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18 Jun 02 - 09:10 AM (#732150) Subject: A Prophecy? From: Fiolar Recently re-reading the book entitled "Rambles in Eirinn" by William Bulfin, I came across the following and I quote. "I was sitting on a green hillside over Dublin with two friends not long since, and one of them told how there are people strong in the belief that a child was born in Ireland a few years ago who is to be the deliverer of the land. Did we laugh? Not we. There are many things at which you do not laugh in Eirinn. Many strange and mystic and glorious things are believed in this hopeful land whose story is so old and sad, but whose heart is still so fresh and young." "So what?" I hear you explain. Just the fact that the series of articles by Bulfin regarding his Irish travels were first published in the South American newspaper the "Southern Cross" in the early 1900's and only published in book form in 1907. Michael Collins would have been a teenager. |
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18 Jun 02 - 03:40 PM (#732398) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: GUEST,John Hernandez First the revisionism, then rehabilitation of Collins, and now his deification! What ever happened to Take It Down from the Mast, Irish Traitors? |
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18 Jun 02 - 03:49 PM (#732401) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: GUEST "so what" exactly. Excuse my language, but you're talking crap, Fiolar |
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18 Jun 02 - 06:09 PM (#732495) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: McGrath of Harlow There were many many others that would have fitted, and Michael Collins would have been the first to say that. |
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19 Jun 02 - 01:53 AM (#732729) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: michaelr Guest, John Hernandez - is that irony? Michael |
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19 Jun 02 - 03:34 AM (#732753) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: greg stephens Not Michael Collins definitely, he was not a barmy nonsense man. Maybe the prophecy bloke wasthinking of Charlie Burgess. Or possibly Pearse.They would fit the style better. |
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19 Jun 02 - 06:18 AM (#732806) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: Declan As far as I know Pearse was born in England and only qualified to play for Ireland under the granny rule. Same is true of Dev (born in New York). There'd be a case to be made for Sean Lemass (born 1899) but that depends on what you think 'deliver the land' might mean. Sounds like more of the Celtic twilight BS that was going on around that time. Even the fact that he calls the country Eirinn (funny spelling) points to that. |
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19 Jun 02 - 08:03 AM (#732856) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: greg stephens Michael Coleman, possibly? |
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19 Jun 02 - 08:12 AM (#732863) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: GUEST Or Michael Fish |
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19 Jun 02 - 08:16 AM (#732864) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: Fiolar Interesting how folks get on the high horse when a passage from a long dead writer is posted. "Guest" - it may be crap but I would suggest that you read the biography of William Bulfinn before rushing into such childish comment and Bulfinn was only reporting what he was told. Declan - he was using the correct form of the word "Eire" when using the preposition "in." |
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19 Jun 02 - 09:59 AM (#732922) Subject: RE: BS: A Prophecy? From: Declan I'd have spelt that in Eireainn myself but that might be a dialect thing. Whether it is gramatically correct or not, it seems a bit odd to include this particular Irish phrase in the middle of something written in English. But I think this piece is of its time. |