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26 Jun 02 - 01:54 PM (#737524) Subject: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Little Hawk Okay, I figure that these are a few good angles... A really short UGLY haircut. Or no hair at all. A baseball cap with a corporate logo. A baseball cap with the name of the band, which is usually something expressing extreme arrogance accompanied by extreme hostility...or something completely meaningless. A criminal record. (sometimes it takes awhile to get a really good one...) An almost complete inability to sing. An almost complete inability to shut up. A large vocabulary of obscene words and phrases. Expressive fingers. A concealed weapon or two. Anybody got some more???? - LH |
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26 Jun 02 - 01:55 PM (#737527) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Mrrzy Oh, I don't know, I qualify on lots of points but I still don't like rap... |
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26 Jun 02 - 02:58 PM (#737569) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Chip2447 Gold, lots of gold to hang from your neck. A sound engineer to make your music for you. The inability to pronounce the word ASK... |
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26 Jun 02 - 03:00 PM (#737570) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: fat B****rd I like rap rhythms but I can't identify with the lyrics in most cases. I do feel however that If your music name is something like Nasty MF then to be successful your real name should a bit on the wimpy side. |
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26 Jun 02 - 03:07 PM (#737573) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: MMario rap has music with it? |
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26 Jun 02 - 03:15 PM (#737583) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Murph10566 Comic Chris Rock says: "It's the End of the World: The best Rapper is white (Eminem), and the best Golfer is black (Tiger) !" |
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26 Jun 02 - 03:39 PM (#737606) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: gnu Rap singer... rap + singer... nope, it don't add up. |
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26 Jun 02 - 03:42 PM (#737610) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: alanabit You just have to hate tunes... that and love the sound of malfunctioning machinery. |
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26 Jun 02 - 03:43 PM (#737612) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: MMario would that be because the adder has reptile dysfunction? |
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26 Jun 02 - 03:47 PM (#737616) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: GUEST,Bozo da Rapper 1. Tone deafness 2. Large mouth 3. Terminal constipation |
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26 Jun 02 - 03:58 PM (#737629) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: katlaughing I dunno, LH, this one seems a bit uncomfortable, compared to the C&W one...most rappers are black, so...oh, well....we had a great discussion about folk and rap in this thread: click here. |
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26 Jun 02 - 05:39 PM (#737706) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Little Hawk The reason it seems uncomfortable in comparison may be that there are a number of things to like about country music... - LH |
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26 Jun 02 - 05:49 PM (#737722) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Donuel How to write a Broadway hit
My old musician friend Muddy Lips Rivers taught me all I know.
He said don't start with art, talent or greatness!
With these years in mind , find a rock group in toothless decline or TV series / comedy to base a show.
Make a slick TV ad far superior the the actual show and drag the act city to city.
Old Muddy lips |
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26 Jun 02 - 05:52 PM (#737723) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: The Walrus Isn't there a requirement that the "singer" should have a mock "New Jersey" (pref. urban slum area) accent?
Rap music (the "C" is silent) Walrus |
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26 Jun 02 - 05:54 PM (#737726) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: The Walrus Trust me to cock it up. The "throwaway" should read "Rap (the "C" is silent)" Walrus |
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26 Jun 02 - 05:58 PM (#737732) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: katlaughing Conversely, some find something to like in rap, LH. If you looked at that thread you'd find that out. The uncomfortable bit comes from the stereotypes about people who cannot change their skin tone. |
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26 Jun 02 - 06:23 PM (#737754) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Little Hawk Kat, I apply the same rules to blacks as I do to anybody else. If any group of people do something I regard as tasteless and basically dumb, I do not excuse them for it on the basis of their skin color. I would regard so doing as a form of...racial prejudice. (Or is it a form of fear?) The black musicians who are doing rap are responding to a corporate marketing scheme that has manipulated them, in my opinion, for a quick buck. It's that mass marketing scheme I mainly object to. The kids who go along with it are simply the aftereffect of the marketing. The kids in my town who like rap and play it in their boom cars are virtually ALL white. It's the rap music itself I can't stand...not this or that racial group. I love good music played by blacks, and always have, and always will. Obviously I am prejudiced...against RAP music. I'm sure there are some black people who can't stand it too...but where would the media show you such people? It would interfere with SALES if they did! - LH |
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26 Jun 02 - 09:56 PM (#737867) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: GUEST,ozmacca Spot on Hawk. The final arbiter is whether you enjoy the actual music, whatever your tastes are. If somebody happens to like Rap, fine... let them get on with it, preferably wearing headphones, and not subject everybody else to it. Nothing to do with the performer being black, yellow, red, white or spotted chartreuse. Same applies to "electriceltic" or Baroque Classical string quartets or middle of the road C&W evergreens. If you don't like it, you shouldn't be subjected to it just because the massmarketeers want to convince folk that they should like it and buy it. Tried walking through the local mall lately? Record stores push the latest fashion by blasting everyone within half a mile. That's not because it's good, or black or whatever... just that sales have got to be kept up. |
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26 Jun 02 - 11:16 PM (#737898) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Little Hawk Yep, the dollar drives the chariot on the rocky road to Hell. I'm speaking allegorically, of course... There is some good rap out there...I just can't stand most of it, that's all. I could say the same about heavy metal and similar types of music. It's a matter of personal taste. - LH |
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27 Jun 02 - 12:00 AM (#737916) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Steve Latimer Well, I don't think that there has been any good black music since the days of Disco (running ducking). |
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27 Jun 02 - 03:27 AM (#737977) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: fat B****rd Yo !! But how do you get to be a famous rap singer ????? |
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27 Jun 02 - 11:48 AM (#738225) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: C-flat Judging from the "cut" of the trousers it would appear that most successful rappers have very short legs! |
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27 Jun 02 - 12:22 PM (#738254) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: guinnesschik Don't forget gold teeth. Oh, and ya' gotta have a total lack of respect for life, and rules, and enlightenment, and cultural growth. Rap singers(?)are stereotypes by their very nature. It's why I can't stand the music. |
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27 Jun 02 - 12:24 PM (#738256) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Hecate really stupid trousers seem to help - they should either hang off your bottom and have the crotch between your knees, be so baggy that the entire group could get into one pair, or trail along the ground behind you, as far as I can tell...... |
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27 Jun 02 - 12:32 PM (#738264) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Kim C Can I be called Special K? I know a lot of folks don't go in for rap. But consider this - 10 years ago, people said it would never last. They were wrong. I have heard some that I like. I like Shaggy, I think he has an interesting sounding voice. I like some of Ja Rule's songs, and some of Linkin Park's. Linkin Park is a bunch of white guys, and they were up for a Grammy. And I happen to own an Uncle Kracker CD. Just like anything else, you have to wade through the (c)rap to find the good stuff. Some things require a little more wading than others. ;-) |
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27 Jun 02 - 12:43 PM (#738270) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Jim Krause I think what LH is getting at is that rap is almost a parody of itself and thus invites ridicule. It certainly is so "out there" that it becomes a very easy target for satire. And I certainly wouldn't call it music. It lacks at least two of the basic components that define music, as I learned it in college; melody and harmony. Jim |
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27 Jun 02 - 01:05 PM (#738291) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: Don Firth Well, I don't know, now. Rap "singing" does require some technical proficiency. One must be able to form both hands in a position somewhat similar to the Vulcan salute (not easy to do at first attempt), but with essential differences. Extend the first and fourth fingers and the thumb while keeping your second and third fingers folded against your palms. Extend your arms almost full length (but somewhat bent, with elbows out), with the backs of your hands toward the audience (or the camera if you're making a video—which is safer, as I will explain in a moment). Your right hand fingers should be pointing to your left and your left hand fingers pointing to your right. Then, in this position, wave your hands threateningly in the collective faces of the audience (this is particularly effective when doing a video, because you get everybody at once) while shouting incoherently, as if you are informing them of how totally stupid and contemptible you consider them to be. Now—if you do perform for live audiences, either try to stay out of their faces (which sort of defeats the purpose) or be sure your footwork is up to the challenge of ducking and dodging in case there are some who might succumb to their natural reactions to your behavior by trying to flatten your schnozzle for you. I'm not sure it's progress, but we've certain come a long way since the calm, serene performances of Perry Como. Don Firth |
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27 Jun 02 - 01:46 PM (#738341) Subject: RE: BS: How to be a famous Rap Singer! From: katlaughing You might mean it that way, LH, but anyone reading this is going to think a bunch of folks are stereotyping blacks, not necessarily rap. As far as rap being music...ya'll need to go read that other thread. There's some really good stuff out there, some of it very positive in nature, some by women. Some of it comes very close to "mouth music" ala Bobby McFerrin, etc. It's fine for you to say you can't stand the music, the way they dress, etc. My concern was this thread, unlike the C&W one, seems to focus on people of colour and that seems racially prejudiced. I am NOT saying you are, just asking you to THINK about how it might appear to someone new who comes in here. katlastpostinthisthread...I..promise |