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03 Jul 02 - 02:59 PM (#741662) Subject: falorum and dingdorum From: Little Hawk Has anyone seen these terms used in a trad song? What is their derivation? - LH |
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03 Jul 02 - 03:07 PM (#741671) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: PeteBoom As in "Maids When You're Young (Never Wed An Old Man)"? "... He's lost his falorum; He's got no dingdorum - Maids when you're young never wed an old man." That? Pete |
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03 Jul 02 - 03:20 PM (#741679) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Art Thieme Ah, alas, so sad, but, also, so true. (*) |
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03 Jul 02 - 03:41 PM (#741697) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: RichM The anwswer obviously, is falorum-agra. |
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03 Jul 02 - 06:00 PM (#741777) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: The Pooka In DT Maids When You're Young But, their derivation?? Hm. Calling all 'Catscholars. Expertise needed on The Falorum Dingdorum Thread. |
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03 Jul 02 - 07:06 PM (#741819) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Murray MacLeod "Falorum" is the genitive plural of the Latin "phallus" and should be more correctly spelled "phallorum". "Dingdorum" is the genitive plural of the Latin "dingdus" which transmuted over the centuries to the the more modern "dong".
Of course, it is immediately obvious to any Latin scholar than the use of the genitive plural case is grammatically wrong, and that the line in "Maids WHen You're Young" should read Murray |
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03 Jul 02 - 07:32 PM (#741835) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: The Pooka Uh...yeah, does it?? Now, is this (ahem) straight, or a phallusy perpetrated by a cunning linguist? There's a vas deferens y'know. J'accusative! (Hey, wazoo I know?) |
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03 Jul 02 - 08:00 PM (#741846) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Little Hawk Excellent answer, Murray. The case is solv-ed, if I may quote Inspector Clouseau. - LH |
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03 Jul 02 - 08:54 PM (#741863) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Bill D "dingdus" which transmuted over the centuries to the the more modern "dong". ...gives lots of new meaning to "Ding, dong, the witch is dead" ....or maybe it doesn't |
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03 Jul 02 - 10:07 PM (#741891) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: GUEST,ozmacca And I was going to add "Ding dong dell / Pussy's in the well" but I don't think I will...... |
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03 Jul 02 - 10:09 PM (#741894) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: The Pooka HAHAHA glad you didn't, Oz. |
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04 Jul 02 - 01:52 AM (#741982) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: katlaughing Such repartee when fellahs start talking about members! Great answer, Murray! I had thought the fal o'rum had something to do with being inebriated in the Carribean, though.{*_*} |
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04 Jul 02 - 04:38 AM (#742012) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: KingBrilliant Does this mean we're a members-only fallorum now? KRis |
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04 Jul 02 - 05:46 AM (#742034) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: ozmacca ... and isn't it "Johnie O' Braideslie (in one version or another) that has the line, "... tae ding the dun deer doon..." Make what you like out of that! |
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04 Jul 02 - 07:59 AM (#742091) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Noreen This of course is nothing to do with the derivation of the refrain in Droylsden Wakes: threedywell, threedywell, dan dum dill doe... |
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04 Jul 02 - 12:41 PM (#742295) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Trevor Isn't there something that has a 'doo me am dingeram a doo me am a doo' in it? If you see what I mean! |
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04 Jul 02 - 01:07 PM (#742307) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: The Pooka Whack fol the Diddle o the Didoe dee. --General Perverse Musharingum |
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04 Jul 02 - 02:04 PM (#742332) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: katlaughing Out here in the Wild West it's more like Whoop-tee-do dang bulldum stepnut tootie |
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04 Jul 02 - 02:12 PM (#742336) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Big Mick Now, is this (ahem) straight, or a phallusy perpetrated by a cunning linguist? There's a vas deferens y'know. The Pooka Ya know.............Pooka...........you fecking pile o' catshite.........you have been around here long enough, lad, to know the rules.........Give us aul twits a bit of a warning.......y'know, the "whatever liquid you are drinkin in the sinuses" type of thing........you prick................LOL. A wonderful bit of wordplay...........I am sure brither Thieme will be proud of you..........hahahahahaha Mick |
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04 Jul 02 - 04:11 PM (#742413) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: The Pooka Big Mick ya Dick Lick: May yer pig never grunt, may yer cat never hunt, may a ghost ever h'ant you at dead of the night, may yer hens never lay, may yer horse never neigh, may yer goat fly away like an ould paper kite...heeheehee thankee sir. Though still feeling MudAdolescent, I guess I been around here long enuff to get faux-flamed finally, & yez DID it fer me! T'anks! / Among other things, The Mudcat is a fine School of Pun-gency. I have benefitted. // (Tickled Pink, Pooka disappears down gerbiltunnel: Romancing the Hamster.) PS: re musha ringum duram da etc.: "The words were dirty." - Tommy Smothers |
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29 Nov 03 - 11:55 PM (#1063088) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Joe Offer We wouldn't want to miss this gem: Thread #48201 Message #723609 Posted By: Aidan Crossey 05-Jun-02 - 12:03 PM Thread Name: SONG CHALLENGE! - Part 82 Subject: RE: SONG CHALLENGE! - Part 82
Told from the perspective of the participants … a parody of that oul' come-all-ye "Maids When You're Young, Never Wed An Oul' Man". |
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30 Nov 03 - 06:06 AM (#1063135) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: okthen I don't suppose anyone could work George Best into the above song? |
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30 Nov 03 - 06:08 AM (#1063136) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: okthen Best Boosted |
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01 Dec 03 - 03:13 AM (#1063479) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: GUEST,Boab First jingle my auld Faither ever taught me-- "Auld Missus Hunt had a huddy punt-- Not a huddy punt , but a hunt punt cuddy". never try it at the Church Social, or when even slightly drunk in polite company--- |
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01 Dec 03 - 07:16 AM (#1063553) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Richard Bridge I don't think the dingus explanation can be right, for the last verse goes "I found his falourum, he's got my dingdourum", which would make the dingdourum female. Unless of course "dingus" (=thing) can be applied, although masculine, to feminine things as well without modification. My Latin does not go that far. |
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03 Aug 04 - 11:21 AM (#1239472) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: GUEST,Wren Hey is the Maids When You're Young...... an Irish tune? Where did it come from? I heard it on holidays and I thought it was teh funniest thing ever. Does anyone know where I can hear a recording of it other than the one on this link. |
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03 Aug 04 - 03:31 PM (#1239654) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Betsy Surely there could be a new last verse relating to Viagra, but , I can't at this moment find an appropriate rhymning word . |
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03 Aug 04 - 03:54 PM (#1239690) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Uncle_DaveO As Pete Seeger sings Maids When You're Young it goes like this: The repetitive line in each verse is on the patterm of the first verse: An old man came courtin' me Fa la-la loodle An old man came courtin' me Hi, derry down! An old man came courtin' me All for to marry me Maids, when you're young, never wed an old man And the next to last verse: For he had no fa-loodle Fa la la-la loodle He had no fa-loodle, a Divil a one! He had no fa-loodle, He'd lost his ding-doodle Oh, maids, when you're young, never wed an old man! Probably because this is the first version of this song I heard, and thus the way I sing it, I like this better than the "falorum" version discussed above. Dave Oesterreich |
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03 Aug 04 - 04:51 PM (#1239729) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Malcolm Douglas Irish? Probably not. It seems to have been found most often in tradition in England and Scotland (rather more frequently in the former country, so far as I can tell); also in Canada, Ireland and the USA. You can see a mid-19th century broadside edition from Harkness of Preston at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads: Never maids wed an old man Note the "hey down derry down" refrain in the broadside, likely enough the origin of "hey ding a doorum da". |
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04 Aug 04 - 01:05 AM (#1240009) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: alison I agree with Richard Bridge here "I found his falourum, he's got my dingdourum" so either she's a "she with a strap on" or she's really a transvestite who managed to fool her hubby and this young bloke into thinking she was a woman!! slainte alison |
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04 Aug 04 - 01:57 PM (#1240297) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: GUEST,belter Do people refuse to see the ovious? The context clearly shows dingdourum to be arousal, get up and go, randienes, or to put it bluntly, orgasmic function. |
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04 Aug 04 - 03:38 PM (#1240362) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Lighter The great Scot Jeannie Robertson (O.B.E.) recorded this in the '60s. |
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05 Aug 04 - 06:11 AM (#1240629) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: GUEST,Mingulay I was just wondering if "cunning linguist" is derived from a similar sounding latin word. After all, it's all about getting your tongue around things! |
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05 Aug 04 - 06:35 PM (#1240909) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Uncle_DaveO Exactly. Richard Lederer, that great writer on language subjects, wrote a funny book about language, and entitled it The Cunning Linguist, but his publisher wouldn't allow him to use that title, and he had to name it something else (I forget what). Dave Oesterreich |
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13 Mar 09 - 11:43 AM (#2588038) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Artful Codger "Maids, When You're Young" was also recorded by Sam Larner on Now Is the Time for Fishing, first released in 1961. |
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19 Aug 09 - 06:58 AM (#2703698) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: George Papavgeris Who rang your dingdorum, mate? Let's see - Halliburton, Goldman Sachs... Sure, that's the company we folkies like to keep... |
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19 Aug 09 - 10:07 PM (#2704299) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Joe_F "Dingus", according to the OED, comes from Dutch via Afrikaans; from the quotations it seems that the plural dinges got transmogrified into mock Latin. But the OED is unaware that it also has the specialized meaning "dildo". It is true that by & large, in IndoEuropean languages, grammatical gender is correlated with sex, but there are many exceptions, and there is no difficulty in applying a masculine noun to the female organ. Indeed, the actual vulgar Latin word, "cunnus", was masculine; and contrariwise the vulgar word for penis, "mentula", was feminine! One can imagine philologists arguing all night about that. Slang words that can apply to both male and female genitals are rare, but "will" is an example in Elizabethan English; Shakespeare punned on it elaborately in one of his sonnets. |
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02 Dec 09 - 06:26 AM (#2778305) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: GUEST,Dodger I think its about a runaway Haggis as in the song, eat the rich |
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02 Dec 09 - 09:37 AM (#2778463) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Cuilionn Och, whit a grand bit o craic! Ah love the thocht o a hantle o hielan lasses, rinnin roond beltin oot their Latin... ...an ane says tae anither, "Hah! Conjugate THAT!" On a relatit subject, dinnae ken whilk album, but there's a recordin o "Auld Maid in the Garret" wi this endin on the final chorus: "...if Ah cannae get a man, Ah can aye use a carrot!" Jist aboot made me spit oot ma tea wi blythe amusement! Och! What will those traditional sangsters think up next?!? |
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02 Dec 09 - 09:58 AM (#2778474) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: MGM·Lion On a relatit subject, dinnae ken whilk album, but there's a recordin o "Auld Maid in the Garret" wi this endin on the final chorus: "...if Ah cannae get a man, Ah can aye use a carrot!" Jist aboot made me spit oot ma tea wi blythe amusement!>>> That was how Robin Hall used to sing it? Was the record his? |
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02 Dec 09 - 10:07 AM (#2778482) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Cuilionn Nae... some braw Scots lass wi a fine beltin voice... Cannae reca it jist noo but Ah'll luik thro ma albums later. |
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10 Mar 10 - 10:01 AM (#2860997) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: LindsayCurran "Hi all, it seems pretty cool here hopefully i can participate in some lively discussions here! i hope i get to know you all soon!" If a beautiful and talented young maid is doing what I hope should be a-doing this week and many a week to come...he's got plenty of falorum and dingdorum. All these years I've been looking up lyrics so earnestly and diligently in the Great Mudcat I haven't laughed so hard in many a year. "Now, is this (ahem) straight, or a phallusy perpetrated by a cunning linguist? There's a vas deferens y'know. The Pooka Ya know.............Pooka...........you fecking pile o' catshite.........you have been around here long enough, lad, to know the rules.........Give us aul twits a bit of a warning.......y'know, the "whatever liquid you are drinkin in the sinuses" type of thing........you prick................LOL. A wonderful bit of wordplay...........I am sure brither Thieme will be proud of you..........hahahahahaha Mick Blessings on ye, one and all! |
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24 Dec 10 - 05:27 AM (#3060542) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: GUEST,Alan Whittle don't ask me - lost mine years ago |
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30 Apr 11 - 08:26 AM (#3145235) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: GUEST,Desi C As Pete said definitely in the Irish song Never Wed An Old Man. Someone told me once that the Faloorums and diddly ey doo's etc began in Irish music, where most tunes were written to jig and reel dances and where a word or line didn't fit or couldn't be thought of, the tradition of making up these funny little refrain notes began, wack for me doorum diddly aye doo to you all |
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30 Apr 11 - 06:31 PM (#3145475) Subject: RE: falorum and dingdorum From: Gallus Moll My version of a previously mentioned tongue-twister is: Mrs Hunt had a cuddy-punt Not a Hunt-punt-cuddy but a cuddy-punt-Hunt with reference to the 'Trump' thread,: Three smart fellows felt smart I used to know several others, which when you said them quickly could cause amusement or embarrassment!!! And regarding the 'faloorum / dingdoorum 'old men canny get it up' discussion, the original version of the Robert Burns song 'John Anderson My Jo' sums the situation up extremely well (tho you have to understand Scots to fully appreciate the meaning!) --------- Thread closed due to persistent spamming. Contact Joe Offer if you need it re-opened.--------- |