow I wonder if "friendly fire" might owe anything to John Betjeman:
"Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough! It isn't fit for humans now..."
And he wasn't exactly being ironic, possibly a bit tongue in cheek, since he didn't actually want the bombs dropped on the place, just wished people would wake up to what they had created, and pull it down and make it better.
Nobody has mentioned "British Justice" which has very often been classed as an oxymoron.
And I think alongside Sorchas's "Non Working Mom" I might put "Women's Liberation."
Or there's Morris Dancing...
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19 Apr 02 - 10:11 AM (#693708) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: SharonA Wise ass 'NSYNC concert Voice mail |
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19 Apr 02 - 10:51 AM (#693737) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Amos Friendly fire is only apparently oxymoronic, when mis-parsed; the adjective "friendly" has a different meaning (side of origin) than the common one (show of affection or alliance). Obviously in the second sense NO fire is friendly. A |
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19 Apr 02 - 11:03 AM (#693747) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: McGrath of Harlow Well, if you were being strictly logical, I suppose you could say that fire directed on the enemy when you were under attack could well be described as friendly.
I don't think a phrase can be "apparently oxymoronic" - the appearance is surely what counts in this kind of phrase.
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19 Apr 02 - 11:18 AM (#693756) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Amos Oh, okay, McGrath -- pardon my arrant pedantry, up with which I will now put where the sun don't shine!! :>)) A |
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19 Apr 02 - 02:16 PM (#693832) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Nerd I think there's plenty of irony in the USA. But then I grew up in New York City, so my experience may not be typical. I do think that people in North America have no very clear idea of what irony is. For example, Alanis Morrisette's song "isn't it ironic?" in fact provides examples of coincidence, not irony. Oxymora: Government worker (or government job) working holiday Home Depot High school senior sophomoric humor |
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19 Apr 02 - 02:22 PM (#693840) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: DMcG There is a nursery rhyme that I can't quite remember which includes the directions
Straight down the crooked road (We start 'em young on oxymrons here)
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19 Apr 02 - 06:42 PM (#694016) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Hrothgar Boxing ring. Literate journalist. |
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19 Apr 02 - 07:10 PM (#694028) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: van lingle This thread is awful good. |
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20 Apr 02 - 06:28 AM (#694226) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons some of those posting here are "pretty ugly" |
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20 Apr 02 - 08:22 AM (#694263) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,emily b Diversified Specialists! This is actually the name of a business here. Emily |
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20 Apr 02 - 08:35 AM (#694268) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: van lingle No offense, Nigel but your assessment seems fairly unjust. *g* |
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20 Apr 02 - 12:35 PM (#694390) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Ebbie New and Improved! |
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20 Apr 02 - 04:10 PM (#694483) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Modern History |
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20 Apr 02 - 04:36 PM (#694494) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy clean dirt english cuisine american justice republican party |
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20 Apr 02 - 08:04 PM (#694575) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: van lingle "President Bush" |
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21 Apr 02 - 08:27 AM (#694799) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Chris Um--casual sex? |
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21 Apr 02 - 01:16 PM (#694931) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Guest,Chris: is that on oxymoron or an offer ? |
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21 Apr 02 - 04:15 PM (#695020) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Peter from Essex A friend of mine walked into the wrong room at a venue and really did find himself in the AGM of an anarchist organisation. |
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21 Apr 02 - 10:52 PM (#695291) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich GUEST,Peter from Essex -- Now, THAT'S an oxymoron!!!!!! |
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12 Jun 02 - 05:26 PM (#728658) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: mousethief Coincidences can't be ironic? |
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12 Jun 02 - 05:38 PM (#728673) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Slickerbill "Guest Host", "raised to the ground" |
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12 Jun 02 - 05:49 PM (#728679) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: mousethief free love secular saint loyal opposition ice cream compassionate conservatism worldly innocence good beer ovo-lacto-vegetarian self-righteous sweet wine monetary consideration guilt complex plastic glass standard exemption total partiality steel wool cotton wool sophomore preexisting antebellum fat-free sour cream dairy-free creamer positive feedback |
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12 Jun 02 - 09:40 PM (#728865) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Big John The author of this thread has pulled the wool across my eyes/ By using clever diction writing words of such a size/ In Ireland we have oxen and morons by the score/ But to breed an oxymoron it was never done before.// Is this some sort of Mudcat crossbred from a horse and cow/ Or a mule with horns and udder, will someone tell me now?/ Or some such other animal defying Nature's laws/ Or just a contradiction in a verbal sort of clause?// Jeez, I'd love to be as clever as these educated Yanks /Then I'd fill this space with double meaning words and leave no blanks/ But I'm going to have to finish with all this stupid talk/ It's time to take my little oxymoron for a walk. |
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13 Jun 02 - 01:59 PM (#729326) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wincing Devil Raised to the ground should be spelled "razed" as in what some men do to their face in the morning. |
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13 Jun 02 - 04:42 PM (#729461) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Chicken Charlie Accordion music Bible scholar [IMO, of course] Homeless shelter turtle race CC |
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13 Jun 02 - 11:06 PM (#729673) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: tremodt Park way drive way |
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14 Jun 02 - 06:49 AM (#729810) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Definitive version? |
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14 Jun 02 - 10:55 AM (#729921) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Sir Roger de Beverley One I came across recently that only I thought fitted the definition was "highly intelligent fell runner" R |
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14 Jun 02 - 12:00 PM (#729959) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: mousethief That's just silly, Chicken Charlie. One needn't believe something is true to acknowledge that people study it in a scholarly way. I don't believe in the Roman pantheon, but I acknowledge that there are scholars in Roman Mythology. Alex |
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14 Jun 02 - 02:41 PM (#730078) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Pete Jennings English summer. Pete
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15 Jun 02 - 02:00 AM (#730396) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Dead Horse Re baseball - World Series Shanty Singer Open Prison Vacant Expression Smart Bomb (unless it explodes and makes you sting slightly) ....(on my starting blocks and ready to run for cover)...Ladies Morris |
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15 Jun 02 - 07:41 AM (#730441) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: brid widder happily married! |
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15 Jun 02 - 08:22 AM (#730448) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Shields Folk stupid woman! |
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15 Jun 02 - 08:23 AM (#730449) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Shields Folk no sorry, thats a double negative! |
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17 Jun 02 - 04:52 PM (#731657) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wincing Devil Best Oxymoron So Far!: Religious Technology Lawdie! Save us from Helena Korbin! |
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17 Jun 02 - 09:20 PM (#731862) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Big John Iodine Tablets. The GOVERNMENT is sending a FREE packet of Iodine Tablets to every household in Ireland within the next week. Allellluuuiaaa Brethern, we are SAVED. Apparently, if an atomic bomb drops on you, there's no problem - you just rush home, swallow one of these and that's it. |
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18 Jun 02 - 12:47 AM (#731979) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wincing Devil Iodine Tablets...
How's that Oxymoronic? Moronic maybe... |
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18 Jun 02 - 03:28 AM (#732033) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Big John -- That poem is wonderful. Shame on you! *BG* |
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18 Jun 02 - 01:03 PM (#732294) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: InOBU President Bush Larry |
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20 Jun 02 - 09:50 PM (#734041) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Argenine "Live Dead" the wit and wisdom of George W Bush [Dan Quayle, etc.] NBC News In Depth Nice poem, Big John! Alex, I assume you're being ironic about "positive feedback." *b* |
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21 Jun 02 - 06:03 PM (#734423) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Pean O'Graffey Eco-tourism, Lady Thatcher |
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21 Jun 02 - 06:06 PM (#734426) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: mousethief Well "feedback" is sometimes used as a synonym for "unpleasant response" -- that's what I had in mind. I assume the ability for technology to become religious is only a while off -- if the artificial intelligence gurus are right (which I am not exactly assured of). Devout atheist -- did I already say that? Alex |
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21 Jun 02 - 06:20 PM (#734442) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Argenine Yeah, Alex, I assumed that's what you meant, but the term "feedback" itself is neutral; the response can be evaluative in a positive or negative sense, or it can merely be instructional or observational [as in, "..the guitar is louder than the vocals on that tape..."]. It's unfortunate that, as you suggest, many people think "feedback" = "criticism" = "a put down." I could say a similar thing about "tough love." It really isn't an oxymoron, as the term was used by the folks who coined the phrase. But too many people nowadays tend to use it to mean "retribution," "zero tolerance," etc. [as in thinking of the death penalty or life imprisonment as "tough love}. Arge |
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29 Oct 02 - 10:39 PM (#814122) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Bert Saw one today, a sign that advertised - FRESH JERKY |
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30 Oct 02 - 07:32 AM (#814268) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,noddy rock musician banjo player modern history management decision 95% fat free (the other 5% is 100% FAT) manchester united gold card love triangle |
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30 Oct 02 - 09:10 AM (#814329) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Shf How about the latest proposal from the EEC I.E United States of Europe. I can think of nowhere more un-united. |
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30 Oct 02 - 08:31 PM (#814841) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Nigel -- "Oxymora" may, indeed, be the proper plural form of the word. However, it is only used by those who don't realize that an oxymoron is defined as a particularly dim-witted beast of burden.*G* |
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30 Oct 02 - 09:36 PM (#814887) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Genie Discussed in another thread: "Algorithm" (Think about it, you Yanks.) Genie |
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31 Oct 02 - 11:55 AM (#815266) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: EBarnacle1 Creation Science My son and I were at a Chinese restaurant the other evening and I told him he was eating with an oxymoron. "What's an oxymoron" he asked. So I came up with a definition. Now I'll just show him this site. The oxymoron was, of course, "plastic silverware."" |
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01 Nov 02 - 05:59 AM (#815789) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: DG&D Dave Social Scientist Physical Chemist Well-person Clinic and in many computer manuals 'This page has intentionaly left blank'? |
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01 Nov 02 - 06:26 AM (#815801) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,allen woodpecker Howz about Fun Size Mars Bars? a.w. |
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01 Nov 02 - 11:08 AM (#816085) Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: EBarnacle1 The Mars Bar is fun size--if you own stock in the company. |