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16 Oct 02 - 05:15 PM (#804810) Subject: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: katlaughing Is there a way to trace someone by email addy? We've had a credit card compromised, which has been taken care of, but I'd like to trace the fool who did so. I have their email addy and have traced it to their server. Thanks, kat |
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16 Oct 02 - 05:20 PM (#804815) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: NicoleC You can have your credit card contact their service provider and ask. They are unlikely to tell you for privacy reasons, but they may cooperate with an investigation. That doesn't mean the person provided accurate information to their service provider, though, and if it's something like a Hotmail or Yahoo address, I think you're out of luck. If they have their own domain, you can do a WHOIS search and get the name of the folks that registered the domain. |
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16 Oct 02 - 05:33 PM (#804823) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: Bill D best place I know is Sam Spade lots of tricks, and non-commercial |
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16 Oct 02 - 06:33 PM (#804860) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: katlaughing Thnaks, both of you. Nicole, I thought I was in luck because it wasn't hotmail or yahoo. I did a WHOIS and found it was something which comes under earthlink. Bill, thanks, I will have to study that a bit to understand everything it can do, but I did do a search and all it told me was about the .net that I'd already traced to earthlink. Nothing on the actual person. Is there something I did wrong, or am I expecting too much? Really appreciate it, thanks! |
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16 Oct 02 - 06:44 PM (#804871) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: NicoleC Earthlink has bought so many ISPs now, that's not surprising! If it's an Earthlink company, your CC company can contact Earthlink and request his info. They won't give it to you as an individual -- fortunately they don't give out addresses and such to just anyone who asks! If your CC won't follow up (they may consider it too small for the time it would take), you could forward the information to abuse@domain.net and report him. If nothing else, you might get 'em to cancel his email account :) |
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16 Oct 02 - 06:45 PM (#804872) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: Murray MacLeod Correct me if I am wrong, but don't ALL ISPs require credit card verification? Is NicoleC saying that Yahoo and Hotmail services are free and don't require a monthly payment? If you record your bank details and/or credit card details then you are traceable. But maybe I am wrong.(What do I know, I use AOL....) Murray |
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16 Oct 02 - 06:48 PM (#804873) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: NicoleC The free web services like Hotmail, etc. don't ever verify info, and you don't need a credit card. You can say your name is Bugs Bunny and you live in Iceland. So even if they reported your info, it wouldn't necessarily be true. Lots of unsavory scammers and spanners use these web accounts for a couple of days, pull up stakes and get a new one. No tracing. Now... it wouldn't help if the guilty party set up their ISP with Kat's credit card! |
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16 Oct 02 - 06:56 PM (#804882) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: Murray MacLeod Nicole, just talk me through this one OK? It is possible to get a HoOmail account, dial up, get Web access, email and everything totally free? Murray |
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16 Oct 02 - 07:02 PM (#804886) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: katlaughing No, Murray, you have to have a monthly server, first, who you have to pay for access, unless you use a public one at the library or somesuch, BUT after that, you can get as many FREE email addys as you may want form any number of websites, including Hotmail, Yahoo, etc. using any name, addy, etc. as you may desire, as Nicole says. I'd like to know how he got my CC number. Nicole, I think you are right about my CC company. It was only $51 and it has already been deleted by the internet billing company which handled it, so my CC doesn't really have anything to fight for. I like the idea of reporting it and him maybe losing his account, though. :-) I've resisted emailing the wanker as I don't even want to get into with someone who would do such a thing, as well as give him any more info. Really makes me wonder about being connected via cable 24/7, though, even with ZoneAlarm. Thanks, kat |
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16 Oct 02 - 07:24 PM (#804898) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: Amos You can try a "Finger" utility, kat, but the chances are there won't be a result with a mass supplier like earthlink. So the ISP is probably as close as you are going to get. The best path would be to report the matter to abuse@earhtlink.net (or similar address that came up on your WhoIs result) and advise the ISP of the criminal activity being conducted through their server. At least it will get his account canceled and put a scare into him. The other hting you can do is notify the Fraud Detection unit of your nearest city police. Dunno how far that'll go though. A |
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16 Oct 02 - 07:31 PM (#804905) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: Kim C If you have extra storage with Hotmail, it is a paid service, and you do have to have a credit card. However I don't suppose there's any way to tell who has extra storage and who doesn't... |
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16 Oct 02 - 07:34 PM (#804908) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: NicoleC ZoneAlarm isn't bad, although hardware firewalls are better. I have Seagate's software firewall at home (which doesn't like Mudcat at ALL). I have a laptop, so I just close the lid and it's off. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I'd rather have the computer off and in a mode that it can't be turned on :) I would guess you're fine, though. I've had my IP address attacked and Seagate caught it beautifully. Only $51??? Last time my CC was stolen, they racked up about $500 in online porn in less than a month. A co-worker did it, I know, our retail department had an insecure system and you could see everyone's credit card numbers! My CC card company calls me if I buy a $300 bow, but not if "I" buy porn... *sigh* Murray, they used to have freebie public domain dial-up, but I don't think it exists anymore. Then there were some freebie services like Juno, but they spammed you with ads (Of course, if you're used to AOL, you're used to that!). I think the only one left with an actual FREE account is NetZero, and they only give you 10 hours a month -- and they still spam you with ads. |
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16 Oct 02 - 07:39 PM (#804914) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: mack/misophist The odds are that this person is an Earthlink customer. If you know what you're doing, you can find the general geographic area he's in but that's it. If there is a broken law, your best bet is probably to write to abuse@earthlink.net. or .com; whatever. If THEY think the law was broken, they'll probably kick him out. The FBI, etc won't help - crime's too small. |
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16 Oct 02 - 11:04 PM (#805042) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: katlaughing Thanks, everyine. Will follow up on some of your suggestions. Much appreciated, kat |
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16 Oct 02 - 11:32 PM (#805063) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: GUEST,.gargoyle Sam Spade is one of my all time favorite tools...if you spend the time digging you will come out with a REAL education.
But little Pus-Pussy if you simply want to trace an e-mail address, or phone number, or street address...just put in into Google.
Sincerely, |
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16 Oct 02 - 11:41 PM (#805068) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: katlaughing Yes, Greg, that's how I found you. This email addy did not show up in google. |
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16 Oct 02 - 11:42 PM (#805070) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: GUEST,.gargoyle There are dozens of ways to get your CC# compromised.... and the VAST MAJORITY of the time it is not through an internet breach....but through simple "social engineering."
If you are on any MudCatters mailing list...and you do not keep your virus check current...then the TrojanWorm with the attributes similar the dear old BackOrifice....has probably compromised your security....since it seems to have wound its way through the MUD this last month....and includes "key-stroke-capture" features. Hmmmmm...do clones keep MudCat "secrets" on their machines?
Vigilance is the Price of Freedom.
Sincerely,
Couldn't have happened to a nicer catter. |
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16 Oct 02 - 11:49 PM (#805073) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: GUEST,.gargoyle Poor Kitty....my guess is that you are victum of a "spoofer" - no one with seriously malicious activities leaves a clear trail...(but we ALL leave trails).
Put "spoofing" into your Google and read the ones that come up with "2600".
Its fun and educational.
Sincerely, |
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17 Oct 02 - 12:52 AM (#805095) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: Sorcha See why I don't use either credit cards or "safe" on line buying? No way jose. Yes, Greg, some just leave a bigger slime trail than others. |
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17 Oct 02 - 09:50 AM (#805311) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: mack/misophist Once upon a time I heard about special credit cards that had a life time limit of something like $200 - $500. Once they were used up, you threw them out. Fraud was supposed to be too hard to bother. Whatever happened to them? |
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17 Oct 02 - 10:13 AM (#805325) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: katlaughing I've seen them advertised down at the local convenience store, misophist - prepay credit cards is what they call them. That's a good idea; maybe I'll get one of them to use. Thanks for the reminder. |
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17 Oct 02 - 12:17 PM (#805442) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: wysiwyg Or you can use a debit card that only has the amount of money on it, that you will use for the purchase at hand, plus a couple of bucks in the event of service charges. Research a purchase, make a choice, transfer the money into the debit account, execure the purchase, and it's done. Hardly any money left in the account to suck away. ~S~ |
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17 Oct 02 - 12:29 PM (#805457) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: katlaughing Yeah, that's what I was thinking last night, Susan, thanks. I have not used ICQ in damn near a year; never had it on, open, zilch. On a hunch, I searched it, today, for this guy's email addy and it came up. Of course, it is a bogus name, but curiously enough it does list Colorado as his domicile, so I suppose it could be someone at a store who stole our number. I will notify ICQ, as well as the other entities. Interesting because I never gave a CC# on ICQ for any reason whatsoever. kat |
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17 Oct 02 - 12:34 PM (#805465) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: Amos Suggest you get a shredder, kat. Dumpster-diving is a popular resource for CC thieves. People throw away stuff with the card numbers on it -- carbons (in the old days when they were used), some bills (though mostly they show only four digits). Ain't the world it used to be!! Sigh... A |
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17 Oct 02 - 12:43 PM (#805474) Subject: RE: Tech: Internet - tracing someone by email addy From: katlaughing Can't be that; I've shredded for years.:-) |