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Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002

11 Oct 02 - 10:10 AM (#801051)
Subject: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Jeri

I don't want to start this thread, but I think it needs to be started and no one else wants to do it either. We don't want him to be gone.
I enjoyed his scrappiness and the poetry and humor 'weeyin' brought to this place.

I think ljc posted his own farewell message here in July:


Death is nothing at all
I have only slipped away into the next room
I am I and you are you
whatever we were to each other
that we still are
call me by my old familiar name
speak to me in the easy way
which you always used
put no difference in your tone
wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow
laugh as we always laughed
at the little jokes we enjoyed together
pray smile, think of me, pray for me
Let my name be ever the household word
that it always was
Let it be spoken without effort
without the trace of a shadow in it
Life means all that it ever meant
it is the same as it ever was
there is unbroken continuity
why should I be out of mind
because I am out of sight?
I am waiting for you
somewhere very near
just around the corner
All is well


Henry Scott Holland
(1847-1918)


Many folks have posted in Bad News on ljc and 'The land o' the leal' for ljc

Search for "ljc" threads


11 Oct 02 - 10:15 AM (#801058)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Alice

Rest in peace, Johnny.


11 Oct 02 - 10:18 AM (#801062)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Mad axe murderer

Farewell little John

Say hello to my Mum for me


11 Oct 02 - 10:26 AM (#801071)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing

Thanks, Jeri.

Words fail me.

Fare well, ljc.

luvyakat


11 Oct 02 - 10:28 AM (#801074)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Dave the Gnome

I came across a lovely piece on a funeral service sheet written for a young friend of mine some time ago.

He has taken his big candle and gone away.
We can't see the light any more
but we know it is still there
Shining in another room.

I never knew John personaly but his rays of light in the often gloomy postings will certainly be missed.

Cheers

Dave the gnome


11 Oct 02 - 10:36 AM (#801085)
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From: Amos

Go with care, Little John.

A


11 Oct 02 - 10:39 AM (#801087)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: kendall

So long Little John, there is peace on the other side of the veil.


11 Oct 02 - 10:42 AM (#801088)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: SharonA

Be at rest and at peace, LJC.

Sharon


11 Oct 02 - 10:45 AM (#801090)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Rick Fielding

Farewell Johnnie Barr. Little John Cameron appeared to be a stage name, and he would hint (with a wink) at a wild and crazy upbringing across the pond....said he HAD to change his name, ha ha!

Yep, we had some fine and funny times, and I'm glad we met again on Mudcat after so many years. In a few days perhaps I'll start a thread about some of John's adventures while he lived in Toronto. Things like "The haunted rooming house", "The Electric Landlady", "The revenge of the Montreal music fan", and of course "Big Kay, and the reluctant job-hunter"..........yup, he drew a bad hand this time, just as I almost did earlier this summer. Many thoughts about John whirling around at the moment, but he met my absolute main criteria for leaving a mark on this world...he was ORIGINAL, and he could laugh at himself!

Cheers John

Rick


11 Oct 02 - 10:59 AM (#801102)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: catspaw49

I've had my say on the other threads....Thanks for sharing so much of you with us and thanks for the tales twice told that ialways improved with age. We love you John....Be at peace.

Spaw


11 Oct 02 - 11:32 AM (#801127)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Willie-O

Aw dammit.

Bless ye.

Rick's got the right idea accordin to John's own wishes, it appears. I look forward to these unlikely tales. Don't be lettin the exact truth of things get in the way, either, Rick.

Willie-O


11 Oct 02 - 11:34 AM (#801129)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)

Go in peace, good man.


11 Oct 02 - 11:50 AM (#801141)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST

Best of luck in the next place John.
We are fortunate that your postings remain & so we will be reminded of you as old threads are refreshed from time to time.


Kris


11 Oct 02 - 11:51 AM (#801142)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: weepiper

That's awfully sad news. LJC was always a ray of sunshine even when he was being sarcastic. What a loss to Mudcat.

I'll play the Lament For The Old Sword for him later.


11 Oct 02 - 12:00 PM (#801146)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Micca

"....The Flowers of the Forest are faded away....."
Micca and Cat


11 Oct 02 - 12:04 PM (#801150)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Seamus Kennedy

I'm a little confused. Can anyone explain the posting from LJC on the "Opus Dei" thread dated 07/15/02?
Is some tasteless hoax being perpetrated?

Seamus


11 Oct 02 - 12:08 PM (#801155)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: weepiper

His last post was on the 4th of September. I think the illness came on very quickly from what I've read in the Bad News on ljc thread.


11 Oct 02 - 12:10 PM (#801156)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Jimmy C

This is terrible news. He and his humour will be sadly missed. We shared a few gigs years ago in Toronto. Rest in peace wee man.


11 Oct 02 - 12:11 PM (#801157)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Mooh

"Life is eternal, love is immortal, and what we call death is only an horizon which is the limit of our sight." God be with you.

Peace, Mooh.


11 Oct 02 - 12:28 PM (#801166)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Giac

Good journey, Little John. Your words and humour were larger than life.

Mary


11 Oct 02 - 01:07 PM (#801198)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Taliesn

With all this gentle memorializing I was wondering when it would occur to some of his afficianadoes here to cut & paste
some of their favorite posts of this well-remembered soul
so that others can may enjoy what made him so memorableand so dear to y'all.

Just quote the passages of the humor & poetry of the man from whence he was among you and let his own "best" words continue to breathe life into his signature character.

I'll quote a line from dearly missed master artist Jimhensen's favorite filmwork,"The Dark Crystal" in defining what written words are: " Writing is words that stay".

I leave you with this gentle suggestion.


11 Oct 02 - 01:10 PM (#801206)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Amergin

seamus my friend...it is october....

sorry to hear of his spirit passing from his body....but like i said his spirit remains in his words...and in the hearts of those who loved him...


11 Oct 02 - 01:13 PM (#801207)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: sledge

His passing robs us of his wit and wisdom that would have made so many debates that much richer.

Stuart


11 Oct 02 - 01:14 PM (#801211)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha

I am shocked and very sad at this awful news,
I enjoyed his comments, he will be missed, there is a big gap on this Site. May he rest in peace. Ard Mhacha.


11 Oct 02 - 01:20 PM (#801217)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: khandu

"So, thou hast awakened from the illusory sleep! Laugh! Dance! Breathe the majesty of the Day! Worry not of those who still sleepeth. They, too, shall awaken soon."

Peace.

ken


11 Oct 02 - 01:24 PM (#801222)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Willie-O

by the by, I am shocked to learn that he perhaps wasn't a Cameron all his life...in rereading the following posts I suddenly see that the clan characteristic, our squinty nose, was something else he acquired along the way!

W-O



Subject: RE: Willie-O mp3.com CD Now Released
From: little john cameron - PM
Date: 14 Nov 00 - 05:41 PM

Guid stuff Wullie.Ah jist had a listen an the highest praise ye can get aff a Scotsman is"No bad,son"
Ah see by yer photie ye inherited the Cameron Neb. ljc


Subject: RE: Willie-O mp3.com CD Now Released
From: little john cameron - PM
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 02:06 PM
In The Mudcat Shop: Covenant

Wullie,mah nose wisnae too bad til ah wis runnin fae the lounge tae the puplic bar,or mibbe it wis the ither way aboot,in the Covenanters Inn in Abberfoyle,an ah never noticed the gless door wis shut.Ower the years a few fowk hae been tryin tae straighten it for me at least that's whit they said.. ljc


11 Oct 02 - 01:48 PM (#801230)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing

I did post something he'd sent me, in one of the other threads, about taking a nap during some flaming nonsense, as he called it. I know there are other favourite sayings which I will find, later, but this one was also rather significant, imo, from the PM's he and I exchanged in talking about life:

Yere richt on aboot the past lives. Ah hope this is mah last ane as a think the place is gaun doon the tubes.


11 Oct 02 - 01:53 PM (#801233)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: PeteBoom

Damn. Been a few days since I came in, all happy from the Ian Anderson concert I was at last night and see this thread. Yegodsanlittlefishes. Now I'm quite down.

Of all the bad broad scots posting folks I know (here and elsewhere) ljc was the best (or worst depending on one's viewpoint).

Pete


11 Oct 02 - 02:18 PM (#801259)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Lanfranc

"He who of the Rankine sang, lies stiff and deid
And a green, grassy hollock hides his heid
Alas! alas! a devilish change indeed!"

Robert Burns

RIP ljc

Alan


11 Oct 02 - 03:04 PM (#801288)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Steve in Idaho

The candle in my window is in my heart also - Go in peace Brother

Steve


11 Oct 02 - 03:04 PM (#801289)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Devilmaster

Fair Winds and a Following Sea, John

Steve


11 Oct 02 - 03:09 PM (#801290)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,JE

Fruitless and chance gift, my breath,
Why were you given to me,
And why were you condemned to death
By inscrutable destiny?
Who fashioned brain and eye and limb
From nothingness, and gave
My spirit an immortal dream
And knowledge of the grave?
I weep because the only sound
Is life's monotonous,
Sad, aimless, endless lull, the ground-
Swell of the universe.
~Alexander Pushkin

If you know not how to die, never trouble yourself; Nature will in a moment fully and sufficiently instruct you; she will exactly do that business for you; take you no care for it. ~Montaigne

Bodily offspring I do not leave, but mental offspring I do. Well, my books do not have to be sent to school and college and then insist on going into the Church or take to drinking or marry their mother's maid. ~Samuel Butler

But if you come, perhaps you will fill my mind only with new visions; not with yourself but with your lustres, and I shall not be able any more than now to converse with you. So I will owe to my friends this evanescent intercourse. I will receive from them not what they have, but what they are. They shall give me that which properly they cannot give me, but which emanates from them. But they shall not hold me by any relations less subtle and pure. We will meet as though we met not, and part as though we parted not. ~RW Emerson


11 Oct 02 - 03:10 PM (#801292)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Morticia

Goodbye John, I will miss you.


11 Oct 02 - 04:37 PM (#801345)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow

Well, here's a link to his picture in the Mudcat photo archives.


11 Oct 02 - 04:42 PM (#801346)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow

Two pictures - a kiltie one and a biker one.

Couldn't we get the magic translation machine to give us a Scots option? And then when we were missing him we could put the posts through it and read them the way John might have written them.


11 Oct 02 - 04:49 PM (#801350)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Amergin

well mcgrath....we do have this....



scots translator


11 Oct 02 - 05:01 PM (#801355)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Dharmabum

Rest in peace John.

      DB.


11 Oct 02 - 05:25 PM (#801367)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Tweed

Farewell LJC. I'm cryin'.


11 Oct 02 - 05:25 PM (#801368)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow

Here's what that Scots translator of Amergin came up with for "It was good to have known you even a little, John":

"It was mental tae huv knoon ye e'en a wee, john."


11 Oct 02 - 05:27 PM (#801370)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: RolyH

Thanks ljc


11 Oct 02 - 05:33 PM (#801373)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Steve Latimer

Farewell LJC.


11 Oct 02 - 05:39 PM (#801378)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bardford

Farewell,ljc.Good company,you.


11 Oct 02 - 05:59 PM (#801391)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Liz the Squeak

Nothing I can add except my name to the list.

LTS


11 Oct 02 - 06:53 PM (#801424)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: CapriUni

An example of Little John's artistry with the Scots tongue went far beyond the biting comment, as is shown by this poem, which he posted back in April:

The Bogle.

Coorie doon mah bairnies,lie up agin the wa, An' ah'll come in an' tell ye aboot the Bogle that ah saw.
Ah'm no' scairt o' Bogles,they dinnae frichten me, If he comes haundy tae me,ah'll punch him in the ee'.

Aye,ye're a richt wee holy terror,bit ah'm no' as brave as that,
He wis creepin ower the auld stane dyke,as quiet as a cat.
He thocht ah didnae see him for ah wis mair than fu'
bit ah smelled the awfy reek o' him as it trauchled doon his broo.

Ah tried tae turn an' rin awa,bit mah legs were frozen fast,
Mah blood ran cauld,ah couldnae move ,ah thocht ah'd breathed mah last.
His voice rang oot like a strangled dug,An' his airms were closin in,
Ah,ve got ye noo ye drunken loon,he said wi' a ghastly grin.

The past,it flashed afore mah e'en,every pint that passed mah lips,
even a braw wee single malt ah kept for special nips.
Ah'll gie it up ah cried oot lood,nae mair booze for me,
The Bogle said ye've bairnies twa,so ane mair chance ah'll gie ye.

Ah'll be waitin at the pub at nicht tae see if ye are there,
so ye better keep yer word tae me an' no' drink oney mair.
There's plenty ither loons tae grab,the world is fu' o' boozers
Gie up the drink an' then mak sure ye're no' amang the losers.

So aff he went back ower the dyke,laughin tae himsel'
Ah sobered up an' came richt hame mah story for tae tell
The Bogle gied me ane mair chance, fae noo oan ah'll be wary,
For booze an' Bogles dinnae mix,it's faur too bloody scary.

ljc

The complete thread can be found here: The Bogle.ljc

Is this in the Mudcat Songbook? If not -- it should be!!


11 Oct 02 - 07:16 PM (#801434)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Marion

Go in peace, John.

Marion


11 Oct 02 - 07:31 PM (#801445)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing

You can still tip a few over at John's Scottish ex-pat Blether Bar and Grill; it hasn't really been up since '01, but there are some fine postings there and his initial opening about it.

kat


11 Oct 02 - 07:36 PM (#801453)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing

And, there are many of his stories as "weeyin" at this site: Scribbler's (scroll down and on the left)


11 Oct 02 - 07:52 PM (#801460)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Peter K (Fionn)

A huge loss to Mudcat, and (I would guess) to the 3D world as well, and so soon after dear old Annraoi shuffling off. Tunes of Glory comes to mind.


11 Oct 02 - 07:56 PM (#801462)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Lepus Rex

Well, damn. Sorry to hear this. He'll be missed.

---Lepus Rex


11 Oct 02 - 07:57 PM (#801463)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Susanne (skw)

It's good to think ljc doesn't have to suffer any more, and it's good to have known him as a Mudcatter, if not in 'real life'. My sympathy to all his friends and family.

What's the life of a man any more than a leaf
Man has his seasons so why should he grieve
Though all through this life we appear fine and gay
Like a leaf we must wither and soon fade away

Still my favourite song for these sad occasions.


11 Oct 02 - 07:57 PM (#801464)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: michaelr

Wee john cameron has passed awa' an' Ah am huir uv a sad.

(Done with the Scots Translator linked above)

Michael


11 Oct 02 - 08:52 PM (#801476)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,A country singer

Johhnie's Scots patter was great fun, but keep an eye out for his album "Sit Down Mr. Music Man" on Boot records. It's out of print but turns up all the time in used record stores. Two other Mudcatters, Rick Fielding and Glen Reid were also on Boot Records. It was THE Canadian label for a while, and featured Liona Boyd the classical guitarist as well.

Happy trails Johnnie.


11 Oct 02 - 09:02 PM (#801480)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Jeri

Kat - I think you have a page of older messages bookmarked.
Try http://www.voy.com/48866/ - it seems to be going strong, and they're saying goodbye too.


11 Oct 02 - 09:30 PM (#801489)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: MMario

The tune is ended but the harmonies and the echoes linger on

I doubt I will ever again bed able to see something written in dialect - of any sort- without thinking of little john.

He will be missed greatly


11 Oct 02 - 09:38 PM (#801495)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: The Pooka

Fare thee weel little johnny. You were the Giftie here; & thank you for all the gifts of yourself you gave us. Never will we forget you.

And there's a hand, my trusty fiere,
And gie's a hand o' thine!
And we'll tak a right guid-willie-waught,
For auld lang syne.


11 Oct 02 - 09:39 PM (#801497)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Stewie

Vale. My condolences to his family.


No circle has been broken here
No one that stands alone
The threads of life, so lately broke
Are woven through our own (/em)

From Si Kahn 'Memorial'.


11 Oct 02 - 10:17 PM (#801521)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Chip2447

Rest Well little John. May you find what you seek.
"Johnny I hardly knew ye."

Chip2447


11 Oct 02 - 10:20 PM (#801522)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,chordstrangler

Farewell John. May God hold you warm in the palm of his hand.   M


11 Oct 02 - 11:11 PM (#801539)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: alison

we'll miss you LJC............ see you on the other side

slainte

alison


11 Oct 02 - 11:17 PM (#801542)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing

Thanks, Jeri.


11 Oct 02 - 11:25 PM (#801549)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Big Mick

Wee John Cameron got awa' an' we sre eh poorer fur it. as Ah said afair, he infected thes place wi' a joyoos sense ay irreverence an' loove ay life. It wulnae be a whieest nicht at yam fur eh lads oan eh other side ay eh veil. Enjoy heem, boyos, fur we surely huv loo'd havin' heem haur, an' will miss heem mightily. Tae those 'at loo'd heem, beevy eh wee drap, greit eh greit, an' ken 'at we sre sorry fur yer loss an' oors an aw. I think a trip tae eh brae wi' eh auld law D tae play an air is in order. tae ljc...............God be mental tae heem.

Sadly,

Mick


12 Oct 02 - 04:05 AM (#801598)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Boab

"Mourn, ilka grove the cushat kens!
Ye hazly shaws an' briery dens!
ye burnies wimplin doon yer glens
Wi' toddlin din,
Or foaming, strang, wi' hasty stens,
Fae lin tae lin!"

   Frae Boab, compliments o' Rabbie Burns---an' ye'll no need oney translater, ljc!


12 Oct 02 - 04:46 AM (#801609)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Cappuccino

Very sorry to hear it.

- Ian B


12 Oct 02 - 08:57 AM (#801690)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: black walnut

Peace.

~b.w.


12 Oct 02 - 09:52 AM (#801701)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Mike Regenstreif

I was very sad to hear of Little John Cameron's passing. I once mentioned that I have a copy of LJC's LP called "Sit Down Mr. Music Man." He told me that he always wondered who the one person was who had it.

Mike Regenstreif


12 Oct 02 - 09:59 AM (#801708)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bullfrog Jones

When the time is right I look forward to hearing the stories to add to the memory of his wonderful postings.
Nos da, LJC.

BJ


12 Oct 02 - 10:36 AM (#801721)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Glen Reid

First time I ever met Wee John was in 1968 in Rick Fieldings living room when he lived on Admiral Rd. in Toronto.He was singing a song I heard for the very first time "Ramblin' Boy" by Tom Paxton.
The last verse of the song seems almost prophetic in hindsight.

"He left us here to ramble on.
My wanderin' pal is dead and gone.
If when we die we go somewhere.
I'll bet you a dollar, he's ramblin' there"

Go in peace, old friend,
Love Glen


12 Oct 02 - 11:06 AM (#801734)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Nigel Parsons

"The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on;"
We can still access his writing, and will remember.

RIP LJC

nigel


12 Oct 02 - 12:42 PM (#801780)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Sorcha

If I send a card to the hospital, will they get it to his family? I found 6 Barr's in Newfie, but none were John/Johnny.


12 Oct 02 - 01:47 PM (#801820)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: fat B****rd

My condolences to all his family and friends. RIP ljc.


12 Oct 02 - 01:49 PM (#801824)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Liz the Squeak

This was penned earlier this year... it seems appropriate.

We gather here together, friends both old and new,
To share our songs and laughter, tell a stirring tale or two.
But time is rolling onwards, and the toll it takes is dear;
And every year there's one less voice, who will it be next year?

When first we met in company, when none the other knew,
We shared our songs and laughter, and friendships bloomed and grew.
In harmony and unison, our voices blended clear;
But every year there's one less voice, who will it be next year?

The songs we sang were old ones, songs of peace and war,
Of sailing ships and lovers' arms, the miners' life and more.
But all of them in common, were pleasing to the ear;
But every year there's one less voice, who will it be next year?

So raise your voices up boys, in memory of those now gone.
Give thanks for those who gather to carry on the song,
And keep it ringing out now, keep singing through the tears,
So every year there's one more voice, who will it be next year?

Tune: The Rose of York (My name it is McBrennan)
Sat 24 Aug 2002, for Fliss, Rod, Dave, Wally, Tony and all the others.
They aren't here but they know who they are.


12 Oct 02 - 01:54 PM (#801827)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bobert

Danged!

Being a relative new comer, I didn't know John the way may of you did but from the feelings that I read here, I missed someone very special.

Rest in Peace, brother, and know that you touched so many hearts and, hey, that's what its all about...

Bobert


12 Oct 02 - 02:06 PM (#801840)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: SINSULL

Just adding my prayers and my tears. Goodbye, John.


12 Oct 02 - 02:31 PM (#801849)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Seamus Kennedy

Amergin, thanks for pointing out the month discrepancy to me.
My eyes were playing tricks. More likely I didn't want to believe that Little John was going. Sorry about that, folks.
He'll be mourned and missed.

Seamus


12 Oct 02 - 02:38 PM (#801853)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Tweed

Here's a link to one of ljc's songs that he sent me. I reckon many of you have heard this one but many probably haven't. I figger he must have liked it well enough to send it off to a perfect stranger.
It's real nice. Takes a while to load but plays very well on Windows Media.   
Johnny Cameron's Tribute to Newfoundland MP3


12 Oct 02 - 02:43 PM (#801854)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Peter T.

Oh crap. Just when I was celebrating a wedding around here, a Mudcat stalwart passes. We are certainly getting life flowing through this little space of electrons, but I sure would have liked to have met Little John, he was such a character. yours, Peter T.


12 Oct 02 - 04:57 PM (#801891)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Jeri

Tweed, thanks. First time I've heard him.

Seamus, I don't know that he thought he was leaving when he posted that poem. I don't have any idea if he got so sick all of a sudden or had been fighting it for a long time and just didn't want to deal with how folks would treat him. It seemed to me he was saying, in that message and that thread, just a little bit more than his opinion on "what happens when you die." He posted the poem without comment and when others discussed and argued, he let the poem stand on it's own.

The poem isn't primarily about what happens after death. It's the words of a dying man reassuring and comforting those left behind. So maybe he knew and maybe he hoped we'd find it again after he was gone. Maybe he didn't, but it's still a fine 'goodbye'.


12 Oct 02 - 04:59 PM (#801893)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing

Tweed, thank you so much for the tune. I have really been regretting that I'd never heard John. Thanks to you, I'll be able to listen whenever I like, esp. when I get lonesome for some of his blethering in the threads.:-)


12 Oct 02 - 05:11 PM (#801903)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Tweed

Yore both very welcome. It is a darn nice sounding song ain't it? Good on you ljc! You all might want to see if you can save it if you want it as I don't know how long I'll be able to keep it in the file. It's a monstrous big old 2,000,000 bytes of song and I may have to take it down one day.


12 Oct 02 - 05:33 PM (#801912)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Margaret

I'm not a member of this site, but also knew John. I'll miss him!

Someone mentioned about John's stories. You can find some of them here http://www.geocities.com/scribbler01uk/Scribbler.html


12 Oct 02 - 05:51 PM (#801919)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Little Hawk

Little John once composed a reworking of Hamlet's soliloquy in his own unique Scots dialect, and it was a treat to read. I wish I could find it and post it here. I thank him for the many amusing moments he gave to me and many others, and the many insights he provided. As far as I'm concerned, he will always be with us.

- LH


12 Oct 02 - 05:59 PM (#801922)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Frank Maher

Hi Sorcha,
His Name is Under John Cameron in the Phone Book..Phone#709-437-6806
All the Best


12 Oct 02 - 06:28 PM (#801931)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Rustic Rebel

Happy Trails LJC
Rustic


12 Oct 02 - 07:37 PM (#801965)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Sorcha

OK. Thanks, Frank, I think I found it.
John Cameron
Dodd's Lane
Torbay, NF
Canada

(hope it gets there.....)
I wonder why Cameron instead of Barr if Cameron was a "taken" name? Oh well, not important.


12 Oct 02 - 08:02 PM (#801974)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Frank Maher

His area Code is A1K 1J4


12 Oct 02 - 08:23 PM (#801980)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Mary in Kentucky

My deepest condolences to John's family. Like someone said above, I'll always think of him when I read dialect. Wish I could have heard his voice.


12 Oct 02 - 08:57 PM (#801991)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: DancingMom

Fare thee well. Sharon


12 Oct 02 - 11:09 PM (#802039)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bert

The words of Tom Paxton come to mind.

...If there's a place we go somewhere
I bet you a dollar he's Ramblin' there...

Bye old chap, we're gonna miss you.


13 Oct 02 - 05:18 AM (#802128)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Escamillo

My humble homage for Little John Cameron from this far place. I wish for you peace and the ethernal love of your family and friends, and I wish for myself to be loved by a tenth of so many people when my turn comes.

Andrés (sometimes sad and silent by always present)


13 Oct 02 - 02:51 PM (#802359)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: John MacKenzie

I keep reading this thread, and trying to think of something appropriate to say. All my thoughts come back to, I'm so so sorry that he's gone. Going to miss him and that's it.
Vaya con dios John.


13 Oct 02 - 06:05 PM (#802481)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,rangersteve

I've never been good at things like this, so I'll just say that what everyone else has already said, I feel the same.


13 Oct 02 - 06:35 PM (#802494)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: RichM

See what you lost when you left this world, this sweet old world
See what you lost when you left this world, this sweet old world
The breath from your own lips, the touch of fingertips
A sweet and tender kiss
The sound of a midnight train, wearing someone's ring
Someone calling your name
Somebody so warm cradled in your arm
Didn't you think you were worth anything
See what you lost when you left this world, this sweet old world
See what you lost when you left this world, this sweet old world...


"Sweet Old World" by Lucinda Williams


14 Oct 02 - 04:17 AM (#802650)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Wolfgang

Farewell, ljc

Wolfgang


14 Oct 02 - 05:38 AM (#802662)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: gnu

Rest in peace.


14 Oct 02 - 09:40 AM (#802753)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Gord

I knew John, briefly, many years ago, we both worked at the same company. I had known of him through his music and his time with the Sons of Erin, but it was a particular treat to sit in the lunch room and listen to his stories. I haven't seen him in nearly 20 years, but remember him fondly. Go in peace.


14 Oct 02 - 09:52 AM (#802765)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: 53

I'm sorry to hear this.


14 Oct 02 - 10:15 AM (#802784)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Kim C

He did not particularly like me calling him Mr. Cameron, but I dunno, he seemed like a Mr. to me. I especially enjoyed his stories. I never heard him sing, though. Does anyone have a link to any sound bites?


14 Oct 02 - 11:11 AM (#802820)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing

There is one up near the top of this thread, Kim. I think it was Mary in Kentucky who posted it.


14 Oct 02 - 02:24 PM (#802934)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Mrrzy

Very sorry to read this. His postings were sought.


14 Oct 02 - 04:09 PM (#802996)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Tweed

Here's that link to one of ljc's songs KimC.

Tribute to Newfoundland MP3


14 Oct 02 - 05:27 PM (#803036)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: CapriUni

Is that himself singing, Tweed?

(downloaded before... will listen again)


14 Oct 02 - 05:33 PM (#803038)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Sorcha

Yes.


14 Oct 02 - 05:36 PM (#803042)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: CarolC

I'm really going to miss you ljc. I wish you could have been here long enough for me to meet you in person, but I'm sure you knew what was best. Thanks for all the music. Long may your big jib draw.

Carol


15 Oct 02 - 07:13 AM (#803411)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: greg stephens

My first introduction to ljc was shortly after joining Mudcat. There was a surly and sarcastic broad Scots reply to something I had posted, accompanied by a friendly, chatty and welcoming personal message! What a gent. I'll miss his humour.


19 Oct 02 - 04:41 PM (#806854)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bearheart

Been absent from Mudcat for awhile due to other responsibilities. What a shock to come back and to find him gone. Thanks to everyone for posting everything-- songs, pictures, and good thoughts. I'm going to miss his presence a lot. One of the people I always think of when I think of Mudcat.

Bekki


03 Apr 07 - 09:53 PM (#2015748)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Jo-Anne Power

today is april ..2007. People...no one in Johns family knew of this websites existence until two days ago. I was led to it today by an email from Johns daughter. You see...she knew too look for weeyin.
I found this tonight..As I write to you all i will say..I have looked over many conversations...and had many a chuckle with all of you. I knew John well too. His wife was overwhelmed by how many of you called her and sent her cards but she never knew how to respond to you. She doesnt use a computer and until two days ago..none of us knew about this website. I will be sure to hook up my printer and print off all of your messages if she wants me to. I will ask her. I have tears streaming down my face. You all loved him as much as all of us...THAT is so obvious in the readings. thank you so much for your shared memories via this website. I miss him so much as I am sure do all of you. Thank you so much for all of this. John will forever be remembered through the words of all of you ...his friends.
I promise to talk to his widow and ask her if she wishes to have a copy of all of this. After all this time I am sure you would all understand if she found it too hard. I have found it to be very very emotional but so very touching and wonderful at the same time. I was at his funeral service. I am not sure if any of you know any of the details. If you wish to know I would be more than willing to tell you. It was beautiful. So John. It was what he wanted. rocksbyjo@yahoo.ca. Well..I am crying my eyes out...but it is a good cry...you have all made me feel wonderful love and friendship ..
Wow you guys....I have to tell you..this has been very powerful...it is 2007!!!...THis many years later and John reaches out to me? I have been searching and searching for a fabulous webcam site for Loch ness and have never been able to find one..and tonight thru one of johns messages...that he left for a friend...lo and behold....tonight...April 2007...Johnny reached out and showed me the website and even the link to his song online...
People..i am amazed...but hell...anyone who knew John knew ..that was John...amazing

I hope i dont upset any of you by this being so many years later...but I do have to say..this has been a wonderful find. We thought he was fading into obscurity because no online details came up on a websearch for Little Johnny Cameron. Until one added "weeyin" ...here was nothing...and then ...voila...one finds you.

My husband and I are putting one of his albums to CD.
Email us if you wish any other contacts or information.

Thank you...and wow...this is amazing.

Sincerely

Jo-Anne Power
Newfoundland Canada


03 Apr 07 - 10:12 PM (#2015767)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bill D

*a few tears myself*

Jo-Anne...many of us felt like we knew him, as his wit and lust for life shone in his many postings. After 10 years, Mudcat has become quite a community, and like many communities, we lose a valued member sometimes.

It is with mixed emotions, as YOU know, that we are reminded...even more so because we can go back and read Johns words, just as he left them. I hope the tributes posted here really DO help his friends and family to realize how good the man was...even beyond what they knew..

Thank you for sharing your feelings....


03 Apr 07 - 10:14 PM (#2015769)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bill D

(and I expect there will be requests for that CD!...I want one)


04 Apr 07 - 12:37 AM (#2015835)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: katlaughing

Me, too. Thanks Jo-Anne for posting all of the information for us. Our best to you and John's widow. He is still sadly missed here. Did you take a look at the Members Photos section? Click on the Quick Links, the Members Photos and have a look at one he sent in of himself.

All the best,

kat


04 Apr 07 - 12:41 AM (#2015838)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: Peace

http://www.mudcat.org/photos/images/little_john_cameron1.jpg

http://www.mudcat.org/photos/images/little_john_cameron2.jpg

They are links to LJC's photos, Jo-Anne.


04 Apr 07 - 01:07 AM (#2015847)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: catspaw49

Hi Jo-Anne.....I bet he's happy too that you found us. We were just talking in another thread this AM about 'Catters no longer with us and of course John came up right away. He and I shared a lot of varied interests not always common to the general "folkie" (whatever that is.....Is there one?......anyway)........Not long before he was hospitalized last he and I talked at length about a motorcycle he was thinking about acquiring.

Like many around the 'Cat we both loved writing and we had each surrounded our writings with a cast of characters based in reality but no one specifically. As Scots settled much of Appalachia and my characters were good ol' boys who had slipped through the crack in the American Dream, he thought there would be much humor in this clan from BOTH sides of the Atlantic, meeting after all these years and seeing where things led. It could have been hilarious and I will always regret we didn't get into some of it right away.

Thanks so much for coming by and sharing with us. Come back anytime just for yourself and enjoy the 'Cat as John did. We'd love to have you.

Spaw


04 Apr 07 - 07:27 AM (#2015989)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: Big Mick

Jo-Anne, one of the things that I do when one passes is to see if their voice goes on. It is the way that I know that folks haven't really left us, that they are with us in a real way. How sad it would be to know that when one breathes his/her last breath, all that they were and all that they did, died with them. The other side of that is the joy, just as you have shown us, when one realizes that their loved one lives on in the hearts of others. Little John is one of our most beloved members, and the years have not dimmed the memory of him. Rick Fielding was the friend of many here, and some of us spent considerable time with him. He used to talk of the Irish band he and John played in. He would joke about the Arran sweaters, and effecting phony Irish accents. He thought the world of John. And now the two of them are playing music together (told ya, Rick!!!).

God be good to the both of them.

Mick


04 Apr 07 - 08:48 PM (#2016772)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: GEST

Coincidentally, John's daughter, Katy, wrote to me early this morning to correct a transcription error in one of her dad's songs which was archived at GEST Songs of Newfoundland and Labrador prior to my taking the site over from Frank White in 2002.

Whoever contributed the lyrics transcribed "shingling sand" instead of "shingle and sand" as Johnny had written it. When I wrote back to confirm the correction, I told Katy I also added a definition of 'shingle' in a footnote for any future visitors, so there would be no future misunderstanding.

Then, tonight, I check in at the Mudcat and find all these additions to a five year old thread all about the man who, as can be easily seen from his song, was a most excellent songwriter.

I salute Little Johnny Cameron, a man I never knew, in the same spirit as he shared in his Tribute To Newfoundland.


04 Apr 07 - 10:44 PM (#2016890)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: JGP(Jo)

Thank you to all of your for your reponses. I have received emails from some members requesting a copy of the CD when it is done. Anyone else is free to indicate an interest at rocksbyjo@yahoo.ca. It is so exciting to speak with all of you..John spoke of all of you often..and yes..he was even honest and spoke of how sometimes he got himself into "hot water"... It was so nice to reconnect with him and to meet all of you. Thank you for your generosity and welcome..thank you so much for the information and the links to the photos and everything...I cannot tell you how delighted my husband was this morning when I was able to play Tribute to Newfoundland for him on CD. He misses Johnny very much. He explored the website with me this morning and shed a few tears but also had a lot of chuckles and good old Newfie belly laughs with all of you..Johnny used to ride with my husband on the harley..he so loved to go for a ride...drop into the pub with the helmet in hand...knowing all the women and men were checking out the "bikers" who just walked in...cant ya just picture it..lol..
thank you...all of you..for keeping him alive by memory and love and friendship. I look forward to getting his music on CD so we can all share his wonderful voice once again. ((not to mention generating some air time and royalties for his wife..lol))...I already have interested radio stations who wish to purchase the CD upon completion. This was Johns dream. We asked his wife if we could make his dream come true so that all of us out there who love John so much can keep him just a little bit closer. I look forward chatting with many of you. Katy (Johns daughter) is the one who directed me to this site...it is thanks to her that I was able to make my husbands dream of hearing John on CD a reality on April 04..his birthday is April 05!!!He misses the ole bugger too!!!lol
I will shaddup now..sorry for being so long winded...and yes...I do agree...that it is a bit odd to be stirring him up after all this time...kind of like makes me feel like he wanted us to all meet???Now I will REALLY shaddup.
Talk soon


04 Apr 07 - 10:50 PM (#2016892)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: JGP(Jo)

OH..on another note..I was speaking with Mrs Barr..and she was very touched by what I had to tell her and was very pleased I was able to get Tribute to Newfoundland on CD. She asked me to say thank you. She feels it would be too emotional to read all of this now after all this time..and I think each and every one of us will understand this. She remembers well how so many of you phoned her and extended your sympathies as many of you knew she didnt use a computer..and some of you phoned whether yu knew or not...you all know what I mean. but she wanted me to pass on her thanks.


05 Apr 07 - 01:23 PM (#2017431)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: gnu

Did not anyone to miss the LJC CD thread here.


05 Apr 07 - 04:57 PM (#2017668)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: Ebbie

I love the little serendipities of life. I often think of Little John when I'm immersed in the Cat and literally just the other day Jacqui C started a thread where, of course, ljc's name and persona came up and was dwelt upon. And now here he is back. I sometimes wonder if - and suspect it is true - those we have 'lost' are just out of sight somewhere enjoying us hugely.


05 Apr 07 - 09:36 PM (#2017917)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: JGP(Jo)

Ebbie...I always imagine him harrassing the mermaids...or off to Italy to have coffee...and watching over all of us...having a huge amount of enjoyment....
so maybe ya arent far wrong...lol

Ps...I have always felt the serendipities in life are life's way of having a laugh at our expense...lol


05 Apr 07 - 09:44 PM (#2017923)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: Sorcha

'Serendipities of Life'.....I LOVE it!!! (ps...of COURSE they are!!!)


06 Apr 07 - 04:26 AM (#2018095)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: guitar

I didn't know him, but it is sad when one of us dies.

tom


06 Apr 07 - 06:35 PM (#2018670)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: JGP(Jo)

If you listen to his song Tribute to Newfoundland found on mudcat guitar ..u might feel you do just a little bit. John wrote that song ...and if any of you are wondering why he sings of Ireland instead of Scotland as he was a scotsman.......he said...Scotland didnt rhyme!!!..LOL


15 Dec 10 - 01:46 PM (#3054149)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: GUEST,Paulette-Sister In-Law

Rest in Peace Johnny...


15 Dec 10 - 03:03 PM (#3054186)
Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002
From: C-flat

Many of us still remember LJC with great fondness. It was like talking to Oor Wullie himself at times, something I always delighted in.
RIP