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21 Jul 02 - 11:10 PM (#752221) Subject: What is a hero? From: Wincing Devil Let's consider the other side of the coin: What is a hero? I'll start it off by saying a hero is someone who goes out of their way to make someons elses life better.
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21 Jul 02 - 11:12 PM (#752223) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: GUEST Greek Hero was Leander's love, a woman. |
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21 Jul 02 - 11:28 PM (#752227) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: DonMeixner Hero was a Greek writer who may have invented the earliest known steam turbine about 200 BC. Heros are generally the most common of people who act extraordinarily, usually for the betterment of someone else. and three parts assorted meats, 2 parts various cheeses, several leaf like vegetables, some hot edible bulbs, thinly sliced and a small loaf of crusty french like bread. May be dressed or not. Don |
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22 Jul 02 - 08:23 AM (#752332) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: KingBrilliant (ref Don's post) I think I'd prefer my hero undressed thanks. KRis |
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22 Jul 02 - 09:18 AM (#752347) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Dave the Gnome Easy - The male equivalent of a shero. A 'ro' being a small furry creature with large lips that lives only the northeast most corner of Mesapotamia. A little know fact about heros is that they can, during extreme conditions, flash on and off in the dark giving them a stoboscopic method of confusing their enemies. The sheros however have no such defensive mechanism but are rarely touched by preditors due to the fact that they taste remarkably like McDonalds cheeseburgers. Back to you Mr Robertson... |
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22 Jul 02 - 09:45 AM (#752361) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: SharonA Wincing Devil, I think your dictionary's definition 1d (one who shows great courage) comes closest to your own. I have the same dictionary here, and one of the definitions under "heroic" is "grand; noble". It also mentions honor, which I think is a key component of a hero's makeup. Pedant alert! The plural of the English word "hero" is actually "heroes", though it is often misspelled as "heros". Here's a page about Hero and Leander (PARENTS TAKE NOTE: At the top of this page is a statue of Hero, unclothed, so depending on your opinion of the nude figure in art, you may or may not want to shield your kids' eyes): http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/Hero.html Now, the sandwich of which Don speaks is not universally known as a "hero". Depending on which part of the US you're in when you make one, it's a grinder, a submarine, a hoagie, a muffuletta, or a po' boy. But whatever you call it, don't forget the tomatoes... and put some hot peppers on mine, will ya? |
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22 Jul 02 - 12:40 PM (#752459) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Mrrzy To me a hero is someone who risks their life for others who are unrelated and for no personal gain. Thus a mother throwing herself into the raging waters to save her child is not a hero, but if she throws herself in to save someone else's child, she is. Any volunteer firefighter is. I'm not sure about a paid firefighter... are they doing it for the money, in which case, no they aren't, but if they're doing it for the sake of the humans they rescue, they are? Living in the South, I can tell you that a hero ain't the same thing as a po'boy. |
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22 Jul 02 - 12:42 PM (#752462) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: SharonA Mrrzy says "a hero ain't the same thing as a po'boy." I did not know that; sorry! What's in a po'boy? |
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22 Jul 02 - 12:44 PM (#752464) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: SharonA Come to think of it, a hero (sandwich) ain't the same thing as a gyro, even though they're pronounced the same way. |
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22 Jul 02 - 12:58 PM (#752476) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: MMario Are they really? (at least - should they be?) around here 'gyro' is prounced jie-ro or jear-o |
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22 Jul 02 - 03:37 PM (#752562) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Art Thieme A hero, according to Joseph Campbell is, "whatever I say it is." And he/she/it is always/usually/sometimes wearing a mask.* * see my books for elaborations on the subject Art Thieme |
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22 Jul 02 - 03:56 PM (#752572) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Don Firth Someone who is willing to stick his or her neck out on a matter of principle, especially when he or she has nothing to gain and, quite possibly, much to lose. Don Firth |
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22 Jul 02 - 04:10 PM (#752582) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Mrrzy Right on, DonF! And SharonA, po'boys have more fried stuff than heros do. For instance, a fried oyster po'boy would not be an oyster hero. Heros tend to have cold cuts... (Spaw?) |
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22 Jul 02 - 05:00 PM (#752613) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Liz the Squeak Ah, whatever happened to the humble sandwich. And why isn't there a naked statue of Leander? LTS |
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22 Jul 02 - 05:31 PM (#752640) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: sponge Cos YOu havn't made one yet...now theres a thought, a nude Leander with baldricks.... S. |
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22 Jul 02 - 05:49 PM (#752649) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Bill D Leander..'almost' naked |
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22 Jul 02 - 08:05 PM (#752722) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: artbrooks gyro= ye' (as in hear-ye, hear-ye) + row |
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22 Jul 02 - 08:25 PM (#752734) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: khandu Where I sometime dine a hero and a muffaletto are two different items. But...what the hell do they know; they say Guinness is beer!! INFIDELS! khandu |
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22 Jul 02 - 08:27 PM (#752735) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: khandu OH, sorry, Wincing Devil. I agree with your definition! :-D. khandu |
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22 Jul 02 - 10:45 PM (#752796) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Bill D then how do you say 'gyroscope'? ...and who decided? |
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23 Jul 02 - 12:36 AM (#752827) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: wysiwyg Isn't it gyros for the singular? ~S~
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23 Jul 02 - 02:10 AM (#752860) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Chip2447 A hero is an ordinary person, inspired by emotional, physical, and or mental stimulii, who, knowingly or not react abnormally to the situation at hand and perform extraordinary actions for the benefit of others. Chip2447 |
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23 Jul 02 - 12:01 PM (#753075) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: SharonA I stand corrected on the pronunciation of "gyros". Sorry about that; I have a friend who insists that the pronunciation "HEE-ro" is correct, and up to now I haven't done any research to verify or dispute that. But this thread has prompted me to delve into the subject, at least far enough to come up with a couple of web-pages about it: An article entitled "Just How Do You Pronounce Gyros, Anyway? And is The Gosh-Darned Word Plural, or Singular?" (http://users.erols.com/textuscs/gyros/justhow.html) A restaurant review, complete with pronunciation of the name (http://www.louisvillehotbites.com/omar.shtml) And here's an excerpt from a Scherzi & Sospiri column entitled "More Songs About Squiggles and Sounds" (http://www.inu.org/scherzi/200101/entry5.htm): Every time I go to order a gyro from a sandwich store, I have to decide whether to pronounce it the way my mother, a native speaker of Greek, pronounced it, or pronounce it like "jy-row" (if umlauts are tricky, I'm not even going to attempt IPA). The Greek gamma is pronounced further back in the throat than the English g. Before certain vowels (typically ones pronounced in the back of the mouth), gamma sounds a lot like a g, but maybe with some gargling. Before other vowels (typically ones pronounced in the front of the mouth), it sounds more like a y, but maybe with a little buzzing. The upsilon in gyro, transliterated as y, and pronounced in Modern Greek as "ee" is one of the front vowels that make gamma sound more like a y. Once I went up to the counter at the Great Wraps that used to be at the Cambridgeside Galleria and asked for a "yeero" (rolled r and all) and was met with a blank stare. After I asked for a "jyrow" I was understood. I was handed a sandwich whose proximity to gyrohood was consistent with its pronunciation. Readers who are familiar with my non-confrontational methods will not be surprised to know that although I love those peculiar lamb sandwiches, I will not order them aloud. In fact, I have avoided asking for gyros for many years longer than I've avoided Münster. There is such a thing as knowing too much for one's own good. |
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23 Jul 02 - 12:15 PM (#753092) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Uncle_DaveO The interesting thing (to me) about gyros is that most people think it's from Greece, but it was invented in Chicago. It has the same relation to Greece that Chow Mein has to China. Dave Oesterreich |
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23 Jul 02 - 12:33 PM (#753100) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: catspaw49 I have found another place where my friend Khandu and I can agree I believe........A Gyro cannot hold a dead, wet, match to a Muffaletta, the "Muffy" being possibly the greatest sandwich in the world. Spaw |
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23 Jul 02 - 08:18 PM (#753412) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: khandu YAS, AMAN! Brother Spaw, preach it!! khandu PS..I do believe this is the first time you have mis-typed my name! k. |
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23 Jul 02 - 09:58 PM (#753462) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: GUEST You risked your life, but what else have you ever risked? Have you ever risked disapproval? Have you ever risked economic security? Have you ever risked a belief? Real courage is risking something you have to keep on living with. Real courage is risking something that might force you to rethink your thoughts and suffer change and stretch consciousness. Tom Robbins Met any heroes lately? |
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24 Jul 02 - 02:26 AM (#753527) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Kaleea I saw many programs on TV after 9-11 which discussed this exact subject. One definition which I particularly liked was one which "Charlie Gibson" on Good Morning America said, that a "hero" is an ordinary person who does something extraordinary to help or save another. (I am presuming that one does not need to qualify this by saying the the something extraordinary should be for good & not evil.) |
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24 Jul 02 - 05:54 AM (#753583) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: katlaughing I've known some heroes and heroines who did not take any direct action to save someone related or not. Their courage was in standing up and being counted, against the stream of the masses, in speaking out and risking all for a matter of principle, belief, conviction, etc. They are the ones who can write and put their names to it, publically, speaking for those who dare not. I do not mean as a victim, but as someone who sees a broader picture than is being generally presented and has the ability to present an alternative which speaks for those who may be victims of whatever social injustice, etc. they write about. Sometimes, it takes a lot of courage to put words to paper and have it published. kat |
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24 Jul 02 - 05:01 PM (#753973) Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero? From: Steve in Idaho Thank you Chip -
And no it has nothing to do with risking one's mortal life. I wonder if this particular GUEST has considered their words in light of their generalities that rarely apply.
And I meet them every day - Thank You very much -
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