20 Sep 02 - 03:32 AM (#788059) Subject: Tuppence on the rope From: Mr Happy i used to have the words to this one but they were lost. it was sung by gary & vera aspey + bernard wrigley. the song's about the workhouse system in england. anyone have the words, please? |
22 Sep 02 - 02:09 PM (#789079) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tuppence on the rope From: Jim Dixon "Tuppence on the Rope" is in the repertoire of Mappamundi, though they haven't recorded it. It also appears in the album "From the North" by Gary & Vera Aspey, Topic LP 255, 1975; and CDNOW says there is a soon-to-be-released CD. |
22 Sep 02 - 04:17 PM (#789141) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tuppence on the rope From: Gareth Mmmm ! I've not got the words before me but as an educated guess this might well be more orientated towards the "Tuppeny Leanovers", very bottom line itinerant 'lodging houses', were you paid a penny, or two penies to sleep leaning on a rope or netting. Fair description in "Mayhew's London Poor" Unfortunately me very old battered copy is somewhere in the attick so I can't post the general description. Any thoughts, and can somebody post the words please ?? Gareth |
24 Sep 02 - 11:22 PM (#790721) Subject: Lyr Add: TUPPENCE ON THE ROPE (Graney/Aspey) From: Stewie Here is my transcription of the Gary and Vera Aspey recording. Cheers, Stewie. TUPPENCE ON THE ROPE Words by Paul Graney, music by Gary and Vera Aspey As recorded by Gary and Vera Aspey on 'From the North' (Topic LP 12TS255, 1975)
1. A hobo's life is brave and free, I've often heard folks say,
CHORUS: But when you're down and nearly out, impossible to cope,
2. I've been in spikes the country round, met workhouse masters many.
3. In Glossop spike, there's bread and scrape, but oh, their work is hard!
4. Oh, evil day when a man cannot get to a spike in time, During the depression of the 1930s, thousands of unemployed men were obliged to take to the roads. At this time, attached to every parish workhouse was a casual ward or 'spike' which gave shelter for one night, after which the tramp would have to move on to the next town. In exchange for a meal of cocoa and bread and scrape (margarine), he was expected to work for a few hours. Because of this, he often found there was too little time to reach the next spike and so, unless he slept under a hedge or in a barn, he could try to beg a few coppers to go into a dosshouse and obtain a bed for about sixpence. If he failed to raise this sum, he could sleep on the rope for tuppence or, in some places, a penny. The rope was stretched across the width of the room and a man could hang with his arms over it for support. It was customary to untie the rope in the morning, and the whole row of men would collapse to the ground. [Vera Aspey] |
25 Sep 02 - 01:02 AM (#790764) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tuppence on the rope From: Jim Dixon I don't get it. Wouldn't it be more comfortable to sleep flat on the floor? |
25 Sep 02 - 03:05 AM (#790795) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tuppence on the rope From: Mr Happy stewie, all! the words! many thanks, mr h |
25 Sep 02 - 03:21 AM (#790799) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tuppence on the rope From: Stewie My pleasure, Mr H. I dunno, Jim, but I suspect it was a matter of space saving. You could get many more punters strung out vertically along the rope - at least they would be sheltered from the elements. Sounds most unpleasant, to say the least. Wouldn't the blood supply to the arms become restricted by the dead-weight pressure? --Stewie. |
25 Sep 17 - 07:04 AM (#3878610) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tuppence on the Rope (Aspey) From: GUEST,Tomsk They slept on the line to avoid the rats scurrying round at night and biting faces .. It was dry indoors and out of the cold . In 1800's Liverpool uk - the immigrants / refugees from Europe en route to America via the ships in port - used this method as they could not afford lodgings overnight. |