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02 Jul 02 - 07:42 PM (#741028) Subject: Leg cramps and RLS From: tremodt does any one have any information on using Quinine water for these problems thanks Nice ole Ron |
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02 Jul 02 - 08:12 PM (#741044) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Go to the Mayo Clinic on line. leg cramps Enter "leg cramps" in the box to the left and look at the article on "Pain, cramps and charley horses." |
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02 Jul 02 - 08:57 PM (#741071) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Bev and Jerry Dicho:
Jerry has had severe, even incapacitating, leg cramps due to a condition called spinal stenosis (don't ask). The doc suggested taking calcium (Tums) or drinking tonic water which contains quinine. The calcium did nothing but the tonic water gave almost complete and immediate relief. He drinks about 6 ounces every afternoon. On a bad day, he drinks another 6 ounces. Try to use as little as you can because quinine is bad for your liver. The doc says you used to be able to get quinine tablets over the counter (at least in the U.S.) but you can't anymore because of potential liver damage.
Since Jerry also takes a statin drug to lower his cholesterol, he has a liver test every six months anyway so if there is any problem with the quinine, it will be spotted quickly. Quinine water is cheap and readily available without a perscription and some people even like the taste. If you put a little gin or vodka in it, you won't care if it works or not. Bev and Jerry
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03 Jul 02 - 12:02 AM (#741148) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: mack/misophist I get severe cramps in the long muscles of the torso and legs. They give me potassium for it. It takes a few hours but it does the trick. A good source is bananas. The doseage I take is immense but 3 or 4 bananas might do you. Can't hurt, anyhow. |
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03 Jul 02 - 12:38 AM (#741163) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) True spinal stenosis usually calls for surgery. See Mayo Clinic site, link above, for description. |
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03 Jul 02 - 01:57 AM (#741186) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Mark Cohen Actually, misophist, it can hurt. Your kidneys generally will get rid of whatever potassium you don't need. However, if your kidneys aren't quite up to snuff (and there are thousands if not millions of people with low-grade kidney failure from a variety of causes who feel perfectly fine), and the potassium builds up, it can kill you. Literally. Be very careful about self-diagnosing and self-treating cramps that are severe or persistent. See a doctor. (And not a pediatrician like me!) Aloha, Mark |
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03 Jul 02 - 03:39 AM (#741221) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Mudlark Dear Nice Ole Ron...Calcium/magnesium (especially the magnesium but it should be balanced w/calcium) is very helpful, calcium 2 to 1 to magnesium. I take 1K mg cal, and 500 mg magnesium....if I run out I start getting leg cramps within about a wk. |
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03 Jul 02 - 06:57 AM (#741286) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Mr Happy what's rls? |
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03 Jul 02 - 07:03 AM (#741290) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: mooman I agree with Mudlark...I often get leg cramps and magnesium (prescribed by my doctor) has helped. mooman |
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03 Jul 02 - 07:31 AM (#741302) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: DonMeixner I'm in the Quinine pool as well. But good hydration and excercise will help as well. Providing you are one of those people who are helped by good hydration and excercise. The bottom line is ask a Doctor. One persons cure can be anothers poison. Don |
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03 Jul 02 - 07:46 AM (#741315) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: UB Ed I thought potassium (banana) was helpful... |
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03 Jul 02 - 07:58 AM (#741320) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Noreen UB Ed, potassium (banana) can indeed be helpful if your body is short of it. However if the symptoms are caused by something else then it won't help, and potassium, like most other things, can be dangerous in excess. There is no one answer for any problem! |
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03 Jul 02 - 08:03 AM (#741325) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Nigel Parsons Like Mr Happy, I wondered what the RLS was, the only time I've seen that abbreviation was for Robert Louis Stevenson, And I won't make the obvious comment. Nigel |
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03 Jul 02 - 08:07 AM (#741329) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: GUEST,vixen@work I think RLS is restless leg syndrome, where the legs twitch involuntarily, usually when you're trying to sit or relax or (worse) sleep. V |
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03 Jul 02 - 06:27 PM (#741791) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Bev and Jerry Dicho:
Yes, spinal stenosis is generally cured by surgery and Jerry came this close to the knife. But, the neurosurgeon was too busy to get to it right away so Jerry went to a chiropracter who suggested some excercises. By the time the neurosurgeon could see him, his symptoms had virtually disappeared. So far, he has put off the surgery for three years by constant excercising. The neurosurgeon said put it off as long as you can. So, that's what he's doing. Bev and Jerry |
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03 Jul 02 - 10:11 PM (#741895) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: tremodt once again I thank all you catters for your valued apinions thanks dear ole Ron |
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03 Jul 02 - 11:57 PM (#741938) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: Bert Then there's the soccer players remedy for leg cramps. Lie on your back and get someone to rotate your foot as much as they can. And don't forget that plain old warmth will help. Just cover your leg with a blanket. |
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04 Jul 02 - 12:21 AM (#741949) Subject: RE: Help: Leg cramps and RLS From: rangeroger I get massive,middle-of-the-night,cramps in the long muscles of my thighs which are extremely painful. Particularly when they hit both thighs at the same time. Quinine ( as tonic water) and potassium (potasium gluconate tablets) seem to control them. I mix the quinine with red grapefruit juice( no alcohol). Only problem is, my stomach gets sensitive to the mixture, I'll stop the tonic water, run out of potassium tablets and wham, here are the cramps again. Increased water intake also helps with me. rr |