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01 Jul 02 - 06:54 PM (#740347) Subject: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: Townes I recently read the past threads re the subject 'For Ireland I'll Not tell Her Name'.A lovely tune and song that I am learning to perform.. Can anny catter asist me in the phonetic pronunciation of the last line 'ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí' Regards Townes |
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01 Jul 02 - 08:13 PM (#740398) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: The Pooka OK, I'm gonna put this out here for our many Irish-speakers (me decidely not among 'em) to correct. From hearing recordings of it only, by ear & not by actual knowledge, I would phonetically spell it "Ar Air-in nee no-shin kay hee." Now, ye gaeltacht 'catters, what is it really? |
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01 Jul 02 - 11:21 PM (#740485) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: The Pooka Here's a thread about the song, that *may* help - Click here (Philipa??) |
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01 Jul 02 - 11:42 PM (#740499) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: Townes Thank you The Pooka. You would not belive it an hour after I posted this request I discovered an MP# of De Dannan doing a version and you efforts are pretty close to the mark I think Regards Townes |
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02 Jul 02 - 12:06 AM (#740509) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: The Pooka Great, Townes. You're most welcome. It's also on "The Makem and Clancy Concert", Shanachie 52003; and "The Makem and Clancy Collection", BLB 1009; sung in Irish by Liam Clancy. Slainte.
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02 Jul 02 - 05:18 AM (#740583) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: Declan Pretty close there Pooka. The neosfainn is nearer (I think) to no sing (appropriately) than no shing. I'm finding it difficult to come up with a goo phonetic for it. The best I can do is Knows hing but the first syllable rhymes with close (as in nearby). |
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02 Jul 02 - 09:02 AM (#740656) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: Fiolar Declan has it almost spot on. |
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02 Jul 02 - 02:22 PM (#740836) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: The Pooka Noce hing, then, maybe? Well, thanks, Irishspeakers. Knew you'd come through. |
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02 Jul 02 - 04:14 PM (#740907) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: GUEST nôs hĭny, if we all remember our gradeschool shorts and longs! |
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02 Jul 02 - 04:16 PM (#740909) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: MMario say what? I never had anything like your example. |
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02 Jul 02 - 04:16 PM (#740910) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: GUEST Dang thing converted the long dash over the o to a circumflex. Blah. Anyway, the stress is on the first syllable. |
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02 Jul 02 - 04:48 PM (#740935) Subject: RE: ar Éirinn ní neosfainn cé hí - Trans From: beachcomber My tuppence worth (What it's worth) 'S ar air-ann nee no-s hing kay hee ! Try it ! beach |