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TECH: Who is Shorty?

08 Jun 02 - 04:15 AM (#725879)
Subject: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST,Philippa

or should I say "what" - at the bottom of main forum page. also seen on Mudcat search pages


08 Jun 02 - 04:28 AM (#725883)
Subject: RE: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST

See this message


08 Jun 02 - 10:33 AM (#725992)
Subject: RE: Who is Shorty?
From: wysiwyg

There have been some changes since that message was written, but it does give one a general idea.

~S~


08 Jun 02 - 12:14 PM (#726040)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Joe Offer

Some of us havedeveloped personal relationships with the various Mudcat servers. Seems like the majority of Mudcat "regulars" prefer Ragtime. The visitors and newcomers use www.mudcat.org, which usually goes to Shorty. As for myself, I've come to know Loki as a trusted and loyal friend...

But to keep things equitable, I use internal links when posting messages in the Forum. I leave out the http://www.mudcat.org, http://loki.mudcat.org, and http://ragtime.mudcat.org when I post links in the Forum (note, however, that you have to use them when posting in the Help forum, whick is not interlinked with the regular forum)

-Joe Offer-


08 Jun 02 - 12:28 PM (#726046)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: DMcG

Joe: I have noticed that at the bottom of the threads on 'loki' it announces itself as 'shorty' even though 'ragtime' admits it is 'ragtime'. This led me to think that loki was just another name for shorty rather than really a separate machine. Or is it just a mistake on the loki setup?


08 Jun 02 - 01:12 PM (#726058)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Jon Freeman

DMcG, If you try to ping loki and shorty you see the IP address 207.103.108.101 in both cases. There was a time when loki and shorty were separate machines but I don't think that is the case now.

Jon


08 Jun 02 - 01:14 PM (#726060)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: DMcG

I should have tried that

Anyone wnat to break the news to Joe?


08 Jun 02 - 04:45 PM (#726139)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Joe Offer

Well, I haved to admit I have been untrue to Loki lately, and don't know exactly what he's up to. I use the experimental Mudcat...
-Joe-


08 Jun 02 - 06:28 PM (#726190)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Murray MacLeod

Can we all come to an agreement to revert to the original spelling of "seperate", accepted by the OED, as opposed to the new age variation of "separate" ?

Murray


08 Jun 02 - 06:35 PM (#726196)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Amos

New Age? ! Latin? Middle English?

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition.  2000.   separate   SYLLABICATION: sep·a·rate

VERB: Inflected forms: sep·a·rat·ed, sep·a·rat·ing, sep·a·rates

TRANSITIVE VERB: 1a. To set or keep apart; disunite. b. To space apart; scatter: small farms that were separated one from another by miles of open land. c. To sort: separate mail by postal zones. 2. To differentiate or discriminate between; distinguish: a researcher who separated the various ethnic components of the population sample. 3. To remove from a mixture or combination; isolate. 4. To part (a couple), often by decree: She was separated from her husband last year. 5. To terminate a contractual relationship, as military service, with; discharge.

INTRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To come apart. 2. To withdraw: The state threatened to separate from the Union. 3. To part company; disperse. 4. To stop living together as spouses. 5. To become divided into components or parts: Oil and water tend to separate.

ADJECTIVE: (spr-t, sprt)1. Set or kept apart; disunited: Libraries often have a separate section for reference books. 2a. Existing as an independent entity. b. often Separate Having undergone schism or estrangement from a parent body: Separate churches. 3. Dissimilar from all others; distinct: "a policeman's way of being separate from you even when he was being nice" (John le Carré). 4. Not shared; individual: two people who held separate views on the issue. 5. Archaic Withdrawn from others; solitary.

NOUN: (spr-t, sprt) A garment, such as a skirt, jacket, or pair of slacks, that may be purchased separately and worn in various combinations with other garments.

ETYMOLOGY: Middle English separaten, from Latin spartus, past participle of sparre : s-, apart; see s(w)e- in Appendix I + parre, to prepare; see per-1 in Appendix I.


08 Jun 02 - 06:39 PM (#726199)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST

No sure which OED you are using, Murray. In mine, "separate" is the correct spelling.


08 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM (#726202)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Noreen

accepted by the OED, really, Murray? Sorry, but separate is the only spelling accepted in the dictionaries I have consulted.

According to this web design site, seperate is the second most common misspelling on the Internet
(the first being either loose or lose)


08 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM (#726203)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Murray MacLeod

Ohmigod, did I ever screw up there.

Sorry, Amos, and GUEST.

I am now goIng to take another two month absence from Mudcat. The change from Miami humidity to Pitlochry aridity has obviously played havoc with my brain cells.

Murray


08 Jun 02 - 06:51 PM (#726204)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Noreen

*smile*

Put your feet up Murray, I'd say you definitely need it...!


08 Jun 02 - 06:53 PM (#726205)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)

separate from Latin separatus. The OED lists from 1430.


08 Jun 02 - 06:53 PM (#726206)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST,Philippa

Pitlochry is pleasant; great for long low-level walks with all those paths and marked routes. enjoy.


08 Jun 02 - 07:04 PM (#726214)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Noreen

Pitlochry has happy memories for me: the kindly authorities having provided a fish ladder to allow the salmon to swim upstream for spawning, when they built a great dam across the river, we took a liking to the signpost to said tourist attraction.

From then on, the expression dam and fish ladder has been used in moments of extreme annoyance...! :0)


08 Jun 02 - 07:07 PM (#726220)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Jon Freeman

Joe, I thought that using the experimental version would be why you hadn't picked up the changes in loki who used to be my favoruite but now, at least IMO, isn't fairing too well.

Other points that may be noted now by visiting Netcraft and looking at what a site is running is that Ragtime is running Win2000, where as the others report NT - maybe the 2000 combination is more stable? Or maybe shorty gets the bulk of the load?. If my memory is correct, in the days when I loved loki, it didn't even report Windows as the OS but AS-400 whatever that may be. I guess a loss in the cut backs.

On the subject of "Pinging", I discovered the other day that help.mudcat.org and www.cognitivescience.org both report 207.103.108.102 as the IP number so I presume we are looking at virtual server solutions provided by Onstage Media now rather than dedicated machines?

Jon


08 Jun 02 - 07:13 PM (#726223)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Mark Cohen

I thought pitlochry was considered gauche. (From the Old Gaelic, pitte laoghraire, to laugh at [a person's] underarms.)

Aloha,
Mark


08 Jun 02 - 07:13 PM (#726224)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Amos

No sweat Murray! I often get behind a frequent misspelling of my own and convince myself it really is correct until my wife catches me at it!

A


08 Jun 02 - 07:27 PM (#726232)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)

Murray, now that those of us in the elite lexicographical police have tarred and feathered you, here is a little more from the OED. They admit seperate and separat as alternate spellings. In 1513 Bradshaw wrote: "Whan all the officers departed were thens Supposynge the soule seperate from the body." Don't know what he was talking about, but there you are, Murray. A quote from an "authority."


08 Jun 02 - 09:09 PM (#726298)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: CarolC

Loki was my first love for a while there, but he let me down too many times. But Ragtime is almost always there when I need him. (Although it sounds like he's been seeing a hell of a lot of people behind my back.) And now it sounds like Loki and Shorty have gone an gotten married or something. Funny old world.


08 Jun 02 - 10:50 PM (#726327)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)

Tonight I get the message occasionally that Ragtime has been put offline by the server.


08 Jun 02 - 11:10 PM (#726335)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Joe Offer

Hey, but Loki's got a cute name...


09 Jun 02 - 01:29 AM (#726365)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: wysiwyg

We need a Ballad of Loki and Shorty, and how Ragtime (the unsung or at least untitled) rode in time after time to save them from the bad guys (error messages). And their devotees.

~S~


09 Jun 02 - 03:07 AM (#726389)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: DMcG

Loki is a cute name, and easier to spell than yggdrasil and ginnungagap

But Joe - abandoning a long time relationship with loki just because your new love has a prettier face? Shallow, my friend, shallow :-)


15 Jan 03 - 04:42 PM (#867748)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Felipa

I set my homepage to ragtime about a month ago, but this year it always comes up with an error message. Shorty is fine. Has Ragtime been permanently retired? What about Loki?


15 Jan 03 - 05:08 PM (#867776)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: artbrooks

I understand Ragtime and Loki have been retired. I've not been able to connect lately to Shorty. I've had no trouble connecting to plain www.mudcat.org.


15 Jan 03 - 05:14 PM (#867782)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Amos

There's only one machine at present, as far as I know, reached through www.mudcat.org. I think this one surviving machine had to eat the other two in order to stay alive while crossing a desert or something... :>) Maybe Max should change its name to "donner".

A


15 Jan 03 - 05:16 PM (#867783)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST

Max should learn Linux...


15 Jan 03 - 07:27 PM (#867870)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Noreen

GUEST should learn it's boring to repeat things...


16 Jan 03 - 03:25 PM (#868635)
Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: John MacKenzie

Well cut across Shorty, Shorty cut across.
That's what Miss Lucy said.
Giok