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13 Sep 02 - 05:48 AM (#782865) Subject: Does anyone have any info? From: GUEST,andi at work Does any have any info on the story behind the song "Greenland Whale Fisheries"? or would you know where I could find it? I have tried searching on Google for information but came up with zilch? thanks andi |
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13 Sep 02 - 05:56 AM (#782868) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? From: katlaughing There's some info in this thread: please click here. If you put "greenland whale fisheries" in the supersearch box, without the quotation marks, there are several other threads which come up with it as the subject. Thanks, kat |
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13 Sep 02 - 05:59 AM (#782869) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? From: Bagpuss Just a friendly hint for the future, more people with the relevant info are likely to read the thread if you mention what it's about in the title. It also saves a lot of other people with no info the bother of clicking on the thread to find out if they know anything that can help. Bagpuss |
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13 Sep 02 - 06:01 AM (#782870) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? From: Murray MacLeod You just beat me to it, kat. What are do doing up so late? Or is it up so early? btw andi, when you ask for info it is always better to include the name of the song in the thread title. Murray |
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13 Sep 02 - 10:18 AM (#782984) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? From: Big Mick andi, the song is listed as "Greenland Fisheries" in The Collected Reprints From Sing Out, Volumes 1-6, 1959-1964. Here is what the introduction to the song says: "Reuben Ranzo was no sailor, so he shipped aboard a whaler" says a well known shanty. Regular seamen wouldn't ship on whalers, because conditions were so bad. Crews were impressed from waterfront malcontents, who hated everything and everybody. This hearty shanty should be sung with a strong rolling rhythm paying careful attention to the ups and downs of the story." |
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13 Sep 02 - 10:48 AM (#783014) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? From: curmudgeon First of all, it is a forebitter, not a shanty. According to A.L. Lloyd's notes on "Leviathan," it derives from a broadside of c. 1725, makijng it the oldest of the whaling ballads. The version Lloyd sings on this recording is a longer, more detailed narrative ballad than later English and American versions. Steer clear of the fluke -- Tom |
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13 Sep 02 - 12:31 PM (#783123) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? Greenland Fisheries From: katlaughing Okay, I put on my joeclone hat and added to the title; don't know why I didn't think of that at four in the morning!*bg* Late/early, Murray, it's all been the same, lately...no sleep!:-) kat |
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13 Sep 02 - 01:17 PM (#783153) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? Greenland Fisheries From: Kim C The Watersons did a good version of it. |
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13 Sep 02 - 01:35 PM (#783176) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? Greenland Fisheries From: Les from Hull Of the two digitrad versions, the earlier date is much more suitable. By the 1850s the Greenland Right Whale was getting very scarce, and setting off in June didn't make much sense (unless you were setting off from somewhere very close to Greenland). |
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13 Sep 02 - 02:06 PM (#783201) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? Greenland Fisheries From: Big Mick Tom, the post doesn't say it is a shanty. It simply uses a quote from a shanty to make a point. Mick |
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14 Sep 02 - 05:17 AM (#783719) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? Greenland Fisheries From: GUEST,andi from work Thanks to all of you. and Mr Macleod,sorry for thje omission, I may have to be at work at O'Dark Thrirty but I never claimed to function well..or at all. Kat, thanks for everything andi |
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14 Sep 02 - 06:48 AM (#783736) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? Greenland Fisheries From: Garry Gillard The Watersons' version is here. Garry |
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14 Sep 02 - 10:29 AM (#783783) Subject: RE: Does anyone have any info? Greenland Fisheries From: Big Tim The Pogues also did a great version on their "Red Roses For Me" album. |