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Origin: Cumberland Road

04 May 02 - 07:57 PM (#704475)
Subject: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.

Can anyone tell me who wrote "Cumberland Road"? Is it a trad Irish song, or something more recent? I can find no reference to it anywhere (no lyrics in DT either).

yours, Peter T.


04 May 02 - 09:10 PM (#704493)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

Can you tell us more about the song? I see a song called Cumberland Gap. There are several threads on the song. You might want to check on those threads. The song is also in the DT database.


04 May 02 - 09:47 PM (#704512)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: masato sakurai

Found no info nor lyrics so far, but it's on 40 Favourite Irish Songs.

~Masato


05 May 02 - 08:55 AM (#704682)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.

No, it's an Irish song, about a girl met on the Cumberland Road. The "40 Favourite Songs" album masato refers to is where I heard it (a crummy album by a bunch called "The Boys of the Isle"), but the song has a nice quality to it. It has the sound -- I don't know why, intuition perhaps, of being a modern fake old Irish song of the "Fields of Athenry" genre.

yours, Peter T.


05 May 02 - 02:01 PM (#704799)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: paddymac

PeterT. - There has been a good bit of discussion here on "The Fields of Athenry," the gist of which seems to be that the "song" credited to Pete St John is no more than an arrangement with some altered lyrics (primarily the chorus) of a Dublin broadsheet from the 1880s. I did and do like the song, but have no great respect for people who seek to take such material, tweak it a bit, and call it their own. Cheap.


06 May 02 - 09:02 AM (#705172)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.

Help!?


06 May 02 - 11:19 AM (#705241)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

paddymac, it was determined in one of those previous threads that Pete St. John IS the author of that song. The ersatz printer named by the person who put up the web-site was proven to not exist. That web-site shouldn't be still active.


06 May 02 - 11:31 AM (#705247)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.

This is not a thread about the Fields of Athenry! yours, Peter T.


06 May 02 - 10:24 PM (#705662)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

No, but you mentioned it in a previous message. I was replying to Paddymac's message.


07 May 02 - 05:47 AM (#705781)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: greg stephens

I would like to nominate Cumberland (with patriotic pride) as the English county featured most often in song/tune titles. I can think of Cumberland Road, Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Reel( 2 different tunes), Bonny Cumberland, Cumberland Nelly, Canny Old Cumberland, Cumberland March, Cumberland Mountain Bear Chase ( I appreciate some might consider the American and Irish entries cheating, but it's the actual name I'm talking about). But I have a strong feeling Yorkhire and Lancashire could both quite probably match this. Any takers?


07 May 02 - 06:24 AM (#705797)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Nigel Parsons

Greg: this probably requires a separate thread, but my first thoughts are of:
"Washington & Lincoln"
"The Surrey with a fringe on top"

Nigel


07 May 02 - 06:49 AM (#705812)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: GUEST,Paul

Greg,

In answer to your query, there's:

The Lancashire Reel
Lancashire Clog Dance
Lancashire Quadrilles
A Lancashire Carol
Old Lancashire Hornpipe
The Lancashire lass
The Lancashire witches
Lancashire tragedy
The Lancashire heroes
The Lancashire lad
Lancashire Dick
Lancashire's glory
The Lancashire emigrant's farewell
The Lancashire lady's wedding
The Lancashire lovers
Lancashire miners

For starters...

Paul


07 May 02 - 06:54 AM (#705815)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: catspaw49

Well PT, that should sum it up for you huh? Yeah, that's the answer all right.............

Spaw


07 May 02 - 06:56 AM (#705816)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: GUEST

Catspaw criticises thread drift!

Will wonders never cease...


07 May 02 - 07:30 AM (#705832)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: greg stephens

Guest Paul: are you clever with computers? Couldyou transfer your Lancahire list to my new "melodious counties" thread.


07 May 02 - 08:56 AM (#705859)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.

Thread abandonment, more like it. First time I have ever stumped the Mudcat, and on something that I thought would be answered within a minute from the massed ranks of the Irishry here abundant. Bizarre. yours, Peter T.


07 May 02 - 10:04 AM (#705903)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Uncle_DaveO

Lincoln and Liberty Too
Lincolnshire Poacher

Dave Oesterreich


07 May 02 - 03:43 PM (#706137)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: artbrooks

I assume you don't mean "Church on Cumberland Road". In the unlikely event that you do, that's a country-western song by Shenandoah (according to AltaVista). Otherwise, can't help you.


08 May 02 - 02:17 PM (#706829)
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.

Does the name Russell Mills mean anything? yours, Peter T.


13 Jul 08 - 10:24 AM (#2387760)
Subject: RE: Origin: Cumberland Road
From: GUEST,Mario

I am unable to find the lyrics of Cumberland Road and my English is not good enough to catch all the The Boys of the Isle(or Original
Irish Boys)sing. Can anybody help?


11 Apr 09 - 01:34 AM (#2609051)
Subject: RE: Origin: Cumberland Road
From: Jim Dixon

Lyrics to CUMBERLAND ROAD have been posted here, in another thread.