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BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!

23 Apr 02 - 09:18 PM (#697059)
Subject: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Bert

Blair Witch Project. What an awful overhyped heap of crap from beginning to end. You watch it through 'cos you just Know it's got to get better and have some point to it, and of course it never does.


23 Apr 02 - 09:22 PM (#697064)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: catspaw49

I gotta' think about this one Bert because you have started it off with a serious contender!!!

Spaw


23 Apr 02 - 09:28 PM (#697067)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Amergin

Forrest Gimp....hated that thing...especially hated tom hanks' character.....

and then there was philadelphia....another predictable bit of drivel from hanks...


23 Apr 02 - 09:41 PM (#697073)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Celtic Soul

Wow...too many to count.

Up there might be any of the Chris Reaves "Superman" films after #2, but more importantly, the "Supergirl" movie starring Helen Slater (who has about as much acting talent as I've seen in some kindergarten plays).

But for **all time lows**, there was this really gawd-awful Sci-Fi thing done in the 70's starring Richard Thomas of "Waltons" fame (John-Boy). It also had Sybil Danning as eye candy. I think it was called "Battle Beyond the Stars".

That has to be the worst film I have ever had the displeasure of having sat through. Thank the Lord I was not the one who paid.


23 Apr 02 - 09:49 PM (#697077)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Steve Latimer

The final Rocky movie with Dolf Lungren as the evil steroid taking Russian against Sly Stallone's All American hero. What a bunch of garbage. I enjoyed the ones before it.


23 Apr 02 - 09:51 PM (#697079)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,jonesey

Shoot! Forest Gump's already taken! Though 'Great Balls of Fire' w/Dennis Quaid's take on Jerry Lee Lewis was pretty regrettable, too. Wynonna Ryder as his 'child bride' when she was obviously too old? Wretched!


23 Apr 02 - 09:55 PM (#697082)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Art Thieme

It's never been made, but if it ever was, I'd most certainly hate a film based on the song "Waltzing With Bears". And I'd hate the song too---just like I always have hated it. That dumbass song, more than any other, signalled that the serious side of the folk revival was truly over --------- and the era of the lowly navel-gazing me-oriented singer/songwriter was about to erupt.

Art Thieme


23 Apr 02 - 10:02 PM (#697090)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Steve Latimer

Oh yeah, and those awful Disney "Mighty Ducks" movies. What an insult to the wonderful game of hockey.


23 Apr 02 - 10:08 PM (#697093)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: catspaw49

Any Elvis movie.

Almost any racing movie.

"2001; A Space Odyssey".....complete trash and the first time I ever fell asleep in a theatre.

"Wind"...A movie about 12 metre yacht racing that was simply tragic! What makes this one so bad is that they used several old 12's and had an excellent group of sailing advisors and yet the final product was beyond moronic.

The last two-thirds of "Apocalypse Now".......After Robert Duvall says, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning," it drags out into blathering crappola.

I'm sure I'll be back with more.

Spaw


23 Apr 02 - 10:10 PM (#697095)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Lepus Rex

Hah, I LIKED Blair Witch. No masterpiece, but better than most of the rest of the stuff in my local cineplex that year.

So... I'd like to say "Titanic," but I've only seen about 10 awful minutes of it, so that's not fair. Ditto with "Pay it Forward." Yuck.

I guess I'll have to go with anything made by Troma. They try sooo hard to make "so bad, they're good"-type movies, and it's so fucking forced. And their films have made me lose all kinds of respect for Lemmy Kilmister. (who, btw, I named my cat for) :(

---Lepus Rex


23 Apr 02 - 10:10 PM (#697096)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,irishajo

Beloved...I really wish I had those three hours back.


23 Apr 02 - 10:13 PM (#697097)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Amergin

well lepus...I tortured myself with those few hours watching titanic....and never forgave myself...


23 Apr 02 - 10:17 PM (#697101)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)

I lasted almost half an hour with Titanic. About the same with Amadeus. Both nonsense. Did anyone see Popguns?


23 Apr 02 - 10:32 PM (#697109)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Anahootz

Anything with Keanu Reeves in it. He is the thespian version of 'NSync. Or the AntiChrist...I can't decide.

If it weren't for him, "Point Break" might have been watchable. "The Matrix" might have been one of the greatest movies of all time. "Bill n' Ted" might have been moderately funny, instead of being used to euthanize stray animals.

And, without him, Sandra Bullock would've blown up on that damn bus in "Speed", and that would be one less crappy actor to worry about.


23 Apr 02 - 10:35 PM (#697112)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Lepus Rex

I think you're forgetting something about "Point Break," Anahootz: Patrick Swayze.

---Lepus Rex


23 Apr 02 - 10:44 PM (#697114)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Amergin

anahootz...not much of a fan of reeves myself...but he is not nearly as bad as miles o'keefe....(known in my family as the unactor, for he was so bad directors only gave him a few words at a time)....


23 Apr 02 - 10:56 PM (#697117)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Anahootz

That's why I said "Might have been watchable"...

The trick to watching Patrick Swayze movies is this:

Get a good, stout cage and put about 10 white mice in it.
Insert "Dirty Dancing" into the VCR, being careful not to read the "glowing praise" on the back of the box, as this might temporarily stun and disorient you.
Place the cage within arms distance from your seat, preferrably closer to the TV than you are actually sitting, as this serves the "filter" effect better.
Carefully watch movie.
If at any time the mice become distressed, watch them closely.
If a single mouse dies, this should be a warning. To avoid further Damage, turn the volume to the "off" setting.
During any Swayze scene, if more than 3 mice should die, immediately turn off the TV.

I know this sounds cruel, but believe me, it is for your own good. Other methods have been tried...For instance, Porcupines were used to test "Ghost", but for some reason they started rutting at the sight of Whoopi Goldberg.


24 Apr 02 - 12:13 AM (#697154)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Ebbie

I agree with the selection of Beloved. It was such a bad premise and so poorly thought out and developed- a friend and I still on occasion will throat-illy squeeze out B E L O V... and the other will shriek. And what about that scene where the mother jumps behind the bush to answer an uncontrollable urge- and by the sound effects you'd swear it was two elephants who had held it a long time! The female anatomy is just not built like that. Luckily I closed my eyes during the barfing scene...


24 Apr 02 - 12:40 AM (#697168)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Bert

Oh dear! I hate to disagree with Art 'cos he's one of my all time favourite heroes. But my slant on folk misic is from the LESS serios side and I love songs like "The Old Sow Song" and "Tom Pierce". Can't say as I love "Waltzing with Bears" though.

And GAWD Lepus! What on earth was there to LIKE about Blair Witch? Even the fake 'amateur movie' stuff was so poorly done that it was unbelievable from the start. I used to go to an amateur movie club, a hundred years or more ago, and even the worst of it was so much better than Blair Witch. The cinematograhy wouldn't even be acceptable on "America's Funniest" for Rice Cake.


24 Apr 02 - 12:43 AM (#697170)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: DonMeixner

"Tess" The longest, dullest, most boring film ever with the possible exception of "Gone With The Wind'.


24 Apr 02 - 12:44 AM (#697172)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Bert

I didn't even watch Titanic. Once you know the ending, what is there to watch?


24 Apr 02 - 12:54 AM (#697178)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Clinton Hammond

I liked Blair Witch... 10 minutes of scare...half an hour of tension, and the rest was pretty darn funny...

Worst? Any p.o.c. staring any SNL wanna-be after the original "Not Ready For Prime Time Players" tops my list of crap... Austin Powers, or a Chris Farley movie... or anything with what's his no-tallent name from Little Nicky...

Crap... and not even entertaining crap...

After that, it's a long list of animations from Dizney... blech...


24 Apr 02 - 12:55 AM (#697180)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Lepus Rex

Hehe, so you sure you didn't like it, eh bert? :)

What I enjoyed most about it was that % of the audience that, believe it or not, thought they were watching a REAL documentary, and that these poor students REALLY died. So the "amateur movie" stuff couldn't have been all that poorly done. Plus, it was low-budget, but made tons of monney thanks to clever marketing, and had a great ending, IMHO.

---Lepus Rex


24 Apr 02 - 12:56 AM (#697182)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Bert

10 minutes of scare? I guess you've never been REALLY scared. It was just pathetic all the way through.


24 Apr 02 - 01:00 AM (#697184)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Art Thieme

bert,

I was just being humorously facetious I thought. I actually have a tape of "Waltzing With Bears" by Jim Ringer and Mary McCaslin live that I really do enjoy. As always toward the end, Jim sounded drunk and lecherous as hell to boot. Made a good "fun" bar song out of it.

Art


24 Apr 02 - 01:05 AM (#697188)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Bert

Ah, that's good, Art. Thanks for not letting me take things too seriously. It's been going that way lately and I need to lighten up.


24 Apr 02 - 03:36 AM (#697246)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Trevor

The worst film I have ever, ever, ever seen is 'Viva Knievel'. It was on telly late one night, I couldn't sleep, I'm a bike enthusiast so I thought I'd watch it. I kept on watching it because I couldn't believe that there would be a film in existence that was so dire. I wanted to tell my children that I had sat through the worst film in the universe. I am proud of the fact that I did.

The other film that I don't ever want to see again is 'The Sound of Music'. I've only seen it once and it makes me want to throw up. What is wrong with those people who went to see it every week for years, making sure that it was on in Birmingham for ever. I HATE IT!!


24 Apr 02 - 03:54 AM (#697254)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,Hille

The New Avengers - appalling drivel for 40 minutes (as long as we lasted) (altho' I don't HATE it - except Titanic and SoM have already gone, unfortunately not to that great reel can in the sky)


24 Apr 02 - 08:15 AM (#697359)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: sophocleese

Any sequel of Indiana Jones. Star Wars, The Phantom Menace, special effects courtesy of a million or more bucks, script picked up in a bargain bin at Walmart. Never even bothered to see the Titanic, nothing about it even began to interest me. Laura Crofts Tomb Raider was also really really bad. We saw it because the movie we wanted to see was no longer showing and we'd already got the babysitter. Waste of time and money even if it does have Angelina Jolie for the guys to drool over.


24 Apr 02 - 08:30 AM (#697371)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Nigel Parsons

I find it hard to hate a film. For Love or Hate to flourish you need repeated contact. I may watch a bad film to the bitter, predictable, and totally disappointing end; but I know better than to watch it a second time.
Admittedly there are films which I will not even spend the time to watch once, but I've never wasted the time to get to hate a film.
Film cliches however, can be seen repeatedly. Some which I have come to hate include telling the tale as a bedtime story (Neverending Story; The Princess Bride; etc.,): The Americans saving everyone's bacon (even in conflicts in which they took no part):


24 Apr 02 - 09:03 AM (#697392)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: irishajo

Ebbie, I forgot about any barfing scene. Maybe I blocked it out. After one of the very first scenes with the dog being terrorized by the ghost...it was just horrific. Besides the grotesque scenes it was just bad.

Just about any movie on Lifetime will send me screaming from the room. The bad thing is my mom loves them and always wants me to watch them with her!


24 Apr 02 - 09:07 AM (#697395)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Rich_and_Dee

Ok, stand back, everyone. I might hurl even trying to remember the name. Ah yes, "The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover". It was released (or escaped) in the late 80's.

As for "Titanic" I saw a t-shirt shortly after the film came out that said, quite simply and elegantly "The boat sank. Get over it".

Rich


24 Apr 02 - 10:50 AM (#697471)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Steve Latimer

Dracula Sucks.


24 Apr 02 - 11:15 AM (#697485)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: SINSULL

Oh gee. Thanks Rich. I had forgotten about that one. The scene with the badguy stuffing buttons down that weird little boy's throat, the same badguy forcing pages of a book down another guy's throat with a wooden spoon, two naked people trapped in a truck full of rotting meat, maggots and all...should I go on?

My offering: "The Crying Game". Did anyone actually see the photograph of his "girlfriend" early in the movie and not know she was a guy? And anyone who insists that his girlfriend hold his hand while he pees in an outhouse deserves whatever he gets...as does she. That grossed me out.


24 Apr 02 - 11:58 AM (#697515)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Ebbie

Irishajo, the barfing scene was at the table when BELOVED first comes back. There may have been another instance- but by then I was looking away during most of the film.

Isn't it amazing how bad something can be- and yet the principals involved don't see it like that. I understand Oprah W. suspects that the film didn't do well because of the inherent racism in our society- and that's just not true. First, you make a good film...

I don't see many movies, and most of the ones I see have been urged upon me by friends and family. This one was a BIG mistake.


24 Apr 02 - 12:05 PM (#697522)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,Slickerbill

Okay, I've had endless arguments about this one, akin to Seinfeld's Elaine's trouble over The English Patient. It's "Life is Beautiful". What a crock of over hyped crap.


24 Apr 02 - 01:24 PM (#697595)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: JenEllen

Down Periscope. Cinematic stinker extrordinaire. My ex LOVED it. He was like a kid with a Disney movie with this one--and the film itself annoyed me so badly that I couldn't even sleep through it. All I could think was "Just how badly do they need the money?"

Much agreed on the Dirty Dancing--that one also gets my vote for most hideous soundtrack. I was driving from SanFran to Vegas with a girlfriend just after the movie had come to theatres. She popped that in the cassette deck and all I heard was She's like the wind through my trees... What the hell is that all about? I ejected the tape and threw it out the window. Told her I'd buy her another one when we got home, but I wasn't going to be trapped for hours listening the THAT.


24 Apr 02 - 01:45 PM (#697611)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

Oh, man. Serious contenders here...

Let me add:

Pretty Woman

Armageddon

Planet of the Apes (the recent one, that is)

The Mummy (except for the Egyptian scene at the beginning, which was pretty marvelous...oh, and the charge of the Tuaregs was good, too...),

Frogs- probably the WORST horror movie ever made, bar none.

Now, I didn't see "Tomb Raider", but how could anyone expect a movie made on such a slender premise as that to be anything BUT awful? If you went to see it, it's your own fault you wasted your money! The only intriguing thing about Lara Croft is...how can she stand up at all with those things on her chest? (And are they real?)

- LH


24 Apr 02 - 02:02 PM (#697624)
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From: Little Hawk

Oh, and this one...

Independence Day

What a stinker. I bet George Bush could write a better screenplay than that one. Well, maybe not much better, but still...

- LH


24 Apr 02 - 02:03 PM (#697626)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,Desdemona at work

I'm SHOCKED that no-one has mentioned "Braveheart", the single worst piece-o-crap movie ever made!


24 Apr 02 - 02:39 PM (#697649)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Clinton Hammond

Bravehart wasn't so bad... so long as you keep reminding yourself that it's FICTION!!!!!! Total fantasy!

Too bad too... the story of Wallace would make a pretty darn good movie...


24 Apr 02 - 02:44 PM (#697652)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Hollowfox

I dodged the bullet on a lot of these epics, cheapskate that I am. I just checked Laura Croft out of the library, though, and it didn't hold my interest, so I never finished watching it. Ho and hum.
**But, I'm surprised that Popeye hasn't been named yet. Or maybe there's a mental block or two going around. Talk about dissapointments - Jules Feiffer writing the script, Robin Williams and Ray Walston playing father and son - I was looking forward to a live action Thimble Theater flick. We left the drive-in while one of us was still awake enough to drive home. It turns out we'd only seen about 1/3 of the movie. Nothing had happened yet, so it was hard to tell.


24 Apr 02 - 02:52 PM (#697658)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Pseudolus

Hmmm, I have to admit, I have always been a fan of Tom Hanks. The diversity of characters he's been able to pull off, and pull off well imho, is impressive. But this isn't a thread to praise so my nomination would have to be "AI". Had difficulty staying awake on that one. And although I typically enjoy Robin Williams (particularly Good Will Hunting), I hated "What Dreams May Come".

And "Ali". It's hard to believe that I was very impressed with Will Smith AND Jon Voigt and STILL did not like the movie. A movie that long had the opportunity to get deep into this story but it felt like the producers/directors couldn't decide between Ali the boxer, Ali the man, or both. An incredibly long movie that did none of the above.

Three nominations.....I'm over my quota!!!

Frank


24 Apr 02 - 02:53 PM (#697659)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Amergin

iu loved popeye....


24 Apr 02 - 02:55 PM (#697660)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Don Firth

I rarely go to movies anymore because I don't like paying to listen to other people's cell phone conversations while some juvenile delinquent kicks the back of my seat. I either wait for them to hit the tube or rent the video. Granted, I lose the thrill of wide screen and surround sound, but I can always stop the tape to go to the john or raid the fridge, and I can freely burp and scratch without people pointing and giggling. For those who grasp the reference, it's called "Onslow mode."

I've seen some really putrid stuff over the years, most of which I've probably repressed, but one I saw recently reached truly monumental heights of—what?—words fail me!

Armageddon

This could possibly be a candidate for the other movie thread, but I'm not sure it has any redeeming features.

A "Texas-size" asteroid, much bigger than a dinosaur killer, is hurtling toward the earth (now there's an original plot!). Since NASA is too incompetent to deal with matters having to do with space, the Powers That Be opt to send Bruce Willis and his oil-drilling crew to the asteroid to drill a hole, plant a nuclear bomb, and blow it up from inside (one bomb, even a powerful nuke, is gonna do this?). So far, not too bad. But then—two shuttles (standard shuttles, the kind you see frequently in the news) are launched. They fly under power all the way to the asteroid, without aid of SRBs or big orange fuel tanks, in formation, swooping and maneuvering like F-16s—in the vacuum of space (well, gee, why not? They did it inStar Wars!). They crash-land on the asteroid at thousands of miles per hour, braking by plowing immense furrows in—what?—nickel iron?. Everybody survives!! They break out the dune-buggies and make their way to the optimum point to drill their hole, leaping over broad chasms easily because of the low gravity, but showing no other signs that gravity is any less than it is on earth. When the hole is finally drilled (after many trials and tribulations) and the bomb is planted, they return to one of the wrecked shuttles. (SPOILER ALERT!) Miraculously everything works! They take off, the asteroid blows up in the proverbial nick, and all's right with the world, oh joy oh joy!!

But even a plot synopsis, bad as that is, gives little indication of the malodorous nature of this movie. Everybody in the movie is mad at everybody else, and no one speaks in a normal tone of voice; they all SHOUT AT THE TOPS OF THEIR LUNGS (this, I guess, is called "acting"). The action is non-stop, and the noise from the sound track is always at top volume (this, I guess, is called "exciting"). Everything goes wrong, but someone always manages to save the situation at the last possible second (this, I guess, is called "building suspense").

The stupidest line in the movie occurs when they're trying to take off from the asteroid as the timer on the nuke ticks away relentlessly (really original plot gimmick!). The engines won't fire. Someone begins tinkering desperately with an electrical panel. When the mandatory Russian cosmonaut says, "Let me look at it," someone else says, "No! That's classified!" (Which is to say, "We're all gonna die when the asteroid blows, but by God, our military secrets [on a space shuttle?] are safe!") The funniest (and best) line in the whole movie is the cosmonaut's response, as he forces the American aside. "American, Russian, what's the difference? They're all made in Taiwan!" At which point, he bangs the panel with his fist and—lo!—the engines fire!!

After watching this movie on video, I had to open the windows and air out my apartment. Roger Ebert called it "A one-hundred and fifty minute trailer." And another reviewer said that he would have given it five stars if the bloody asteroid actually had destroyed the earth!

Armageddon is "Sci-Fi" at it's absolute worst, and a shimmeringly fetid example of how wretched Hollywood can sometimes get (emphasis on the "retch.").

One reviewer (not a pro) on the Internet Movie Data Base said he thought it was the best movie he had ever seen. He probably speaks Klingon, too. But strangely enough, I recommend this movie, just so you can say that you've actually seen the . If it weren't so damned loud and such an insult to the intelligence, you could almost take it for a comedy. You would probably want to see it no more than once, though. Someone (Oscar Wilde perhaps?) said, "Once, a philosopher; twice, a pervert!"

Don Firth


24 Apr 02 - 04:38 PM (#697733)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: sophocleese

Gee Don I didn't think it was THAT bad:) Only kidding, I think you nailed it pretty good there. U571 was awful. Wing Commander was silly. At one point the spaceship is sitting on an asteroid trying to avoid being seen by the enemy. Everybody is very, very quiet just as they are on submarines because of the danger of sonar. I turn to my husband and say "If they're in a vacuum why are they worried about sound waves?" But hey it gave a chance for the actors to show they could look still and vacant even when they're supposed to.


24 Apr 02 - 05:05 PM (#697752)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: RangerSteve

Going back a few years, how about Nashville? I never understood why critics seem to love it. And I'd like to go on record as being the first here to say that 2001 - A Space Odyssey struck me as a bunch of crap.

Robin Williams annoys me. I avoid any movie that he stars in.

I was angry after seeing Contact with Jodie Foster. I like her, but I couldn't make any sense out of the movie.

Speaking of which, Anna and the King was way to long. I like the musical, and I always wondered what happened to Tuptim. The non-musical made it quite clear, and now I'm sorry I asked. I'm not sure I can watch the musical again, knowing what really happened.


24 Apr 02 - 05:07 PM (#697753)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: SINSULL

Braveheart...oh god yes! What a never ending turkey!
Add to the list "Trainspotting". I saw it in a filled to capacity theater. During the swan dive into the filthy toilet bowl full of diarrhea, 20 people walked out. By the time it was over only 25 remained. I think I stayed just to see how many were left.


24 Apr 02 - 05:12 PM (#697757)
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From: Amergin

love trainspotting....


24 Apr 02 - 05:16 PM (#697762)
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From: Peter T.

The movie (the title has escaped me, thank goodness) with Alex Baldwin and Meg Ryan where she is an old person reincarnated, and he isn't, or something. Unbelievably bad.

"At Long Last Love", Peter Bogdanovich's musical, is on my list of indescribably bad films. It just went on and on getting worse.

"The Phantom Menace" is the worst movie I have seen in the last ten years. Utterly, completely wasted film, terribly acted, dismal script, racist (almost nobody mentions the Jewish scrap dealer with the big nose), and excruciatingly dull predictable special effects. And what was with the second rate evil demon? Huh?

"Titanic" had thirty seconds of greatness, worth the whole three hours -- the scene where the hero sinks out of sight in the icy water is terrific.

Here's a question: the worst James Bond film, not including the Lazenby film (in a category of its own)?


24 Apr 02 - 05:17 PM (#697763)
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From: Kim C

I, too, hated The Blair Witch Project. What a bunch of crybabies. Couldn't stand them yelling and complaining all the time. That's what they get for not knowing what to do when you go in the woods. So there.

And I really hated Thelma and Louise. What was touted as a paean to the female spirit was a tribute to sheer cowardice and stupidity. What a couple of losers.

I saw something on TV awhile back that was really strange, and only watched it because nothing else was on. I think it was called Dead Funny or something like that. Andrew McCarthy was in it, and it was Just Plain Weird. Although, the part where the woman tries to tell her friends she killed her boyfriend, and they don't believe her, is sort of amusing.


24 Apr 02 - 06:18 PM (#697804)
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From: Clinton Hammond

Heh... Trainspotting... good flick...

It makes me laugh when wimps walk out of a movie theatre because they're offended...

Like when me and a few of my buddies HOWLED with laughter through Natural Born Killers! The people who walked out, and one who actually stopped and said to us, "You guys are terrible for laughing at this horrid violence."

My response was, "It's called 'parody'... do your brain a favour and look it up some time."

Spielburg tells a great story of the preview night of Jaws... the movie was weeks behind sched. and thousands and thousands over budget... he KNEW if it wasn't a hit, he'd never work again... So while the movie ran, he was out pacing back and forth in the lobby... occasionally glancing into the theatre, just to see how things were going... This goes on until the sequence at the beach, when the kid on the inflatable gets chomped! It's the first really violent scene in the flick... And the blood goes, and the screaming and running with the small kid at the water side, crying and everything... the audience response was horrid... the screamed, the hid their eyes... and one major critic leapt to his feet, ran up the isle into the lobby and was "violently and loudly" ill into a garbage can... well, Steve said his heart sank... "My god.. what am I gonna do for a living now?", he asked himself...

Until...

The critic got up... straightened his tie and jacket... dusted off his knees, and hurried back into the theatre...

Steve knew he had a hit!

More or less transcribed from "Inside The Actors Studio"

;-)


24 Apr 02 - 06:48 PM (#697825)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,sarah guest

Recent film: has to be "the last castle". even the music was embarassing! "serendipity" was awful too!


24 Apr 02 - 07:29 PM (#697859)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: kendall

I walked out on Blair Witch.Stupid, not scary and poorly filmed. If I were subject to seasickness I would have snapped my garbage.Anyone who cant tell north from south, and doesn't know enough to follow a stream is lucky that it does not require a brain to breath. Edward Scissorhands! taLK about drivel! The Loser, and still unchampion...LOBSTEROIDS!


24 Apr 02 - 07:39 PM (#697866)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Clinton Hammond

Heh... ya... city kids lost in the bush... that was pretty damn funny!

LOL!!!!


24 Apr 02 - 10:01 PM (#697949)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: ddw

Lot of good candidates here, but nobody has mentioned a couple of my favorites to groan over —— Silence of the Lambs and Hunt For Red October. The former was so silly I can't even describe what's bad about it. In HFRO, they've got a chance to get their hands on a Soviet sub that has incredibly advanced technology. They're really gonna tap a reserve officer to go out and get it..... Yeah.....

And then there's ET. In the final scene, ET levitates and he and all his little buddies go flying over all their pursuers. If the little bugger could fly, how they hell did he get bogged down in all the plants at the start of the movie?

Still, I have to go with Titanic as the worst. I had studiously avoided seeing any more of it or about it until our retarded 14-year-old grandson came for a weekend and brought his favorite film. That's when it twigged on me why it was so popular......

david


24 Apr 02 - 10:11 PM (#697952)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Jerry Rasmussen

Jurassic Park Three. A dinosaur eats someone's cell phone, craps it out and they hear it playing it's little answering machine several hours later? People are surrounded by vicious carnivore dinosaurs because they've stolen their eggs, and when they give the eggs back to the dinosaurs, the dinosaurs just sat, Oh thank you, I guess it was just a missunderstanding? Somebody let's their kid go hang gliding over an island where they know there are living dinosaurs? What kind of a baby sitter is that. I thought the movie was the most insultingly stupid I'd ever seen. And the "new" Reallybigosaurus made me laugh he looked so stupid. Actually, I didn't like the movie much at all. And I can enjoy clunkers like Twister just for the special effects.

Jerry


25 Apr 02 - 09:48 AM (#698232)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Fibula Mattock

Don - well said. When i complained that Armageddon was an awful film I was told it was supposed to be funny. I had to tell them that I had treated it as a comedy and it still wasn't any good.

Worst film ever... Johnny Mnemonic. It has Keanu Reeves, f*ck-all of a plot, and Cyber Dolphins. And yet it was a great story orginally (from William Gibson's Neuromancer).

A close second is Fifth Element. Awful. Oh wait, yes, more Bruce Willis - that's probably why. And Gary Oldman doing his facial tick villain type (as per every other film he's in). I came out of the cinema after seeing it and complained that the worst thing was that there was no plot. My flatmate informed me that "there was a plot - they had to get the elements together and save the world". No shit! What a plot!!

There are more...there are many more...and Forrest Gump would've been near the top if it hadn't been mentioned already.

In summation: anything with Keanu Reeves, Bruce Willis, Patrick Swayze or Tom Hanks is likely to be bad. Especially if it's an action movie. Or a feel-good one.

The ultimate moronic movie would be a Sci-Fi action movie where Tom Hanks (terminally ill and with a low IQ) takes a daring band of misfits (including trench-coat wearing sensitive Keanu Reeves) into space to rescue intergalatic dance teacher Patrick Swayze and his dance students (fiesty Julia Roberts and kooky Meg Ryan) from space pirates (headed by twitchy Gary Oldman) while Detective Bruce Willis is on the spaceship trying to defuse a bomb that was armed when the ship reached warp speed, and which could wipe out America and possibly other places such as cities with easily identifiable landmarks (London - Big Ben, Paris - Eiffel Tower, Moscow - some domed churches, a desert with Arabs, etc.). Will they save the day, learn the meaning of life and love, dance at the end-of-journey concert, save America (and possibly other bits of the world if they have time), defeat the evil space pirates and find in their hearts the true meaning of friendship? Course they feckin' will!


25 Apr 02 - 10:05 AM (#698252)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Kim C

I liked Edward Scissorhands. I enjoy the fairy-tale-ness of Tim Burton's movies. Yeah, sure, it was silly, but I'm a girl, and it's sort of a girly movie. Sometimes I like that sappy stuff. ;-)


25 Apr 02 - 10:47 AM (#698277)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Trevor

I thought 'Armageddon' was a mickey-take.

I remember seeing some sequel to 'The Wizard of Oz' a few years ago. Can't remember what it was called, who was in it, what the story was, who I was with, where I saw it - great night out!

And what about 'Stuart Little'? Pass the clothes peg somebody!


25 Apr 02 - 11:44 AM (#698318)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

Don - Bravo for the devastating summation of "Armageddon". Exactly what I wanted to say, but I didn't have time. My feelings about "Independence Day" were quite similar, but I still have to say that "Armageddon" is the worse of the two...by a whisker. Almost everything that is stupid, excessive, and repugnant about American culture can be found in those 2 movies...except for the pornographic field of action, I suppose...they didn't have room to squeeze that stuff in as well.

Hollowfox - "Popeye"? I loved it, I think it was great, it was marvelous....but I'm a big comic book fan, always have been, so there you are. I liked "Howard the Duck", probably for much the same reasons, although "Popeye" was not just good, it was superb...the only weak character (in the sense of matching the originals in the comic) was J. Wellington Wimpy. He could've been much better done.

"Natural Born Killers" was a pretty remarkable film. I give it 5 stars, no question.

- LH


25 Apr 02 - 12:29 PM (#698374)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Micca

No one has mentioned the most fatuous, dismal, stupid film of the last 30 years, I give you " Alices Restaurant"!!!! I caught it on Late night once, and was goggle-eyed at the sheer cheek of anyone charging admission to this crap!!! A lame , song was expanded until it was a Gossamer thin plot, then diluted until transparent, and then palmed off a gullible public on the back of name of the song...


25 Apr 02 - 12:44 PM (#698391)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

Yeah, there was a fairly brief period of "hippy/longhaired" exploitation flicks...between about 1967 and 1976, I'd say...and most of them were AWFUL!!!

Some of them were:

Billy Jack (*) The Trial of Billy Jack (Minus 8 stars!) Joe (have never seen it) Zachariah (half a star) Easy Rider (*1/2) Wild In The Streets (have never seen it) Alice's Restaurant (*)

And TV... don't forget the Mod Squad! Crap, crap, crap! Only one who has actually lived through those times knows just how bad those shows were as any kind of honest depiction of what the hell was really going on...

Anybody got more lousy "hippy-flicks" they can recall?

- LH


25 Apr 02 - 03:45 PM (#698537)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST

Armageddon! I had even blocked its name from my memory, which made it hard to warn people about it. Aaarrrgghh! If you think you hated it, picture people who knew something about drilling and drillers. Absolutely insane garbage. Shoulda been sued for impersonating a movie.

Anybody else in the world seen "Impulse" a cheesy horror flick starring William Shatner at the low ebb of his cheesy career, circa 1974?.

Forrest Gump. The more a person liked it, the dumber they were or thought they were.

Dances with Wolves (yes, parts were lyrical but the other 90% was loud manipulative politically correct crap)

Braveheart, or "Watch My Ego in a Kilt"


25 Apr 02 - 03:54 PM (#698545)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: AliUK

hmmmmm....KIDS a supposedly avant garde experiment about a load of fucked up kids made by a load of fucked up kids, the only movie in my life that I got up and walked out of the cinema before the end as I couldn't stand any more of it.....ANYTHING WITH TOM HANKS...barf enducing crap.


25 Apr 02 - 04:26 PM (#698569)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

Oh yeah, and let me add one more resounding vote for the Blair Witch Project as a serious contender for worst of all time. I had the good sense not to see it at the theatre, but was visiting a friend who ran the video one time. The fact that this movie could actually succeed, and then spawn at least 2 of the worst computer games in history (according to magazine reviews I've read of them)...is a wry comment on the culture in which we live.

Also, add to this list ANY movie starring Jerry Lewis!!! They are uniformly godawful, and really sickening too.

- LH


25 Apr 02 - 08:11 PM (#698715)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: kendall

No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American people.


26 Apr 02 - 01:09 AM (#698875)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

No, but Mozart went broke overestimating the taste of the Viennese, didn't he?

-LH


26 Apr 02 - 12:13 PM (#699137)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: SINSULL

"Lobsteroids". Without a doubt, the worst movie I have ever seen. Were it not for the brilliant tall tale telling Kendall Morse, I would not recommend it to anyone.

Just saw "Die, Monster, Die" with Nick Adams (The Blob"?) Only the bad and the stupid suffer from exposure to the green, pulsating, humming stone/asteroid. Animals and plants grow huge. People get radiation burns and implode. Boris Karloff turns into the stone and sparkles to death. The stone when shattered by an axe dies?????? Nick and Girl, unscathed though they handled the stones, walk off into the sunset for America - and they probably walked there from England given the logic of the rest of the movie.Giant Turkey!!! Almost as big as the screaming starling in the greenhouse.


26 Apr 02 - 01:36 PM (#699185)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Clinton Hammond

Ummmm

Check yer sources please...

Johnny Mnemonic is not from William Gibson's 'Neuromancer'...

It's from William Gibson's short story, 'Johnny Mnemonic'...

A good piece of lit, but no way would it translate to the big screen unchanged... the changes that were made weren't all that bad considering how drastic some of them were... and even Keanu had a few moments... like his rant on the garbage tip "I want room SERVICE!!!!" More of that would have really helped that movie!

I still hope that one day, maybe 'Neuromancer' will be made into a GREAT movie!


26 Apr 02 - 01:50 PM (#699194)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Peg

sorry, but I must disagree about The Blair Witch Project. I thought it one of the most ingenious pieces of independent American cinema of the last twenty years...not to mention a very successful work in the horror genre.

I think a lot of people didn't get it. I have actually heard people say they just plain didn't like the cinematography...huh?

I think a lot of the recent teen sexploitation films are silly.

Almost anything with Kevin Costner is barely worth watching, in my opinion...except maybe JFK.

peg


26 Apr 02 - 02:56 PM (#699228)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Pseudolus

I'm a little curious about the Tom Hanks haters. I can certainly understand if folks don't go overboard LOVING Tom Hanks but hating any movie he's in? I'm curious, is it the actor, or is it that none of his movies were enjoyable to you?

Clearly, "To each his/her own" seems to be the motto of this thread!

Frank


26 Apr 02 - 03:46 PM (#699256)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: SharonA

72 posts, and no one has mentioned "The Shining" or "Pet Sematary"? Both are horrible – not horror, just horrible.


26 Apr 02 - 03:49 PM (#699260)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Clinton Hammond

It's just unfortunate that The Blair Witch Project wasn't half as original as they claimed it was... I heard some critics say that it was "the first of it's kind", when it was SOOOO obviously inspired by FOX TV's "The Incident At Lake County"...

Blair Witch had better FX though...

And as said above, was a huge success, especially concidering that it was made for a song...

It's really too bad that the one sequel was SOO poorly done that it looks like it's killed the 'myth' for good...


26 Apr 02 - 04:24 PM (#699278)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Peter T.

Speaking of Armageddon, can anyone explain why Liv Tyler?

yours, Peter T.


26 Apr 02 - 09:27 PM (#699358)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Clinton Hammond

Give me one good reason why NOT Liv Tyler!

Hubba hubba!!!!

:-P~~~~~~~~~~


27 Apr 02 - 01:41 PM (#699448)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: SINSULL

I thought the Blair Witch project was great. All implied horror. And that creepy final scene of the guy standing in the corner waiting his turn. Innovative use of cheap advertising and hype via the internet. Brilliant.

Tom Hanks? I loved "Big". "Philadelphia" certainly wasn't saccharine. Preferred the soccer ball to Hanks in "Shipwrecked" or "Marooned" or whatever that turkey was.


27 Apr 02 - 01:49 PM (#699450)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: wildlone

The "historical" films that end up getting it totally wrong. Cromwell comes to mind.
But Rod Stieger was a great Napoleon in Waterloo.


27 Apr 02 - 06:33 PM (#699514)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: McGrath of Harlow

I've saved a lot of time not seeing most of those films. And the ones that have been mentioned which I have seen I tended to think were pretty good. But I won't try to start a fight by saying which ones those were.

Of course the trick here is to nominate some film that everyone loves and say it was total crap. But you can only do that if you really think it was. I can't think of one off hand.

(But I can think of a film I saw yesterday, and I thought I'd probably loathe it; and if anyone doesn't like it I'll think they are off their trolley - About a Boy. (Don't let the fact it's got Hugh Grant put you off it.)


27 Apr 02 - 08:01 PM (#699546)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,phil@gcbf.com

Being a wimp, I had not the courage to say "The Emperor has no clothes" when I should have done. It was all the rage at the time with the artsy 'In Crowd' and I soooo wanted to be in with them. Looking back I have no idea what the hell I was thinking about. The movie? My Dinner with Andre. Absolutely tortuous.


28 Apr 02 - 06:29 AM (#699702)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: The Walrus

There have been several mentions of "Braveheart" but no-one has mentioned "Braveheart-Doodle-Dandy" (sorry "The Patriot"). W


28 Apr 02 - 07:05 AM (#699716)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Tam the bam fraeSaltcoatsScotland

Any star wars films or the titanic, the reason is because that the films are crap.

Tom


28 Apr 02 - 08:02 AM (#699728)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,Bob "with 3 kidz, who has time for movies" Z

I can not believe I sat through to the end of "The Faculty." Please somebody explain to me how that got past the 1st script; past the pitch-men; past the studio execs; past the producers; past the director and into my tv set.


28 Apr 02 - 09:11 AM (#699750)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Thonolan

I actually loved many of the previously listed movies such as "The Blair Witch Project" and "Forrest Gump".

Two of the worst movies that I've ever seen were "Bedazzled" and "Battlefield Earth". Both of those were dreadful.


28 Apr 02 - 09:22 AM (#699754)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Thonolan

"Kids" is one of my absolute favorites. I enjoyed "Thelma & Loiuse" as well.


28 Apr 02 - 09:44 AM (#699764)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Gareth

Please do not place " A Night to Remember" in the same catagory as "Titanic", same subject, different treatment.

But for inacurracy, stereo typing, and sheer engineering impossibility, and a c**p plot, "The Poisidon Adventure" must take the trophy.

I suspect many of the younger catters will not have seen the older wartime made films. "Fires were Started", "Target for Tonight", " The Bells Go Down" and others of that ilk, were and are good examples of films which stand the test of time, even if the dialoge sounds a little stilted.

But ofr films of that era there is only one contender for the 'Turkey Trophy ' - Yes I give you -

Objective Burma


Gareth


28 Apr 02 - 02:38 PM (#699893)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

Ah, yes, "The Poseidon Adventure"...absolutely awful...like a BAD TV show. There's one thing you can pretty well count on...if Ernest Borgnine has an important part in a movie, it's a lousy movie! Why this is, I don't know. "The Wild Bunch" may be the only exception to that rule...

The same rule usually goes with Ricardo Montalban. What is it with those guys? They gravitate to "B" movies like flies to manure.

Then there's Ronald Reagan, of course.

I see possibilities for a whole new thread here. "Lousiest B-movie actors & actresses"

- LH


28 Apr 02 - 04:42 PM (#699971)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: The Walrus

Gareth,

Objective Burma, oh yes, - Well Called.

The 1979 "All Quiet on the Western Front", not moronic, but badly cast and poorly executed - some parts were reasonable, but it wouldn't strand up to the origional.

W


28 Apr 02 - 05:58 PM (#700008)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: SINSULL

I don't understand your problem with "Titanic"...besides DeCaprio looking as if he were having an affair with his nanny,

I have a copy of this one. Use it to run and rerun the disaster sequences. Great special effects.


28 Apr 02 - 07:07 PM (#700040)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: RangerSteve

Little Hawk, It's nice to see someone else liked Popeye. Actually this came up on an earlier thread, and a few of us liked it. About Natural Born Killers, though, I'm afraid of anyone who liked that one. Wild in the Streets was not bad, since it was a parody of all the other hippie oriented movies from the same time. Joe, however is so bad that I blocked it from my memory until you brought it back. It's worse than bad. It's a movie that says heroin is wonderful, the most noble thing you can ever do to yourself, and your parents are scum for not wanting you to have it. And they want to kill you. It's amazing that Peter Boyle and Susan Sarandon survived that movie and had careers afterwords.

Another that I want to forget is Seven. The most well done piece of crap ever filmed. The people involved with writing, directing, make-up, and everything else are out there walking among us and we don't know who they are, or what they look like. ANd they are very sick people indeed. We need to find them and kill them.


28 Apr 02 - 08:24 PM (#700065)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,johntm

Anything with Sylvester Stallone. Almost anything with Robin Williams--he is a great comic, but every movie is the same simple minded nonsense.

The Royal Tenenbaums was the greatest bore I have seen in years. Fell asleep in the first 5 minutes and struggled to stay awake for the rest.

Virtually any movie shown in a suburban cineplex, unless Jennifer Connelly is in it.


28 Apr 02 - 08:36 PM (#700073)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

Ranger Steve - You are a kindred soul. Let me explain why I like "Natural Born Killers". I have never liked any other movie that could be said to superficially resemble NBK...but...in the case of NBK it was so far over the top that it was clearly a form of symbolic satire, and I liked what it had to say about some of the sickest common values of our culture and particularly our entertainment systems. It was a savage attack on TV in particular, and I always like movies that savagely attack TV. I loved Network for the same reason.

So, although I avoid "slice and dice" movies like the plague normally, this one was for me a horse of a different colour.

It exposed so many common levels of hypocrisy and laid them bare in all their ugliness. I think it was a great movie. An extraodinary statement about a crazy culture that takes itself for granted while it destroys people's finest qualities relentlessly and savagely...for money, sex, and fame.

Don't worry. I'm one of the least dangerous people I have ever met in my life.

- LH


28 Apr 02 - 08:37 PM (#700074)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Thonolan

I thought "The Royal Tennebaums" was fantastic...

On the other hand, I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned "The Waterboy". Both Adam Sandler and Kathy Bates were absolutely horrendous in that movie.


28 Apr 02 - 09:21 PM (#700102)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: kendall

I didn't get how the preacher planned to get them out of the Posidoin through the bottom. If there had been a hole there, the ship would have sunk long before!


28 Apr 02 - 10:38 PM (#700134)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Celtic Soul

OH!!! :::APPLAUSE!!!::::

GuestPhil, I must have blocked "My Dinner With Andre" until you mentioned it here! Yes, that's one of the worst in my experience as well. I went because Siskel and Ebert gave it a "2 thumbs up". How stupid is that, to believe a thing must be good because they say it is so?


28 Apr 02 - 10:51 PM (#700140)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

I rather liked it...

- LH


28 Apr 02 - 10:56 PM (#700144)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Celtic Soul

My problem with "Dinner", LH, is that, if I wanted dinner conversation for entertainment, I'd want it to be interactive. Watching other people eat and converse made me hungry and in need of dialoguing.


28 Apr 02 - 11:06 PM (#700149)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

Well, yes, I see what you mean...

It was a pretty demanding movie in its own peculiar way. If it had been made in Hollywood (I'm assuming it wasn't) someone would have burst in halfway through and tried to shoot Andre. They would have stopped him (just barely). He would then have reappeared, having miraculously recovered from various fatal wounds, several more times, thus repeatedly breaking Andre's train of thought, which is VERY inconsiderate. They would finally have had to empty an entire clip of 50 cal. bullets into him, cut his head off, throw him down a convenient elevator shaft, and then blow him up "real good" with a half-ton of explosives. It would have been quite exciting, but hard to follow...

- LH


29 Apr 02 - 02:06 AM (#700225)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Bert

Aw Peg, How can you say that the Blair Witch camera waggling is cinematography. Most 3 year olds could do better. It was so poor it that it destroyed any semblance of reality, let alone horror. All I could do was express extreme disbelief that anything so poorly produced could be taken seriously at all.

The only reason we got to see it at all was, (in SINSULL'S words) "cheap advertising and hype".


29 Apr 02 - 12:27 PM (#700483)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,Here's the Laundry List...

First, I'm sorry that I didn't get to mention _The Patriot_ first; the ridiculous American caricature with Snively Whiplash-esque British villians. Was it suppose to make me feel proud to be an American? Or immense hatred towards the British? Couldn't tell. Let's just say that the historical figure that Mel Gibson's character was based on was in reality 1) a ruthless bounty hunter, and 2) owned slaves. Not that I hold that against any figure from the 1700's, but Hollywood cleaned them up into being indentured servants or freedmen. I suppose that Hollywood has to cast people like Gibson into extreme black/white camps, because we're just too dumb to separate shades of gray. Ditto the tarring of the British officers, with their ridiculous posturing and sneering.

Fortunately, I was first to add this one: _Cast Away_, starring this list's favorite actor that you love to hate: Tom Hanks. There really aren't that many nameless and obscure atolls to hide people for 7 years anymore. That and the whole "dilemma" brought on by his return. What a crock. I remember Tony Curtis being in a movie like this, where he returns after his first wife declared him dead with a common-law wife from the boat wreck. The difference being, that was a COMEDY. And the fact that Cast Away was an unabashed, unapologetic 120 minute infonmercial for Fed Ex, compleat with Fed Ex's CEO welcoming the poor Castaway home as icing on the cake. Kill me, kill me...kill me now.

Also on my list is _John Q_, again suffering from the black/white issue polarization syndrome; _Piranha_, lovingly brought to the screen by Roger Corman, and to wrap up my list, _Godzilla 2000_, which was nowhere near as fun as any of its predecessors.


29 Apr 02 - 05:58 PM (#700734)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Celtic Soul

:::snort!!:::

Touche, LH!! You have a good point. Hollywood does tend to go straight over the top on most counts. However, for alternative film, my vote would be for "Return of the Secaucus 7". An Indy precursor to the Hollywood clone called "The Big Chill". It wasn't exclusively over dinner, so I didn't get hungry, and it coined one of my favorite terms..."Bambicide".

Major thread drift!!!!


29 Apr 02 - 07:01 PM (#700775)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

For Bambicide the film you MUST see is "Bambi Meets Godzilla". It's short but very dramatic.

Regarding "The Patriot" - I had such a VERY BAD feeling about that movie, that I have avoided seeing it entirely up till now, even on video. I know that I would hate it. I avoid a lot of bad movies that way, but every now and then I slip up. I avoided the later Rambo movies for the same reason, and the last Rocky movie as well.

I like some of Mel Gibson's movies...about half of them.

- LH


29 Apr 02 - 10:13 PM (#700869)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Celtic Soul

Oh, I *loved* "Bambi Meets Godzilla". The first time I saw it I spewed movie theatre popcorn all over the person next to me. Have you seen "Bambis Revenge"?

And for more stinkers, just tonight I saw "Black Knight" starring Martin Lawrence. I'll take "A Knights Tale" over this any day...which says quite a lot, as that one made me groan rather horrendously.


29 Apr 02 - 10:42 PM (#700880)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Jerry Rasmussen

Little Hawk:

Ernest Borgnine in Marty. Want to expand his list to two? How about Ernest Borgnine in Bad Day at Black Rock? Howzabout Three. Or Ernest Borgnine in a lousy movie I like to watch... Escape From New York. Just the premise of escaping from New York is entertaining on it's own part. How about From Here To Eternity? Even Flight of the Phoenix was a good movie. He wasn't the leading man in all of these, to second your comment, but he sure was in Marty.

Jerry


29 Apr 02 - 10:59 PM (#700891)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,johntm

Thonolan

Why was Royal Tanenbaum's fantastic?

I thought it was a comedy but nobody was laughing in the movie house.


29 Apr 02 - 11:29 PM (#700911)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Lepus Rex

johntm, I, too, loved The Royal Tenenbaums, dammit. Hilarious, beautiful film. Yeah, me and my friend were the only ones who seemed to "get" it, but does anyone else matter? I bet you didn't like Rushmore, either! :)

---Lepus Rex


29 Apr 02 - 11:41 PM (#700916)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: SINSULL

Rushmore? GROAN!!!!!!
Bert - you didn't like the Blair Witch Project? We will have to discuss it over toast fried in bacon grease. Miss you, guy.
Mary


29 Apr 02 - 11:57 PM (#700924)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Lepus Rex

GROAN!?! Unless that's a groan of pleasure, you're nuts! ;) Probably my favourite film that year ('98?). Wes Anderson and Owen Wilson (as a writer, not an actor) are friggin' GODS.

That, or I have terrible taste. (No.) :)

---Lepus Rex


30 Apr 02 - 12:05 AM (#700927)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Clinton Hammond

"Escape From New York"

Diss ye NOT, John Carpenter!


30 Apr 02 - 01:33 PM (#701278)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,johntm

lepus rex

you are the second person i've heard say that they laughed at royal tenenbaum aside from tonolan.

never saw or heard of rushmore.


30 Apr 02 - 03:42 PM (#701375)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Lepus Rex

Now, johntm, did you count my friend? She laughed, too. So there's 4 of us. :)

Oh, another addition: Any Tom Cruise movie where he's "the best." (Bartender, pilot, farmer, agent, etc.)

---Lepus Rex


30 Apr 02 - 04:14 PM (#701410)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,skippy

the sound of music!


30 Apr 02 - 04:29 PM (#701425)
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From: AliUK

Re: Mel Gibson. His only reason for making "Braveheart"and "The Patriot"was to bash the British. For some unknown reason he hates Brits and that is why he was associated with the too biggest box office abortions that have ever existed. That's why the "heroes" for both films were cleaned up, sanitized, steam cleaned. So the Brits could look even dirtier than they were.


30 Apr 02 - 04:58 PM (#701456)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

Here's another resounding vote for "The Sound of Music"! Yech! I hate all the songs in it too.

Doh! A beer...a glass of beer. Ray...bring me another beer... Me...the guy that wants the beer... etc. (Homer Simpson's version, much better)

I wasn't aware that Mel Gibson hates the Brits... Odd. Maybe they raped his mother in a past life or something?

- LH


30 Apr 02 - 05:22 PM (#701473)
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From: Celtic Soul

Dough, the stuff that buys my beer

Ray, the guy who pours my beer

Me, the guy who drinks my beer

Far, a long way to the John

So, I'll have another beer

La, I think I'll have a beer

Tea, no thanks I'll have a beer

And that will bring us back to Dough, dough, dough, dough...

Thanks John Davis and Spencer Humm for bringing this wonderfully enlivening parody of that old and stale song to many a Faire goer for a lot of years now.


30 Apr 02 - 06:08 PM (#701502)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,johntm

lepus forgot your friend. the other person probably also was with his friend, add tonolan. there are at least 5 of you. someone told me once you can never get at why one person thinks something is funny and another does not. so maybe i will never know why that movie is funny.

johntm


30 Apr 02 - 07:01 PM (#701549)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Gareth

Now is not Mel Gibson from OZ ??

If so I can only think that he has read Hughes's "The Fatal Shore" once to often !

Gareth
And we'll see you in Botany Bay


30 Apr 02 - 08:56 PM (#701618)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Celtic Soul

Mel Gibson was born in the US, emmigrated to Oz with his parents when a young lad, and returned to the US after "Mad Max" fame to take a stab at Hollyweird.


01 May 02 - 04:46 PM (#702354)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST

Soul, the girls in the choir are going to love our new scales exercise, "Dough-Ray-Me"! LOL!


01 May 02 - 10:18 PM (#702535)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Celtic Soul

:::giggle!:::

Yeah, aint it a hoot?? I forgot one part however: "Ray, the guy who pours my beer (shouting) THANKS RAY!"

I'll pass along your kudos to the lads.


01 May 02 - 11:02 PM (#702551)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

BTW, I thing that "Death To Smoochy" should probably get mention on this thread, although I have not seen it. I was warned not to...

Has anyone seen it?

- LH


02 May 02 - 03:52 AM (#702670)
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From: alison

one word........ "anaconda"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mind you any of the ones in that genre.... like "piranha" and what was the one were the alligator grew huge in the sewers and ran throuh a garden party.... probably called "alligator"


slainte

alison


02 May 02 - 11:52 PM (#703411)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Thonolan

Little Hawk,

Don't believe everything you've heard; see it for yourself. Personally, I loved "Death to Smoochy".

alison,

You're right, "Anaconda" was wretched.


03 May 02 - 12:46 PM (#703695)
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From: Pseudolus

This thread and the actors/actresses thread were actually responsible for my TV selection last night. Ya see, the movie "Forrest Gump" and the actor Tom Hanks have taken a beating in these threads so when I realized that Forrest Gump was on a cable movie station, AND, that it had just started, I had to watch it again. I must say, I still liked it, and Tom Hanks' performance is excellent. Not a popular opinion in this thread but hey, life would suck if we all thought the same.....

Frank


03 May 02 - 01:01 PM (#703705)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Lonesome EJ

Robert Redford's mid-eighties film The Natural had an excellent cast and great camera work. Otherwise, it was probably the most cliche-ridden, unbelievable pile of sentimental horseshit I've ever seen in a sports movie, and that's saying something. From the lightning-struck hickory that produced his bat, to the climactic scene where Redford grits his teeth through a gut-wound to clobber a homer that explodes all of the stadium lighting, this one pulls out all the stops.


03 May 02 - 01:53 PM (#703747)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Amergin

we studied the natural in my high school mythology class...where the teacher pointed out the similarities between it and the greek hero myths...in every way down to the death..at the end....I think it was a pretty good movie...especially seen in that light...it was a fantasy....


03 May 02 - 03:18 PM (#703813)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,DJMac

Following up on someone's mention of Tom Cruise, I found "Top Gun" perfectly annoying. And how did the Academy ever give "Take My Breath Away" the oscar for best song?

Also, any movie that Mystery Science Theater 3000 has gotten around to mocking should be toward the top (or bottom) of any list.

But the very worst movie I've ever seen is a film that came out of Australia in the late 80s called "The Time Guardian". Carrie Fisher lends her extradordinary talents (speaking facetiously) to this awful waste of time. The fact that it's a sci/fi film gone wrong from the start is bad enough, but the scene where the hero's gun jams and he STABS the evil robot to death (among many other scenes of similar quality) is not to be believed! Yet another hour and a half of my life that I'm never getting back.

Drew


03 May 02 - 03:28 PM (#703819)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Thonolan

Pseudolus.

I know plenty of people who loved Forrest Gump {including myself). I've personally never met anyone who claimed to hate it...

I'm not sure what's going on in this group.


04 May 02 - 09:07 AM (#704180)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: C-flat

How about "Eyes Wide Shut". I wish I'd kept mine shut! Another film, during which I started losing the will to live, was "Midnight in the garden of good and evil" I expected better from Eastwood and Spacey!


04 May 02 - 11:55 AM (#704243)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Mickey191

The Far Country-Cruise & Kidman twas horrendus. The Lives & Loves of a She Devil-Roseanne Barr & Meryl Streep, Can't figure why she agreed to make this piece of dreck. Going back 30 yrs. Butterfield 8-Liz Taylor & Eddie. Castle Keep-Burton (I think) God awful. Titanic was terrible, but the English Patient was a Minus 5 star.


04 May 02 - 04:10 PM (#704367)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Amergin

didn't much care for dancing at lunnassa either...


05 May 02 - 12:20 PM (#704767)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Celtic Soul

:::giggle!!:::

Don't mince words, EJ, tell us what you *really* think!

From the looks of it, I may be one of the only ones who did not love or hate Forrest Gump. I thought it an OK piece of work, but nothing to write home about.


06 May 02 - 02:48 AM (#705082)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Little Hawk

I also thought Forrest Gump was QUITE good. I agree that Castle Keep was a very poor war film. So was another one called Battleground...the most tedious treatment imaginable of the aftermath of the Battle of the Bulge. Oh yeah, and Battle of the Bulge was a piece of very inaccurate nonsense as well...pity they used all those Patton tanks to portray Tigers...they don't look even vaguely similar...and the script was terrible.

- LH


24 Nov 02 - 06:05 PM (#834090)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Jeri

Please note I refreshed a thread from last spring.

Now, for the reason. In an amazing stroke of irony, the Sci-Fi channel is suspending its "Giant Mutant Monster" craze to bring us...

...Braveheart.

Yes, it's "Mad Macs, Woad Warrior." On the SCI-FI channel.
You think they did it on purpose? (Maybe they re-shot the ending and a giant crocodile or land shark eats all the bad guys so Wallace doesn't get killed several times?)


24 Nov 02 - 06:15 PM (#834096)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: ballpienhammer

all Adam Sandler flicks suck!


24 Nov 02 - 06:34 PM (#834106)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Hollowfox

Now Jeri, where else can you see Mel Gibson get drawn and quartered onscreen? And Patrick McGoohan did a good job as Edward Longshanks.


24 Nov 02 - 06:48 PM (#834115)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Sorcha

Love Story
Soldier
nuff said


24 Nov 02 - 07:15 PM (#834128)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Gareth

Nope - 6 months later my views ain't changed - Worst Movie is still :-

"OBJECTIVE BURMA"



Gareth


24 Nov 02 - 07:23 PM (#834137)
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From: Bat Goddess

I agree with Jeri -- "Braveheart" is probably one of the worst films as far as history goes -- to be done in the past 10 years. Both Curmudgeon and I screamed at it scene by scene when we watched it. There was NO excuse for such sloppy history!!! It's just plain wrong.

Linn


24 Nov 02 - 07:29 PM (#834139)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Jeri

It seems the Sci-Fi channel is out of "scary monster" mode and now into "macho men wearing leather and yelling a lot" mode.

Hollowfox, I like the movie as a work of complete fiction. The thing that bugs me is that they had this amazing true story to work with. They managed to change history and actually make it less dramatic. And for some reason, the end does NOT get easier to take the more times I see it. Probably because that part is roughly the way the real Wallace was killed. Aside from my problems with the re-writing of known history the movie's just too sad.

ballpienhammer, a big YES to Adam Sandler. There are a few other male stars in the same category whose names I seem to have happily forgotten. They'd all be good playing Gilligan in the big-screen re-make of Gilligan's Island. Not THAT would be a moronic movie!


24 Nov 02 - 07:42 PM (#834143)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: GUEST,Tom Hamilton

The film that I hate most of all is Grease, I won't even listen to the songs on radio, or televison or have anything to with it.I was forced to watched it 6 times in one week, and then I was forced to watch Grease 2 as well, twice I think.
So I just wish that they never made those bloody pictures.
Even now I angry at even writing about them.
FUCK!!!!!


24 Nov 02 - 07:45 PM (#834145)
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From: GUEST,Tom Hamilton

And another thing I remeber about that picture was that they brought out a record, and my niece Laraa used play it all the time when I was baby sitting her


24 Nov 02 - 09:03 PM (#834191)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Bee-dubya-ell

I don't know about all-time stinkers because I tend to forget the names of bad books and bad movies, but one that was seen recently enough to still make me cringe is "Training Day". Most cop movies take some liberties with generally accepted police procedure, but even the "Dirty Harry" movies paid more attention to it than "Training Day". In one scene the cops kill a drug dealer, cut the floor out of his kitchen with a chainsaw, unearth a large trunk full of money, and shoot one of their own team members to make it look like there was a gun battle. Then while the ambulance is taking the wounded cop away the two main characters get in their cop car and drive on off to their next episode. No reports to fill out. No internal investigators to talk with. No need to explain the big hole in the guy's kitchen floor.

I know all about suspension of disbelief, but this one stretched it to the breaking point.

Bruce


25 Nov 02 - 02:31 AM (#834297)
Subject: RE: BS: Most moronic movie that you HATE!
From: Cluin

Watched "Nurse Betty" tonight on cable with my girlfriend. Her teenaged son told us beforehand that it "sucked", but his taste is pretty questionable at the best of times.

Who'd've thought he'd be right?


What about a moronic movie you LIKED?

"Legend of Boggy Creek".... the stupidest thing ever set to celluloid. Halfway through, it goes from terrible cheap documentary to terrible cheap docu-drama. And I LOVED it. Funny as hell!

Especially the soundtrack... crappy songs about local characters and "the creature" done by some second cousin of the director or something. All I know is there were a lot of "Crabtrees" in the closing credits.

Another self-consciously shlocky film but with a bigger budget: "Tremors" A classic.


25 Nov 02 - 02:39 AM (#834304)
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From: Cluin

Okay, since this place IS a music-related forum (right?) I just HAD to find an example of the corny songs fromm the above-mentioned movie. This from the creature's theme song:

"Here, the sulfur river flows,
rising when the storm cloud blows,
this is where the creature goes,
lurking in the land he knows.

Perhaps, he dimly wonders why,
is there no other such as I?
To love, to touch before I die,
To listen to my lonely cry."

Sort brings a tear to your arsehole, don't it?