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Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN

05 Nov 02 - 03:43 PM (#819271)
Subject: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Mrrzy

Everyone, please welcome my good friend Libertarian to this forum. It's my first successful recruitment, so be nice, y'all!


05 Nov 02 - 04:10 PM (#819286)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Bobert

Ahhhh, that a famblee name, or what, Lib?

Jus' funnin'.

Welcome to the Catbox. Yeah, I know it needs to be cleaned but with all this Iraq and Lection stuff going on it's gotten a tad funky.

Bobert


05 Nov 02 - 04:19 PM (#819296)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: EBarnacle1

If your name reflects your inclinations, it sounds as though we will have some interesting discussions.


05 Nov 02 - 04:23 PM (#819299)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Rick Fielding

Welcome Libertarian.....but when you get here, PLEASE explain exactly what a 'Libertarian' is.

I'be been called a 'pinko', an anarchist and even once a "bloody Libertarian". Can one be a combination of all three?

Cheers

Rick


05 Nov 02 - 04:24 PM (#819301)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: MMario

'barnacle - just 'cuz s/he can't spell "librarian" is no reason to make fun of (appropriate pronoun)

y'know - English would be a lot more convenient if we had a gender neutral pronoun...instead of male/female/NOTHING....


05 Nov 02 - 04:27 PM (#819304)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: catspaw49

Mario, we were having that discussion on another thread and I'd like to suggest "cocksucker" as a possibility.

AND WELCOME LIBERTARIAN!!!

Spaw


05 Nov 02 - 04:50 PM (#819324)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Mudlark

Welcome, Libertarian, to the Mudcat Cafe. What are your musical inclinations? Do you play an instrument? Sing? Tell us about yourself.
I have been an amateur folk singer for 40 years, and am still trying to achieve a creditable barre chord.


05 Nov 02 - 05:28 PM (#819368)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: CarolC

Welcome to the Mudcat, Libertarian!


05 Nov 02 - 05:57 PM (#819393)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Amos

Howdy, Lib! Can i call you Lib?

Welcome to the madhouse; don't let it get your dander up, and you'll have a fine time with this rollicking lot. We range from those who share your nominal philosophy to those who think Bill Clinton was much too liberal and GWB won fair and square, and all possible illusions in between!

Glad to have you!


A


05 Nov 02 - 06:46 PM (#819436)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Catherine Jayne

Welcome to the cat box. Have fun......Im sure you will!!

Cat


05 Nov 02 - 06:49 PM (#819438)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Leadfingers

I always thought it was Male Female and Convertible MMario.


05 Nov 02 - 10:09 PM (#819553)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: GUEST,Walking Eagle

Welcome to a Liberatrian from a Green!


05 Nov 02 - 10:49 PM (#819576)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Bee-dubya-ell

Welcome Libertarian. If your name is truly representative of your politics, then the U.S. Mudcat member political affiliation currently stands at:

Democrat - A shitload
Republican - A lot-less-than-a-shitload
Greens - A handful
Libertarian - A smaller handful
Anarchists - Under provision of The Patriot Act, the exact number is to remain undisclosed due to pending FBI investigation

Bruce


06 Nov 02 - 04:13 AM (#819676)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Bullfrog Jones

Welcome from over here too! (Where is Libertaria, by the way?)

BJ


06 Nov 02 - 04:31 AM (#819682)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Troll

Bruce, the anarchists are still trying to come up with a political philosophy that they can all agree on.
Welcome Libertairan. Watch out for 'Spaw.
Ignore the man behind the curtain.

troll (lower case "t" please)


06 Nov 02 - 04:43 AM (#819687)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Oaklet

Welcome on behalf of the entire population of Hull9, Sombreros are now aloft in the Spanish Quarter, in your honour9.


06 Nov 02 - 05:10 AM (#819703)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Steve Parkes

Mek yowerself at um, as we used to say where I come from. But mind the 'osses!

Steve


06 Nov 02 - 05:15 AM (#819706)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: mooman

Welcome Libertarian!

Please do not feed Punch the Horse!

All the best

moo


06 Nov 02 - 05:48 AM (#819723)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Mr Furrow

Wow, & Ithought it said welcome the LIBERTINE. Oh well :(


06 Nov 02 - 06:07 AM (#819735)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Pied Piper

Hi LIBERTARIAN.
"Welcome to the house of fun"
"England is a bitch there's no freedom in it" but then again
"Seagull I don't want your wings
I don't want your freedom in a lie"

All the best PP


06 Nov 02 - 01:31 PM (#820090)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Stephen L. Rich

Welcome!! Check your sanity at the door. you won't need it here!! *G*


06 Nov 02 - 05:08 PM (#820271)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Glen Reid

A big Northern Ontario welcome, LIBERTARIAN.
Cheers, Glen


06 Nov 02 - 06:51 PM (#820310)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Mrrzy

I guess I need to tell my new recruit about this thread...

And I use "they" as a singular genderless pronoun. Grammarians, beware!


07 Nov 02 - 03:40 AM (#820556)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Steve Parkes

Quite right, Mrrzy: after all, if if was good enough for Lewis Carrol...!


07 Nov 02 - 12:28 PM (#820827)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Melani

Howdy! Yeah, Mrzzy, make sure he/she sees it. The last time I welcomed somebody, he was never heard from again!


08 Nov 02 - 09:20 AM (#821388)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: libertarian

Ok, thank you all for the welcomeing, I really appreciate it. mrrzy and I had a wonderful time at the march, and I think we will be friends forever because of it. At least I hope so. Anyhow to find out what a libertarian is go to http://www.lp.org and you will learn that you have nothing to fear but everything to gain from us Libertarians. We only want you to be able to live your lives without interference from government or your fellow man unless of course you would welcome him/her!!!!!! I hope to meet the whole lot of you as time goes by, and I am hoping mrrzy and I can also spend a lot more time together discussing everything. Thanks again for the welcome mat, and maybe next time, roll out the red carpet!!!! LOL


08 Nov 02 - 01:35 PM (#821611)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Mrrzy

That is this site for those who like blickies.


08 Nov 02 - 01:49 PM (#821618)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: EBarnacle1

Bullfrog, don't you know that Libertaria is just a little up the bayou from Barataria [not bacteria, but it's only a slide away].

By the bye, the list left out Working Families Party.


08 Nov 02 - 02:10 PM (#821639)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: GUEST,Taliesn

(quote)
"Anyhow to find out what a libertarian is go to http://www.lp.org and you will learn that you have nothing to fear but everything to gain from us Libertarians. "

Well , speaking for myself , I know enough about the Libertarian
platform after over 10 years of hearing their symposiums and their Political candidates ( in particular their presidential candidate Brown ) to be more than a little put off by your using this forum for what is apparently a Jehovah's Witness-style of party promotion ( ie: here's some of our material so you can learn more about us ).
And before one is tempted to counter my promoting of C-Span as license to do the same for Libertarians or Greens or Scientologists or Paganists or what-have-you may I first mention that I promote C-Span expressly because it takes *no* side while consistantly providing uniterupted broadcast forums for *all* sides. Yet, in doing so I never presented ,let alone advocated anyone , go to it's website.

Bottomline: I don't give a damn about your prosletising the Libertarian-branded literature ,online or otherwise , but I *do*
appreciate what you *yourself* think without the benefit of someone else's pre-agendaed , pre-committee written propaganda. I believe many of the *free-thinkers* here would far more want your Libertarianism to speak through you in your own positions taken on any of the issues you are free to join in on.

So , speaking for myself , you'll get a lot more rspect for your opinion when you ex[ress it as your own *made-up mind* and not with your chosen party's label and literature at the ready.
Just some freindly advice , you would be giving *free-thought*
less of a bad name if you actually applied it. Trust that enough of us already know how to do politicalparty.org searches for ourselves.

On that note ,welcome....but you're now on secret probation ;-)


08 Nov 02 - 06:01 PM (#821813)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: libertarian

My only reason for even mentioning the LP is due to the fact I was asked earlier in the thread what a libertarian is, and the lp.org site is a concise way to show someone what a libertarian is, I firmly believe in self-government, as well as self responsibility, this is another reason I embrace Atheism, I don't have to blame or ask some mythological being for forgiveness, I firmly accept responsibility for my actions. I am glad however there is this outlet for those of us who have been left out of the main stream, and I really appreciate mrrzy introducing me. Thank you again mrrzy.


09 Nov 02 - 12:58 AM (#822044)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: mg

welkome aboard. Sorry but I have no see in my keyboard anymore. My opinion is that posting a few links does no one any harm. Live and let live. mg


09 Nov 02 - 05:37 AM (#822097)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: libertarian

Ok mrrzy told me this is a music forum and informed me that you would like to know what kind of music I enjoy. The main type of music I listen to is rock, I don't care what kind of rock, I love most music that calls itself rock. Especially metal, oldies, classic, the music rock-rap, in other words anything that is head-banging music. I've been listening to rock all my life, and I guess I will listen to it for the rest of my life as I don't think my tastes will ever change. I also agree with Mary Garvey above in that I have the attitude of live and let live. I try not to pessimistic about anything, and I am hoping to leave this world in much better shape than I found it, unfortuantely the D's and R's are doing a much better job worsening the situation than the L's ever will. I for one would like to leave our children with no debt to pay off, not mortgage their future for a despotic government that claims to only want to help us and make things better the way they see it, when all they succeed in is taking away more of our liberties and freedoms. I firmly believe in the spirit this country was founded upon, and wisdom of our forefathers, not the wisdom of the current ilk in power because the current ilk in power only want to force us to live as they see fit and not let us live our lives as we see fit. Thank you again mrrzy for the introduction to this group, and I will try to only be a positive influence here.


09 Nov 02 - 06:20 AM (#822115)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: Banjer

Daddy always taught us kids that the two things you shouldn't discuss with anyone you consider a friend are religion and politics....I've got along just fine so far by heeding his advice!


09 Nov 02 - 06:20 PM (#822445)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: The Pooka

A belated welcome to Libertarian from a Recovering Republican & now beDamned Dimmycrat. / Your political & musical preferences sound most interesting, L. Both are still rock & roll to us.

I think you'll find the preponderant politics around here are on your side "socially" --against government intrusion on personal private behavior, especially re morals, religion, drugs, etc. -- but watch out for the 2nd Amendment issues & health-related stuff like smoking; there, we're not so sure about this Individual Freedom business; a foolish consistency is the not the hobgoblin of OUR small minds, O no!

On foreign policy, we have plenty of Peaceniks, who should like Libertarian anti-interventionism (not to say Isolationism)(I TOLD you not to say "Isolationism"! :)

But on Economics: good luck selling pure unregulated Capitalism here, buddy. Laissez-les-faires temps roulez. :) On those issues, you're in a nest of Statists, kid. Prepare to do positive & friendly battle.

A Libertarian activist in my state gave me his wonderful self-satirical platform summary on a business card: "We demand the abolition of practically everything; we call for drastic reductions in everything else; and we refuse to pay for what's left over." You guys are good guys, sez I. Otherwordly, yes; but good. And I know of no other party in this country that is philosophically *consistent*.

Full disclosure: I work for the Enemy. Government. State level. Field of Elections Administration. But, you don't need to Privatize---or I should say, Divest---us. Our product is already sold to the highest bidder. / (btw you guys had candidates on our ballot in CT last Tuesday, and you did pretty well. Well y'know: considering. :) / Look forward to chatting with ya.


11 Nov 02 - 11:58 AM (#823414)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: GUEST

Well again thanks for the kind words, on the note of not discussing religion and politics, that is what got us in this mess in the first place, letting others discuss for us, so I no longer obey that rule. On the other note about libertarianism, I agree with the LP on almost everything, actually I am an Anarchist as well as an Atheist, so I just want government and religion to leave me alone, as I have read all about the founding of this wonderful country, and I refuse to let the Democrats, Republicans, or the religious people ruin this wonderful country. BTW I met mrrzy at the godless march on DC, and a wonderful time was had by all. I hope this straightens out a few things.


11 Nov 02 - 12:20 PM (#823430)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: GUEST,Libertine

Let me get this straight. Mrrzy is recruiting Ozfest fans at atheist Libertarian marches, to come into Mudcat to discuss his brand label of politics, and contribute nothing musically except opinions on heavy metal?

Oh yea.


11 Nov 02 - 02:23 PM (#823511)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: EBarnacle1

So, what's the difference between a libertarian and a self-responsible anarchist? [This is not a joke. There is no punch line.]


13 Nov 02 - 01:07 PM (#825356)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: libertarian

The answer to your question is "as far as I am concerned" there is no difference between a libertarian and a self-responsible anarchist. I think Anarchy is much preferrable to what we have today.


13 Nov 02 - 02:47 PM (#825432)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: fat B****rd

'Scuse late welcome Libertarian. Be lucky and enjoy the'Cat.


13 Nov 02 - 03:03 PM (#825444)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: gnu

Hey Lib. Welcome. Read the "Newcomers" thread. It will explain a lot... especially about feeding trolls.

Spaw... thanks for spewing beer all over my monitor... really, thanks, it's been a sh***y day so far.


14 Nov 02 - 01:58 PM (#826042)
Subject: RE: Welcome New Member: LIBERTARIAN
From: libertarian

Thanks again all.