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Lyr Req: Hare in the Corn

20 Apr 98 - 05:37 PM (#26068)
Subject: Hare in the Corn
From:

looking for lyrics

20 Apr 98 - 05:48 PM (#26071)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From: Bruce O.

Never heard of lyrics. There's more than one tune of that title, of which I think the earliest is of the 1740's or 50's in Oswald's Caledonian Pocket Companion. The Irlsh also have an old one of that title. See Scots and Irish music indexes on my website. www.erols.com/olsonw

20 Apr 98 - 06:12 PM (#26078)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From: Jon W.

On Planxty's "Cold Blow and the Rainy Night" album there is a set of dance tunes which feature some sung verses (by Johnny Moynihan). I think this may be one of them. I'll check to see and post words if it is.

27 Apr 98 - 10:52 AM (#26603)
Subject: ADD: The Frost Is All Over
From: Jon W.

The set of dance tunes I was thinking of are jigs. To quote from the liner notes: "The set of double jigs starts with The Hare in the Corn, which is followed by The Frost Is All Over. This jig has some words which we learned from a recording of Mrs. Elizabeth Cronin of Co. Cork. We've only heard a few dance tunes with words and we'd like to hear more."

So it appears that the words I have are not the ones sought by the originator of this thread. Nevertheless since I took the time to type them in I will post them:

THE FROST IS ALL OVER (Jig)
(Sung by Johnny Moynihan with Planxty)

What would you do if the kettle boiled over?
What would I do only fill it again,
And what would you do if the cow ate the clover?
What would I do only set it again.

The praties are dug and the frost is all over,
Katie lie over close to the wall,
How would you like to be married to a soldier,
Kitty lie over close to the wall.

The praties are boilin' the hare and the rose,
And Kitty lie over close to the wall,
You to be drunk an me to be sober,
Kitty lie over close to the wall.

27 Apr 98 - 12:18 PM (#26610)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From: Bruce O.

From theme codes on my website it looks like CPC's "Hare in the corn" only has a bit different beginning than most Irish copies. "The Frost is all over" seem to be different in Stanford-Petrie (SP) and Joyce's OIFMS (PJ4). If I get time I'll take a closer look at both tunes.

27 Apr 98 - 01:09 PM (#26613)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From: Bruce O.

I only copied the 1st strain of "The Hare in the corn" from CPC, OFPC1 and HNS. Bunting's later one, 1840, has been reprinted.

X:1
T:The Frost is all over. Hornpipe
S:Joyce OIFMS, #83
Q:80
L:1/4
M:C
K:A dorian
e/d/|cc/d/ c/B/A/G/|A/G/E/F/ G/A/B/d/|c/d/c/A/
B/G/E/G/|A/B/c/d/ee/d/|c/B/c/d/ c/B/A/G/|AEGc/B/|A/B/A/G/
E/D/E/G/|AAA::E|A/B/c/d e/d/B/d/|efge/d/|e/a/a/c'/
b/a/g/b/|a/g/e/d/ea/f/|g/e/d/B/ c/B/A/G/|D/G/A/B/ce/B/|A/B/A/G/
E/D/E/G/|AAA:|]

X:2
T:The Frost is all over. Set in Armagh
S:Stanford-Petrie #850
Q:80
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:D
A|dgf edB|Ad F (FE)D|FABA2A|Beee2A|def edB|Ad F{F/}
E2D|FABA2A|Bddd2||d|fga agf|gab bag|(fg).a agf|gee e2g|fga agf|gab
bag|fed efg|fddd2|]

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27 Apr 98 - 01:18 PM (#26615)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From: dick greenhaus

The verses are standard floaters used for jig tunes. See the Praties Are Du

27 Apr 98 - 02:25 PM (#26628)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From: Bruce O.

It's the 2nd tune above that's the usual "[The Praties are dug and] The Frost is all over". Irish titles cross referenced in my Irish tune title index now, and 1st (ABC above) separated from the others.

27 Apr 98 - 05:16 PM (#26647)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From: Jon W.

Both tunes are nice, Bruce. The second one is indeed the one on the Planxty album (more or less).

27 Apr 98 - 10:15 PM (#26693)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From: Bruce O.

I don't know wherre Joyce got his name for the first one, and I can't find it under another name in the Irish collections listed on my website. In the same book, #516, is a version of the 2nd with the descriptive title, 'Air'. This reverses the usual situtation where many tunes 'Untitled' in the Stanford-Petrie collection have titles in Joyce's collection.

03 Jul 99 - 06:19 PM (#92104)
Subject: Hare in the Corn
From: Wind

Dia Dhuit!~

I am trying to find the lyrics to The Hare in the Corn. Ummmmm, help?

03 Jul 99 - 06:28 PM (#92107)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From:

The tune can be found as early as c 1715, but I've never heard of lyrics for it.

24 Jul 99 - 04:23 PM (#98896)
Subject: Hare in the Corn
From: celtoi@hotmail.com

Dia Dhuit!~

I am trying to find the lyrics to The Hare in the Corn. Ummmmm, help?

28 Jul 99 - 10:02 AM (#100119)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From: Wolfgang

'Hares in the old plantation' is the nearest title I know of. Have you more words?

Wolfgang

28 Jul 99 - 06:05 PM (#100285)
Subject: RE: Hare in the Corn
From:

In the Early Irish and Country Dance 2 tune indexes at www.erols.com/olsonw are listed about 15 copies of the tune "The Hare in the Corn", ranging from c 1715 to 1840, but what is your evidence that there was ever a song of that title? I've seen none.