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01 Nov 02 - 08:47 AM (#815887) Subject: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Pied Piper Well What ? Search for "done for us" threads |
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01 Nov 02 - 08:52 AM (#815898) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,GUEST seamus na hooiigaun You stinking racist English bigot,dont come that stuff with us, so what if we didn't write "Any Old Iron", Fir Bolg, la Tene Culture, Milesians were doing a;gebra before the sassenach scum had leant to wipe their own arses, Cathal Brugha, Dafyydd ap Grwyfyddd ap Shypchaggwyr etc etc. |
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01 Nov 02 - 08:56 AM (#815905) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Declan They prevented Rangers from winning the Scottish league 20 years in a row. |
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01 Nov 02 - 08:57 AM (#815910) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: kendall The real Celts gave us halloween. |
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01 Nov 02 - 08:59 AM (#815916) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: greg stephens Yeah, great, miserable whining dwarves with Dracula fangs demanding chocolates with menaces. |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:01 AM (#815922) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Mr Furrow You know folks, there's nothing quite like following a well-argued, reasonable exchange of views to pass a grey afternoon. :o) Jon |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:02 AM (#815923) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Clifton53 Not much lately I 'spose, but they were hell back in the day. |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:04 AM (#815927) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: greg stephens Nothing racist about my previous remark, I was just referring to some beings that appeared on my doorstep last night out of a crack leading to the underworld. Whether they were Celts or not I have no way of knowing, though as they didnt have freckles and red hair they probably weren't American Hollywood Celts. |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:09 AM (#815938) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,Cindy Parsons Watch out for that Dave Bulmer, who is ripping off honest musicians by refusing to sell their records and then pocketing the royalties. |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:11 AM (#815941) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Fiolar What about the Brehon Laws which for almost three thousand years (until finally destroyed by the English) were the most civilised and fair in the whole of Europe? Read your history and weep for what is gone. |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:12 AM (#815942) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Dead Horse Knots? |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:15 AM (#815952) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Skipjack K8 Knots and Crosses? |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:21 AM (#815961) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: smallpiper Roads, railways and canals (well their decendants did anyway)not to mention music, literature and the arts. apart from that not a lot really I suppose duh!!!!! |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:25 AM (#815963) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: greg stephens Don't foget relaxation tapes with low D whistles. |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:25 AM (#815964) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Mr Furrow Mcdonalds? |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:29 AM (#815974) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Fibula Mattock The first truly intelligent art form? (Referring, naturally, to a material culture described as Celtic rather than to a ethnic classification of tribes. Just to avoid contention.) |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:35 AM (#815982) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: JedMarum festivals |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:36 AM (#815983) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: JedMarum ... and they contributed quite heavily to the wrld's gene pool |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:49 AM (#815995) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Snuffy They provided the English speakers with suitable practice material before taking over N America, Australia, much of Africa etc. |
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01 Nov 02 - 09:50 AM (#815997) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Pied Piper Celtic Genes? come come lets keep this civilised. There is no Gene for speaking Celtic languages. Though some people I know who've tried to learn Welsh might not believe it. PP |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:18 AM (#816024) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Fiolar No doubt Adam Hart-Davis will soon be doing a TV series on "What the Celts etc....". After all he has done everybody else. |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:18 AM (#816026) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: smallpiper There's a Gene for everything! |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:30 AM (#816039) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Murray MacLeod They fought in battle stark naked, and thus paved the way for the streakers of today. Murray |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:40 AM (#816055) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Gareth Yus - A naked Celtic battle wall, all waving thier fearsome weapons at the English. It reminds me of the story of the Roman Legion marching into the Blaenau (tr Hills) Misty, dark, raining. Out of the mist a voice calls "One Welshman is worth 2 Romans" - The two nearest legionaires depart into the mist at a run. A fearsome clashing, a curdling scream or two then silence. A voice calls out from the mist "One Welshman is worth 10 Romans" - 10 romans dash up the mountainside. Again a clash of arms, screams and then silence. The voice calls out of the mist "One Welshman is worth a whole Centuary of Romans" The Legion commander details off a Centuary, the Centurian at the head, they march up the hill. As the mist closes in on them they see a figure sore wounded crawling down. " Carefull Centurian, it's a trap - Theres two of them out there !!" Gareth |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:40 AM (#816057) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Rick Fielding When the ancient Celts, and especially those cool Druids sarted tuning their guitars in DADGAD, they paved the way for a couple of years of brilliantly innovative instrumental and vocal music.....AND twenty years of repetitive boring Celtoid albums. First they added a Nigerian drummer to the band and made "Afro-celtoid" music. Then came the Cape Breton fiddler: Afro-Mari-Celtoid. The friggin' didgeridoo made it: Austro-Afro-Mari-Celtoid. The conjunto accordionist made it Austro-Afro-Mari-Mexi-Celtoid. Darn, I wish those Druids had played harps (diatonic ones) Rick |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:42 AM (#816060) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: greg stephens The genetic point is interesting. Modern historical/archaelogical work seems to be tending more and more towards the "cultural diffusion" model, as opposed to old"big population movement/invasion", until post-Roman empire, say. This changes post 300AD, so it is currently supposed that the subsequent changes did indeed involve substantial population movement(Anglo-Saxons into England, Irish Gaels into Scotland, and probably Britons into Brittany, to quote the relevant ones here). The implication is that Ireland and Britain had a fairly stable genetic pool up to around 300AD, going back many thousand years. Now, it is becoming established that are genetic differences observable between Wales, ireland and England, and between the West of England and the east. The interesting corollary to this is that as the AnglSaxons were coming from the Celtic heartland of Europe (genetically speaking) into an area with a substantially unchanged "old population" which had acquired Celtic cuture and language by a diffusion process. not by substantial invasions of people. So the latest position, which seems quite well documented and becoming more so, is that genetically speaking the English are the ones with the "Celtic" genes, and the Irish and Welsh aren't. Funny, eh? |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:44 AM (#816064) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Midchuck A surly and pessimist Druid, A defeatist, if only he knew it, Said: "The world's on the skids, And I think having kids Is a waste of good seminal fluid!" P. |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:45 AM (#816066) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Midchuck Love the automatic linebreak feature. Thanks, Max. P. |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:54 AM (#816074) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: MMario just did a little checking on the web - according to various sites the celts invented the handsaw, the rotary mill for grain, soap, iron rimmed wagon wheels, the greek gods (according to one page they all derived from celtic dieties) the Indian Civilization (suppossedly one branch of celts became the Hindu's); faster horses; the legend of the trojan war; the domestication of apples; the italian wine industry; Judiasm; and of course that the original inhabitants of the Americas were Celts. They also built stonehenge and taught the Egyptians how to build pyramids. At least that's what various websites say - and we know they couldn't put it on the web if it weren't true? |
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01 Nov 02 - 10:55 AM (#816075) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: katlaughing Rick you beat me to it and elaborated more than I was going to...my answer was just going to be World Music!**BG** kat |
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01 Nov 02 - 11:19 AM (#816092) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Fingerbuster Bushmills, Jamiesons, Blackbush, Guinness, Murphy's, Bellhaven, Deuchars, Malt whisky etc etc. |
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01 Nov 02 - 11:57 AM (#816122) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Art Thieme LARRY BIRD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What more can be said?? (art thieme) |
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01 Nov 02 - 12:13 PM (#816140) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,A Supporter Jock straps!! |
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01 Nov 02 - 12:15 PM (#816142) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,Cretinous Yahoo And, Morticia. Matt McGinn wrote a song about the Welch/Roman dustup. It's called Grig a loo, and, it was two Scots in the song. |
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01 Nov 02 - 12:16 PM (#816145) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,The Big Yin Billy Connolly. Yeah Who also qualifies under the running joke thread mentioned elsewhere. He can keep 1 joke going for hours. |
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01 Nov 02 - 12:19 PM (#816149) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Murray MacLeod What more can be said, Art? Well for a start , how about telling the UK Mudcatters who the hell Larry Bird is ? (Basketball doesn't have a high profile in GB) Murray |
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01 Nov 02 - 12:55 PM (#816167) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Ringer Mcdonalds!!! Thanks for the best laugh in ages, Mr Furrow. |
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01 Nov 02 - 01:55 PM (#816211) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: katlaughing little john cameron (may he rest in peace) |
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01 Nov 02 - 03:31 PM (#816271) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: John MacKenzie Well said Kat, I'm with you 100% Failte.....Giok |
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01 Nov 02 - 03:45 PM (#816283) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Clinton Hammond I'll say this for them... They made the BEST targets a viking could ever want! "Never give a Celt an even break... Compound fractures heal slower" --Hagar The Horrible-- |
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01 Nov 02 - 06:20 PM (#816385) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Penny S. I'll go for the technology above, plus the combine harvester- Adam H-D did that under the Romans, but he attributed it properly to the Gauls, I think. (I've seen it in a Pelican history of technology). I don't think the mythology has it quite right, but they went to Delphi, Turkey and Galicia, as well as upsetting some Roman geese. A number of the early church fathers were Gauls. Penny And if any re-enactors in Kent (Celtic name) want some early type domesticated apples, I know where there is one in the public domain. |
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01 Nov 02 - 06:23 PM (#816387) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Gareth I still fancy waving my fearsom weapon !!!! Gareth |
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01 Nov 02 - 06:23 PM (#816388) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Penny S. One tree, that is, not apple. |
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01 Nov 02 - 07:39 PM (#816445) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,Bill I see Fingerbuster knows his Celtic bottles nice to hear from you again Bill(the sound) |
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01 Nov 02 - 11:55 PM (#816611) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: mack/misophist This may or may not seem like a plus to you, it's hard to say. According to Will and Ariel Durant, the Irish invented soap; thought the Romans were dirty because they wouldn't use it. Me, I think I'd rather spend half the day in a nice calidarium and finish off with a massage and a nice stridgle. |
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02 Nov 02 - 02:26 AM (#816640) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Coyote Breath A never ending debate as to the "correct" pronunciation of 'Celt'. CB |
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02 Nov 02 - 02:39 AM (#816643) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Clinton Hammond They went extinct... |
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02 Nov 02 - 03:16 AM (#816648) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,Boab Much Celtic wisdom has emanated from the Great Glens---Glen Fiddich, Glenmorangie, Glen Grant----- |
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02 Nov 02 - 11:36 AM (#816853) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: belfast "How The Irish Saved Civilization" by Thomas Cahill Click here. (Just love them blue clickies.) In this book the historian Thomas Cahill tells how the Irish saved civilization in the years following the decline and fall of the Roman Empire. Some of my compatriots think he understates the case. They believe the Irish invented civilisation. |
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02 Nov 02 - 12:34 PM (#816895) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: The Pooka LOL / Hee hee hee hee hee / woo woo Yes & How about: humor at one's own expense. (I'd say "self-deprecating", but that might open the fluidgates for them childless surly & pessimist Druids. Not to mention, Mr. Catspaw. I TOLD you not to mention Mr. Catspaw...) Alleluias. Twilight. Runes. Dunes. Nowait, OKOK, that was the Arabs and Frank Herbert. Threads like this. It's an adaptation from physics: the ard-Thropic principle. The Celts are the way they are because we are here discussing them. Mythical Oh-What-Lovely Wars. ("Who's that singin'?" "Aaah some Welsh bastard over in the next trench." :) Myles na gCopaleen. Sincerely, - The Pooka Fergus MacPhellimey PS: Invisible rabbits & cyclically-reappearing mischievous divils. |
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02 Nov 02 - 12:46 PM (#816900) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: 53 I don't know what a Celt is. |
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02 Nov 02 - 12:46 PM (#816901) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: belfast And mention of the great Myles na gCopaleen reminds me, surely it was the Irish who invented the bicycle. Any fool could invent the wheel, but to put one wheel in front of another ...? |
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02 Nov 02 - 12:56 PM (#816913) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Don Firth Well, my great-grandfather came from the Orkneys, although he might well have been more Viking than Celt. Other than that, I don't follow basketball that much. . . . Don Firth |
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02 Nov 02 - 06:42 PM (#817114) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Penny S. St Gall, I think it was, at any rate, one of the peripatetic Celtic Christians who reconverted Europe, was notable for being able to read without speaking the words, a hitherto unknown skill. And I have heard that it was the Irish monks who inventedwritingtextswithgapsbetweenwordsthusmakingthemmorereadable. Forget linebreaks - without word breaks, where would we be? Penny |
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02 Nov 02 - 07:16 PM (#817121) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Gareth Ogham ???? |
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02 Nov 02 - 07:18 PM (#817123) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: The Pooka belfast - ha HA! The bicycle it is then. The brother says of course you're right, and your man above in the digs do be sittin' out upon the docks of the mighty shipyards below with your men the seals and the birds. Cheerio, here's me bus, don't do anything unless your uncle's with you. |
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02 Nov 02 - 07:39 PM (#817139) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,Brian F. Hannon of ARDBOE County TYRONE According to Clever Men and Women of Education the Mesolithic Peoples first settled Ireland at the Mouth of The River Bann . They decided to settle there when they saw the Vast Shoals of Atlantic SALMON arriving each late Winter heading up river to the the Great Lake NEAGH and its ten rivers System . The Indigenous Peoples all over the Watershed harvested this Bounty of The Great Spirit from then till the Year 1661 when an English King gave the Monoply of the Salmon Trade , and The River Bann , and LOUGH NEAGH all 102,790 acres of it to Reward the Military Services of a WARLORD by Royal Charter to the WARLORD's HEIR . The Crown also had earlier rewarded THE HONOURABLE THE IRISH SOCIETY with Fishing Previleges in the tidal portion of the River . These Royal Acts DELETED all IRISH Rights till DATE , the Indigenous Native Irish Fisher People being just mostly ignored and barely tolerated to harvest the Coarse Fish For FOOD and Subsistence Economy there after till date. That is NOW this YEAR 2002 . Seeing as This Is JUBILEE Year Might Not It Be A GOOD IDEA that one of YOU ENGLISH should suggest to your Queen to return LOUGH NEAGH and The River BANN back to THE IRISH PEOPLE seeing as ten generations of Grantees have reduced the Shoals to Remnant Numbers . You have only two months left to achieve this . |
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02 Nov 02 - 10:04 PM (#817197) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST They have give us this!!! NO:1-18 Sani Abacha Close Kano, Nigeria My Direct Email: m.marim@caramail.com DEAR SIR I am Mrs Mariam Abacha , wife of the late General Sani Abacha , former Nigeria Military Head of State who died as result of Cardiac arrest. your name appeared in one of our directories as one of the companies my late husband wanted to do business with before he died. I therefore, decided to contact you in confidence so that i can be able to move out the sum,US$38, 000,000.00 (Thirty Eight Million United States Dollars only) which was secretly defaced and sealed in for bag metal boxes for security reasons. I personally therefore appeal to you for urgent assistant to move it into your country where i believe it will safe since i can not leave the country due to restriction of movement imposed upon me and members of my family by the Nigeria Goverment. The reason is that i want to send my family to you in your country after this business, i don't want them to receive the kind of treatment i am receiving here from Nigeria Government . You can contact me through my direct email: m.marim@caramail.com . Upon reciept of your responce, my lawyer (Barrister Precious A. IKEDIA) shall speak with you towards the effective completion of this transaction. However ,arrangement have been put in place to move this money out of the country in batches in secret vault through diplomatic security company to any West African Country or Possibly Europe. Conclusively, I have decided to offer you 25% of the total sum, 5% will be for whatever expenses that will be incured. Please reply urgent and treat absolute confidentially and sincerity. My dear do not fail to contact me Lawyer through his addresses e-mail.pprecious3@caramail.com, for more details. Best regards, OBO |
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02 Nov 02 - 11:49 PM (#817234) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,Billy Sorry Guest, I don't understand why you have posted this stupid (and if you think it is true just send your bank account number to them)letter from OBO as it has no relevance to the thread, but at least most Celts can write in proper english, thanks to the Scottish educational system. Unfortuneately, due to the long English domination of these islands, very few of us now speak the celtic languages, in which some of the most exquisite songs and poems have been written, and translate awkwardly into English. The music is our gift and continues to be heard across the globe. |
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03 Nov 02 - 12:07 AM (#817242) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: Coyote Breath Oy vey! is this a silly thread? or what? I'm stuck here on a Saturday night, archieving thousands of reeeely old "folk" music songs to MP3 files so's I can write them to a buncha CDs which take up less space, &C. What are the rest a youse up to. So belfast, did ya see that the SF bookstore has a new book about yer man? sincerely yours, Chuck E. Arlah (yankwank) I need another beer! Jeanie West can't sing! Joe Glazer sounds like he is singing for the masses and believes they are too dim to understand his words. Cisco Houston sounds as though he considered himself God's gift to women. Only Guthrie sounds like a real person, singing real songs. Maybe a little rum would help. CB |
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03 Nov 02 - 03:58 AM (#817289) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,Boab Hey! Enough o' this doin' down Scottish inventors!Mr Belfast---the man who built and rode the first bicycle just happens to be my Great-great uncle, Kirkpatrick MacMillan [long deceased] . He built his bike in the smiddy at Kier , near Dunscore, in Dumfries-shire, and rode it all the way to Glesca, where he was fined for colliding wi' a young lassie. There is a bike displayed in the museum by [Constable's ] Flatford Mill, which is claimed to be K.MacM's original---though I cannae vouch for the authenticity o' that. |
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03 Nov 02 - 04:00 AM (#817290) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,Boab Aye, "53" --naebuddy kens you either---- |
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03 Nov 02 - 04:06 AM (#817292) Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us From: GUEST,Boab Well, well, Billy!! I agree totally with your comment on Scottish education. A tad unfortunEate, however, considering the subject you discuss, the spelling of unfortunEatly!! [Oh!!--I'll hae tae mind my spellin' frae noo oan]!!. And I haven't been at the whisky tonight---honest! |