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27 May 02 - 02:01 PM (#718199) Subject: Tunes and chords From: GUEST Anyone have any web sights fir jigs and reels that have chord symbols? Cheers, Monahan |
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27 May 02 - 07:55 PM (#718427) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Joe Offer Hi, Monahan - try JC's ABC Tune Finder (click) and Web-Wide ABC Index. If you use a program like ABCMUS you can extract chords for the tunes. -Joe Offer- |
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27 May 02 - 08:04 PM (#718436) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Jon Freeman Not that I can think off hand Monahan but there must be some. If you are looking for chord diagrams rather than just chord names, what instrument and tuning are you looking for? Jon |
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27 May 02 - 09:14 PM (#718477) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: masato sakurai There're scores & ABC notations (but without chords) HERE (IrishTunes.net). ~Masato |
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28 May 02 - 05:42 PM (#719034) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: wysiwyg Tunes at Ed Hetzler's site from the Fiddler's Fakebook, and the printed book has chords. Another good print source is called "Portman's." Have not found buying info yet, just saw it in use at Clarion Folk College. ~Susan |
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28 May 02 - 05:58 PM (#719039) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: GUEST,hilary, not logged in Hi Monahan There are hundreds of sites for lyrics/scores/ABC, but very little folk music with chords anywhere.(Pop or rock - no problem). - & since I have been learning the guitar, believe me I have been looking. JC's is the usual one cited - but that has very few tunes with chords. Individuals here have been very kind responding to specific requests. I'm not sure why it's the case - maybe guitarists all assume the rest can easily put chords to tunes. Personally I can write out a tune I know - but putting chords (outside the basic I IV V) I find much harder. Good luck - I would appreciate it if you pass on any you find. Hilary |
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28 May 02 - 06:27 PM (#719046) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Hilary Hi again, Just had a look at my bookmarked pages - the best I found : The Prof's Traditional Pages - the site has quite a few jigs/reels. Hilary |
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28 May 02 - 06:28 PM (#719047) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Hilary Hi again, Just had a look at my bookmarked pages - the best I found : The Prof's Traditional Pages - the site has quite a few jigs/reels. Hilary |
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28 May 02 - 06:30 PM (#719048) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Hilary Hi again, Just had a look at my bookmarked pages - the best I found : The Prof's Traditional Pages - the site has quite a few jigs/reels. Hilary |
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28 May 02 - 06:33 PM (#719051) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Hilary Hi again, Having looked at my bookmarked pages, the best site I have found is The Prof's Traditional Pages which has quite a few jigs/reels bye Hilary |
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28 May 02 - 06:36 PM (#719057) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Hilary oops - sorry ! |
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29 May 02 - 04:49 PM (#719749) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: M.Ted When you do a search at JC's ABC tune finder, download the PDF, GIF, or PNG files--generally at least one, and usually most or all with have chords above the staff-- |
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30 May 02 - 12:49 AM (#719954) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: michaelr Problem is, chording is non-traditional in Irish music, so there really aren't any "right" chords for any given tune, other than, say, "it's in D". Beyond that, it's pretty much up to the accompanist, and very much a matter of personal taste, whether you want to stick to I-IV-V patterns or play substitutions. To me, that's part of the fun. Start with the basics and experiment from there! Also, most guitarists accompany in DADGAD tuning, which makes chords even more ambiguous. Cheers, Michael |
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01 Jun 02 - 08:37 AM (#721032) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: GUEST,Monahan Thanks to all. Just looking for some basic chords to give me a basic outline, realizing there's alot of room to roam... |
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01 Jun 02 - 02:39 PM (#721185) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Terry K Guest Monahan - go to the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) website and follow the leads through "folk" to their "Virtual Session". They have dozens of Jigs, Reels, Airs, Hornpipes etc, all with full notation and chords. They are all played by a session band so you can play along with them, over and over. It's fantastic and every good folkie should take a look. Have fun, Terry |
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01 Jun 02 - 02:48 PM (#721190) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Terry K OK I was being lazy - I've now looked up the BBC address, it's at bbc.co.uk/radio2/folk/acoustic_club. Maybe I can even do a clicky for it. |
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01 Jun 02 - 02:50 PM (#721191) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Terry K No - it seems I couldn't, so you'll need to go in longhand. Cheers, Terry |
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01 Jun 02 - 02:54 PM (#721192) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Jon Freeman bbc.co.uk/radio2/folk/acoustic_club. Thanks Terry. I should have thought of that one... Jon |
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01 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM (#721272) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: greg stephens MichaelR says chording is non-traditional in Irish music.Well, chording goes as far back as the music has been recorded, for a start; unlike the current fashion for DADGAD playing which I would guess comes from the London folk scene of the 60's.Anda quick trawl through O'Neill's, for example, will show that the most common way of constructing the B part of a fiddle tune is to follow the exact harmonic strucure of the A part. Which would seem an odd way of going aboutthings, unless the musicians were thinking of the harmonic structure of what they were playing.I would go further, and say that traditional Irish fiddle tunes without an obvious and clear harmonic structure (by which I mean easy to put piano or guitar chords to) are extremely rare. Wonderful, beautiful, sure, but very very rare.Irish music, as you would expect,fits smack bang into the northwest European tradition of dance music. Overwhelmingly harmonic( for the last few hundred years, obviously I am not talking of the distant past). |
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01 Jun 02 - 07:26 PM (#721294) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: michaelr Well, Greg, surely "obvious and clear" must be seen as relative terms, depending on the experience of the accompanist. I inferred from our guest Monahan's query that he may be new to accompanying tunes; and I remember well that, when I first started on the same endeavour, much of the time the harmonic structure was anything but obvious or clear to me. As far as chordal accompaniment, the piano may go further back than the guitar, but my information is that guitar did not become popular in Irish trad playing until the 1950s/60s. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers, Michael |
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01 Jun 02 - 07:51 PM (#721307) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: michaelr Jon, your link seems to have some extraneous html in it that makes it look like part of mudcat. Michael |
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01 Jun 02 - 08:47 PM (#721331) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Jon Freeman Not that I can see from here Michael but you could be (and most likely are) right... give me a better "clue" as to what you are seeing (not meaning to be rude there, it is me who is not understanding) and I'll look into it.. and maybe against all odds learn something (about my links).... Jon (hoping you see some humour in me and my failings - I have to live with them!!!) |
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01 Jun 02 - 08:57 PM (#721335) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Noreen http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/folk/acoustic_club/. |
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01 Jun 02 - 09:03 PM (#721336) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Jon Freeman Yep, I see now - thanks NK an MR! Jon |
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01 Jun 02 - 09:06 PM (#721337) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Jon Freeman (Noreen is NK and MR is michaelr) Jon |
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02 Jun 02 - 12:12 AM (#721400) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Phil Cooper If you are interested in standard tuning (for guitar) accompanying chords for fiddle tunes, I would recommend Robin Williamson's fiddle tune book (published by Oak Publications originally, but probably still available somewhere). I agree that you can use different chords to great effect, depending on what you want the tune to sound like. I'm not sure if any of the Williamson book is online. I primarily accompany tunes in DADGAD. But, that said, in 1982 I saw a concert with Dave Swarbrick and Simon Nicol and was really impressed by Nicol's backing of Swarbrick. He was using standard tuning (he did dropped D for a couple of his solos). His use of relative minor chords, and some quick changes were effective. Nicol's role was playing backing guitar, but watching him, you realized he was doing some amazing stuff, without getting in the way of the tunes. |
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02 Jun 02 - 11:36 AM (#721609) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: Hilary Following up wsiwyg's suggestion of Ed Metzler I came across the Flatpicking Tablature Database .... which has jigs/reels & so may be useful if you are interested in tabs/flatpicking .... Hilary |
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02 Jun 02 - 01:52 PM (#721666) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: GUEST,otto mann http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Info/RRTuneBk/Alltunes/country.html http://members.aol.com/kitchengal/giftunes |
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02 Jun 02 - 02:16 PM (#721674) Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels? From: pavane Just a small reminder that my program HARMONY can put chords to abc format tunes, in modes as well as major keys. Download it from My site, www.greenhedges.com |