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02 Jun 02 - 09:59 AM (#721543) Subject: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: GUEST,Peace Matriot Now there's a great one, eh? In his major foreign policy speech at Westpoint's graduation, Bush declares he will kick some terrorist butt, and "will work to impose a universal moral clarity between good and evil." Unilaterally and preemptively, no less.
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02 Jun 02 - 10:26 AM (#721572) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Bobert C- student's rule the world... Forget who said it but, hey, we're seeing that now. Except in Junior's case, he probably had to cheat to get the C minuses... |
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02 Jun 02 - 10:54 AM (#721587) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Peter T. "Nothing is more terrifying than ignorance in action." -- Goethe |
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02 Jun 02 - 12:01 PM (#721623) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Art Thieme People will die for an idea providing that idea isn't quite clear to them. Art Thieme |
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02 Jun 02 - 12:10 PM (#721626) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: kendall Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. |
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02 Jun 02 - 12:26 PM (#721636) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Amos I submit that a universal moral clarity about good and evil is actually a possibility. It might, in fact, be part of our own purpose in existing, huh? Naaaah. I don't think Bush is the man to do it though. Wish old Tom Jefferson was still around to help out! Some bushes burn, some bushes just strut. A |
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02 Jun 02 - 03:54 PM (#721728) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Don Firth I think humankind has been working on this one for several millenia now. Lotsa luck, George. . . . Don Firth |
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02 Jun 02 - 04:17 PM (#721739) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: wysiwyg I think a moral clarity that Good and Evil are actually different would be a concept it would be theoretically possible to work towards... but past that we human beans will keep seeing things differently due to our fascination wiht our own ways of saying things that are essentially the same things said differently. *G* ?Claro, si? ~S~ |
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02 Jun 02 - 04:19 PM (#721740) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Lonesome EJ Maybe he meant "mortal celerity"? |
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02 Jun 02 - 04:38 PM (#721749) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: GUEST Or maybe he meant moral celery, or maybe it was moral broccoli, or maybe... Oh never mind. Ghost |
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02 Jun 02 - 04:47 PM (#721755) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Amos Yeah -- isn't moral celery a kind of Bush? Maybe it was just family news? A |
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02 Jun 02 - 04:56 PM (#721761) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Lonesome EJ I hear moral celery gives you your vitamins and your ethics in one fresh and tasty snack! |
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02 Jun 02 - 05:03 PM (#721766) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Amos I think I hear a song coming on -- maybe a Mad Ave jingle sorta thing -- "Gimme that mooooral celery, mooooral celery...." LOL!! A |
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02 Jun 02 - 05:18 PM (#721772) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Tinker Nobody's Dirty Business, how I eat my celery Nobody's business but mine, With soup or sauce or peanut butter, As long as we all love each other, No body's business but my own..... Thanks for turning a harummmp into a great giggle.... Tinker |
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02 Jun 02 - 06:19 PM (#721790) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: catspaw49 Moral CELERY????MORAL CELERY????? Awfergawdsakes.....Everyone knows that Celery is amoral! I even have proof! Just look at what effect Celery can have on elastic and tell me it's a moral vegetable.....I dare you! I mean it may be okay by itself, but when combined with gravity, the effects of Celery on elastic are.........well.........Here...just read through this for yourself!!! Spaw |
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02 Jun 02 - 06:54 PM (#721809) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Lonesome EJ Well, Spaw, I...um...let's just say I bookmarked the site and leave it at that. |
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02 Jun 02 - 08:04 PM (#721839) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Ebbie No, no, no- it's moral broccoli that Bush senior can't stand. |
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02 Jun 02 - 08:09 PM (#721841) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: catspaw49 Ebbie, he's an idiot. Broccoli has NO powers whatsoever on elastic. Spaw |
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02 Jun 02 - 09:53 PM (#721881) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Ebbie pah! Men! It's the text on that site that is offensive. Anyone can see that her hand is NOT at her crotch (and somehow the writer, obviously male,) makes 'crotch' sound like a bad word), it is tugging at her dress. Text like that is what brings out the - what's the counterpart of misogynist?- in me. Now back to the celery/broccoli controversy: I agree that celery is closely related to celerity so it is not unexpected that some get the two confused. More subtly, on the other hand and with not quite as obvious a connection, it is morally certain that broccoli is green therefore staining its cooking water a translucent color that shows a degree of clarity. |
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02 Jun 02 - 10:32 PM (#721894) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: CarolC Frahmage indeed. |
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03 Jun 02 - 12:30 AM (#721962) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: alanabit Looking to Bush for moral clarity is a bit like making King Herod the patron saint of children... |
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03 Jun 02 - 12:42 AM (#721966) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: paddymac Jeez, 'Spaw. Nothing like that ever happened to me back when I was driving a bus. I might have stayed in that honorable profession if such things had been sufficiently common to be considered "percs," or even occasional treats. |
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03 Jun 02 - 04:59 AM (#722016) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Hrothgar Does somebody get a salary for drawing stuff like that? p.s. "Moral clarity" might be a good idea, but GWB ain't the man for it. |
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03 Jun 02 - 02:17 PM (#722199) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: annamill You know, it could be worse. He could be the Marques(sp) De Sade. Think of the morals he'd be implimenting then. Huh! Annamill(wideeyedandnoddinghead) |
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03 Jun 02 - 02:19 PM (#722203) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: annamill Gives a whole new meaning to that word 'impose'. I'll say it again. He scares the hell out of me. L.A. |
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03 Jun 02 - 02:21 PM (#722206) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: mousethief I think that if Bushlet ate enough moral celery, perhaps he could glean therefrom some moral fiber. Heck, he's got to get it somewhere, right? Alex |
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03 Jun 02 - 02:24 PM (#722210) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: alanabit Maybe. I know what I'd feed him though... |
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03 Jun 02 - 02:31 PM (#722214) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: mousethief Pray tell! Alex |
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03 Jun 02 - 03:11 PM (#722227) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: GUEST,Moral man If Old Tom Jefferson was around today he'd get thrown in jail for raping that 15 year old gal. |
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03 Jun 02 - 03:33 PM (#722245) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Deda Ebbie -- technically or at least etymologically the opposite of misogynist (hatred of women) is misanthrope (hatred of men) -- but that has garnered the meaning of hatred of humanity, so there isn't any word for just hatred of males, no gender-based opposite of misogyny. "Male bashing" is not really the term that's needed, either. If Bush could gain moral fiber from moral celery -- I wonder what he HAS been eating? Maybe he's on the Reagan school diet-- the vegetable is ketchup. (Does anyone remember that Reagan declared ketchup a vegetable for purposes of public school lunches?) That might account for his moral constipation. LOL
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03 Jun 02 - 05:41 PM (#722333) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: GUEST Not enough pretzels. |
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03 Jun 02 - 06:16 PM (#722351) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: alanabit Mousethief, I'm not going to tell you what I would put in Bushlet's mouth. I'll give you a couple of hints though. It would smell rather like what comes out of it and it would make yer roses grow.... |
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03 Jun 02 - 07:30 PM (#722383) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: mousethief Alanabit: aaaaaaaaah. Deda: Hatred of male human beings is "misandry." From the greek "andros" = male human being. Misanthrope comes from anthropos = human being of any sex. (Any sex? Why yes, thank you. Two lumps.) Alex |
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03 Jun 02 - 08:08 PM (#722409) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Ebbie "two lumps" LOL, Mout'ief. Misandry- good one. But I've heard of highandry more often. |
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03 Jun 02 - 10:17 PM (#722500) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Deda Mousethief: "andros" is the same greek term as "anthros" in misanthrope, and likewise anthropology. The shift from "d" to "th" happens commonly, linguistically. Some languages don't have one or the other. So misandry and misanthropy are etymologically the same -- hatred of men with "men" meaning humans. Although I don't know quite why there's a "P" in misanthrope. Anyone know? Sorry about the thread creep, all. |
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03 Jun 02 - 10:39 PM (#722514) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: InOBU Aba Eban described the Nazi state as trying to create a world without uncertainty. Cheers Larry |
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04 Jun 02 - 11:11 AM (#722807) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: GUEST,polaitaly Deda, I think Mousethief is right- if i remember well andros is the genitive ( genitive?) of "anér, andròs" ,man, male; while àntrophos is the word for Human (more or less). I had ancient greek in school - but it was a looong time ago. |
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04 Jun 02 - 11:59 AM (#722823) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: mousethief There is a "p" in "misanthrope" because it comes from "anthropos" which is the Greek word for "human being." As I said, above. See also anthroPology, anthroPomorphic, etc. What do they teach them in these schools? And Guest Polaitaly is right and I was wrong: the nominative of the word for a male human being is "aner" -- "andr-" is the root which shows up in other cases and in compound words made from this word. The most obvious cognate is the name "Andrew" which means "good man." Alex |
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04 Jun 02 - 11:59 AM (#722824) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Mousethief is indeed right, and misandry is an accepted term, even if it is a belated coining based on misogyny. Regarding misanthropy, it wa |
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04 Jun 02 - 12:03 PM (#722828) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Don't suppose Shrub could impose moral certainty about when my posts are going to be transmitted when I mean them to be? As I was saying, it was said of Jonathan Swift that he loved mankind: it was just people that he hated (or words to that effect). |
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04 Jun 02 - 12:21 PM (#722842) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: mousethief Maybe el Shrubbo meant he was going to impose a universal moral cHarity? Like the Sisters of Mercy, only more universal? I think he would be a good candidate to start a charity to help people kick their cocaine habit, for example. Alex |
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04 Jun 02 - 12:33 PM (#722851) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar People educated by the holy nuns in the good old days when corporal punishment was the norm used to say that the Sisters of Mercy have no charity and the Sisters of Charity have no Mercy. Maybe Shrublet was misheard when he said that he plans to impose himself as the Universal Moron Cheerleader. |
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04 Jun 02 - 01:09 PM (#722861) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Lonesome EJ Seriously (for just a second), Bush, for all his high-profile gesturing after the 9-11 Attack, now appears to be almost totally at sea. He seems to have inherited his Dad's problem with "the Vision Thing". His strength is in mustering immediate response to crisis, and I think he did a pretty admirable job in the wake of the attack. Now that the Crisis in the Middle East has suddenly grown more complex, Bin Laden remains uncaptured, interest in the War on Terrorism has flagged, and his advisors are in disagreement about what should be the next move, Bush has become nearly invisible. Now back to our program... |
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04 Jun 02 - 01:16 PM (#722867) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Genie From: Bobert "C- student's rule the world... " Don't forget that today's C-student would've been a D- or F-student in Einstein's day--even in JFK's day.
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04 Jun 02 - 01:19 PM (#722869) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: mousethief LOL! |
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04 Jun 02 - 01:34 PM (#722874) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Don Firth Right, Lonesome EJ. Bush, like many of his confreres, has yet to grasp that, in life, there are few simple solutions. When his simple solution (i.e., if you don't like it, bomb it) doesn't produce the results he thinks it will, he's flummoxed. As I recall, the goal of the Inquisition was moral clarity. Look how wonderful that was. Don Firth |
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04 Jun 02 - 01:42 PM (#722878) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: DougR I guess I could say somethin' but you lefties are having too much fun to interrupt. :>) Hi Alex! I had been wondering what happened to you. I hadn't seen you posting lately. DougR |
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04 Jun 02 - 01:43 PM (#722881) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Genie Don, Isn't that also the goal of the Taliban and so-called "Islamic fundamentalists" in general? BTW, Alex, when I quoted your "...moral fiber..." blurb, I meant to add: "LMAO!" Genie |
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05 Jun 02 - 01:29 AM (#723317) Subject: RE: BS: Bush toimpose a universal moral clarity From: Don Firth True, Genie. And I don't like it when anybody wants to cram their "moral clarity" down my throat. Don Firth |