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15 Oct 02 - 06:47 AM (#803402) Subject: James Thornton From: Orac Does anyone have a pic of James Thornton who wrote "When you were sweet sixteen" in 1898 (and lots of others). His music used to carry a picture of his wife who sang his songs but never a pic of himself. Although he didn't die till 1939 I can't seem to find a photo of him. Can anyone help? |
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16 Oct 02 - 02:57 AM (#804181) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull |
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16 Oct 02 - 04:10 AM (#804208) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: Brakn No photo but I can tell you somethings. He was born at 50 Kew Street, Liverpool on the 1st Dec. 1861. His father was John Thornton, a baker and his mother was Catherine Thornton nee Molloy. They were married in Liverpool 13th May 1855. |
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16 Oct 02 - 04:23 AM (#804212) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: Joan from Wigan Can't find any pics on a quick search, but his date of death is listed as July 27, 1938, not 1939, on various websites. Joan |
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16 Oct 02 - 06:18 AM (#804244) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: songs2play I noticed the Sheet Music which may be of interest. |
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16 Oct 02 - 08:40 AM (#804300) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: Orac Thanks Joan.. I posted the date from memory... which seems to be failing these days :-( Thanks also to Brakn .. You seem to have a different birthday than that in all Biogs which always give his birth date as 5th Dec 1861. Where did you get your info from? Do you have family connections? |
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16 Oct 02 - 08:56 AM (#804313) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: Brakn Orac I'm no relation, just interested. I do family trees as a hobby. I got the info from a copy of his birth cert. Also I got a copy of his parents marriage cert. He may have been baptised on the fifth. It was sometimes considered to be a more important date. I had noticed that a search on the internet would come up with that different date. It's not surprising. If you do a search for John Lennon's family tree, there's not one site that has it correct or even one book printed that's right. These mistakes get handed down. |
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16 Oct 02 - 09:22 AM (#804333) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: Orac Thanks for the info. I'm into genealogy too. Been tracing my tree since 1978. I've got William Heath-Robinson on my tree which prob accounts for things going wrong. Can I be cheeky and ask for a scan of the certificates. |
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16 Oct 02 - 03:11 PM (#804692) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: Joan from Wigan The biog. I came across which does give his date of birth as 1st December 1861 is here: A Composer's and Lyricists Database. Joan |
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17 Oct 02 - 05:01 AM (#805160) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: Brakn Orac PM me with your email address. |
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18 Oct 02 - 04:39 AM (#805904) Subject: RE: James Thornton From: Orac Joan, you are quite right. The page I was looking at was called "The big bands data base plus" which lists birthdays of people in the music world. I've sent them an Email re: their error. By the way I've got hold of a 1922 recording of When you were sweet sixteen ... if its any good I'll send you a copy ... when it arrives from the States. |