07 Jul 02 - 01:16 PM (#743875) Subject: Bawdy songs queston From: Coyote I'm a newbie at Mudcat, so I want to play by the rules. What is the policy on "bawdy" songs? I have in mind the kind of thing that Oscar Brand has recorded: " A little of the one with t'other", and that sort of thing. Does Mudcat have them? Want them? Thanks for a great site. My wife and I use it frequently to find material for our musical offerings. the Coyote |
07 Jul 02 - 01:24 PM (#743877) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: dick greenhaus Try a search for @bawdy , and you can see what we have. As for policy---we don' need no steenking policy. |
07 Jul 02 - 02:06 PM (#743895) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: artbrooks Oscar Brand...bawdy??? Well, perhaps slightly suggestive. |
07 Jul 02 - 02:41 PM (#743910) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: wysiwyg The only "problem" is that some members' work computers have settings that make Mudcat inaccessible if certain words are here... but I am sure those words are ALREADY here, and so are those members, so--- ??? The member most "up" on that angle would be, IMO, MMario. ~Susan |
07 Jul 02 - 03:20 PM (#743929) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: Liz the Squeak I think the general answer is - make sure the title is clear and go for it... those who will be offended can avoid it, those who like the naughty stuff will lap it up. There will always be someone who is offended no matter what you call it or what it's content is, so just ignore them... it's called free will and comes with every computer - it's called the off button! LTS |
07 Jul 02 - 03:37 PM (#743940) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: Hollowfox Thanks for asking, though. I've been able to address bawdy and controversial threads on my terminal at work in a library without getting yelled at or fired, including some rather saucy quotes, so sometimes you can dodge this bullet by your choice of vocabulary. Have fun, hollowfox |
07 Jul 02 - 07:22 PM (#744042) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: McGrath of Harlow The best bawdy songs rarely use any vocabulary that a conputer would be alarmed at. |
07 Jul 02 - 07:40 PM (#744047) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: Mr Red computers don't see any smut when you couple Rams with bus drivers the definition of Bawdy is all a bit woolly anyway. |
08 Jul 02 - 02:44 PM (#744494) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: alanabit Welcome home Coyote. What have you got for us? |
08 Jul 02 - 02:57 PM (#744509) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: MMario From the sounds of it the type song Coyote was thinking of posting wouldn't cause problems with most people's content filter. Most content filters go for the obvious |
08 Jul 02 - 05:53 PM (#744627) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: SeanM If content filters aren't already being set off by Eskimo Nell, then NOTHING will. If your bawdy songs can top THAT for 'potentially offensive content of sexual nature'... I REALLY wanna see it. That'd be a feat. M |
08 Jul 02 - 08:29 PM (#744742) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: dick greenhaus Coyote- "A little over one with t'other" was recorded by Ed McCurdy; it dates back at least to D'Urfey's "Pills to Purge Melancholy". It's already in DigiTrad. |
08 Jul 02 - 10:30 PM (#744801) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: MMario Sean - it's really surprising what will set off some content filters - and what gets through. But I think they've finally gotten tired of blocking the DT - I haven't had to get it released in almost a month. |
09 Jul 02 - 01:27 AM (#744875) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: Kaleea Back in my college days, I once recieved from a boyfriend (also a music major) a book of "catches" (3 & 4 part songs for men to sing in public houses i.e., drinking establishments of olden times) which were bawdy &/or drinking songs by some of the master composers such as Handel--yes, that one, the one who wrote Handel's Messiah! The book is a scream! If only those pious folks in the choir knew about the rest of the songs he wrote! |
09 Jul 02 - 09:05 PM (#745501) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: Joe_F Kaleea: That may have been _Catch As Catch Can_. I thought I owned it, but it seems not. Some of the rounds were written so that when the parts were sung, meanings emerged that were not evident in unison. For example, He would an alehouse keep must Have three things in store: A chamber with a featherbed, a Chimney and a hey-nonny-nonny,.... Likewise, I see in _The Penguin Book of Rounds_ Here dwells a pretty maid whose name is Sis, you may come in and kiss. Her whole, her whole, her whole, her whole estate is sev'nteen pence a year. Yet you may kiss, you may kiss, you may kiss, you may kiss her if you come but near. If the company sings "I've been working on the railroad" & "Old Black Joe" simultaneously, it sort of harmonizes, and "Dinah, won't you blow" is synchronized with "I'm coming". |
10 Jul 02 - 07:15 AM (#745706) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: alanabit Ah! Some good old fashioned filth. There's no beating it, is there? |
10 Jul 02 - 04:10 PM (#746007) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: John MacKenzie There was a previous thread about Mike Absolom, now he's the one for a bawdy song or two! Giok |
01 Apr 05 - 07:56 PM (#1449629) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: GUEST,Jack does anyone know of the earliest recording of this bawdy song "Big Rhode Island Red", also would like to know if the song is still availbale... BIG RHODE ISLAND RED Some folk like a pussy a budgie or a tit Some take up with a mongrul pup That fills the house with shit Myself now I keep chickens and I've a favourite one It's dick my little cockeral And I don't know where he's gone Has anybody seen my cock My big rhode island red He's mostly pink with a little bit of blue And he's purple on his head He satnds straight up in the morning And he gives my wife a shock Has anybody seen, has anybody seen Has anybody, anybody seen my cock He's a stiff necked upstart And I've known him all my life He's my pride and pleasure And a torment to me wife Sometimes he's magnificient Sometime tall and thin But he puffs up like a pigeon When you tickle him under his chin Jack |
01 Apr 05 - 08:38 PM (#1449668) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: PoppaGator We have one member (or maybe he's a regular guest) who often posts requests for bawdy lyrics, and his messages always include the same "boilerplate" text: "Don't be offended, if you don't like this kind of stuff, don't read it," etc. He also always includes a link to his website, which features a collection of rugby songs, hash-house-harrier songs, and other risque stuff. If you search out enough "bawdy" threads, I'm sure you'll come across some of his postings. Do check out his website, a real treasure trove of good old-fashioned naughtiness. |
01 Apr 05 - 09:17 PM (#1449690) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: Bob the Postman You must mean Immortalia |
02 Apr 05 - 12:30 AM (#1449764) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: GUEST http://immortalia.com/html/field-recordings/mehlberg-collection/sudsuckin-bigfoot-and-enter-the-gerbil/individual-songs/rhode-island-red.htm These links to "immortalia" have evidently been retired and redistributed. They no longer lead to bawdy songs, sad to say. --mudelf |
02 Apr 05 - 04:03 AM (#1449834) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: GUEST,Paul Burke These were sung by the City Waites on one of their early LPs (1970s, not reissued on CD): (this is quoted from this useful looking site with minor spelling corrections) "When Celia was learning on the spinet to play Her tutor stood by her to show her, to show her, To show her, to show her the way. She shook not the note, which angered him much and made him, and made him cry "Zounds! Tis a long prick, a long prick, a long prick'd note you touch.' Surprised was the lady to hear him complain And said, and said and said "I will shake it. I will shake it when I come to it again." The song is sung by at least three people. When all three verses are going in round fashion, you get "To show her, a long prick, I will shake it." when I come to it again." |
22 Apr 15 - 05:44 PM (#3703548) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: GUEST,BluesBob I am a newcomer, but have been following threads here for some time with great interest. I live grew up in Chicago, but have lived in Germany for over 20 years. I am writing a book here to help German blues fans understand the lyrics. They are crazy about the music, but entirely miss the meaning. I have a question about one expression in Ethel Water's "My Handy Man" that I can't get my head around and would really appreciate any insights you could provide. The expression is in this stanza: "He flaps my flapjacks, cleans off the table, He feeds the horses in my stable, My man is such a handy man! He's God's gift!" Does anyone have an explanation for "cleans off the table"? I'm stumped. Thanks for any help you can provide. I love this forum! |
22 Apr 15 - 06:26 PM (#3703551) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: Lighter Isn't much of the song's point that almost any phrase involving "he" plus a verb plus "my" sounds bawdy in the right context, without having any specific meaning? Few the song's metaphors seem to exist anywhere else. Some, like "churns my butter," are more obviously suggestive than others, like "cleans off the table." "My Handy Man," of course, wass composed by Andy Razaf and Eubie Blake, and not by the singer Ethel Waters. |
22 Apr 15 - 08:53 PM (#3703574) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs queston From: GUEST,.gargoyle Mr. Lighter.... Just curious...is there a "wild gaseous blast in Hell" that a random third volume might appear? That it might appear in ANY form? Sincerely, Gargoyle There is so much beyond "O." |
22 Apr 15 - 11:25 PM (#3703586) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs question From: Joe Offer I'm missing something, Garg - was there something that got lost before your post? There aren't any deleted messages in this thread. -Joe- |
22 Apr 15 - 11:33 PM (#3703588) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs question From: Stilly River Sage I think he responded to the wrong post. Lighter's Oscar Brand LPs, CDs post is probably what he was intending to respond to. You know when you start talking about bawdy songs you almost have to talk about Oscar Brand. SRS |
23 Apr 15 - 02:25 AM (#3703597) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs question From: GUEST,BluesBob Thanks for your comment. I identified the song with Ethel Waters as there are other versions by Alberta Hunter, etc. and sometimes the lyrics are slightly different. "My HandyMan" has the richest array of references to sex. For a few of the references I some help at "Sex-Lexis.com", but the focus there is on more contemporary language and nor pre-war blues. Thanks again for your comments! BluesBob |
23 Apr 15 - 10:09 AM (#3703635) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs question From: Bill D In many bawdy or suggestive songs, the particular phrases 'may' not be intended to describe a particular act or ability, but can merely be interesting euphemisms to indicate a general all-around desirability and prowess. In German, they take great pains to construct precise words, often quite long, to clarify meaning, and they don't always see why other languages don't do the same. There are lists of sexual nouns, verbs and phrases that boggle the mind, and I can liberally interpret "cleans off the table" in a couple of explicit ways, but I would not presume that they are exactly what the author/singer intended. Part of blues lyrics is allowing the listener to process things for themselves. |
23 Apr 15 - 10:13 AM (#3703636) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs question From: Bill D A friend of mine sings this one....nothing in it is explicit, but it has all the 'meaning' one cares to give it. Madam Buff's was quite deluxe Servants by the score Footmen at each door Butlers and maids galore But one day Sam, her kitchen man Gave in his notice, he's through She cried, "Oh Sam, don't go It'll grieve me if you do" I love his cabbage gravy, his hash Crazy 'bout his succotash I can't do without my kitchen man Wild about his turnip top Like the way he warms my chop I can't do without my kitchen man Anybody else can leave And I would only laugh But he means too much to me And you ain't heard the half Oh, his jelly roll is so nice and hot Never fails to touch the spot I can't do without my kitchen man His frankfurters are oh so sweet How I like his sausage meat I can't do without my kitchen man Oh, how that boy can open clam No one else is can touch my ham I can't do without my kitchen man When I eat his doughnuts All I leave is the hole Any time he wants to Why, he can use my sugar bowl Oh, his baloney's really worth a try Never fails to satisfy I can't do without my kitchen man Songwriters PINKARD, EDNA B. / RAZAF, ANDY |
23 Apr 15 - 10:36 AM (#3703639) Subject: RE: Bawdy songs question From: Ed T And, then there are Kevin Bloody Wilson's songs. |