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22 Nov 02 - 08:31 PM (#833071) Subject: John from Hull/the Baptist From: greg stephens A recent thread "What has GOD ever done for us" has drawn attention to the problem that the successive revelations from God from the likes of Buddha, Jesus, Muhammed, asorted Prophets, etc etc have been confused, amiguous and contradictory. And you never know where the next one is going to come from. However, it must be becoming evident to most Mudcatters that we have been chosen to be the first recipients of the LATEST VERSION. It is a fantastic honour, and I acknowlege my amazing luck to being in on the beginning of it. But I am not clear, and I ask for enlightenment. Is John from Hull THE ONE? Or is he perhaps, as his name might suggest, more of a John the Baptist figure, who famously said "There shall come after me one mightier than I"?? Is it possible that in fact some GUEST represents the rough beast at this moment slouching towards Max's kitchen table? |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:06 PM (#833093) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: michaelr Some rough beast ought to slouch towards Hull and go Godzilla on them! ;-) Michael |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:08 PM (#833095) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: michaelr ...oh, and greg, you forgot the BS designation! People are going to get upset if yet another Hull thread creeps through their filters... |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:12 PM (#833098) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: greg stephens This is hardly a BS Hull thread.. This is the business, for everyone. |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:18 PM (#833103) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: GUEST Or you could put the glass down, and back slowly away from the tv screen, until the hallucinations stop. |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:19 PM (#833104) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: michaelr Oh, all right then. I've studied JfH's posts, and I don't think he's The One. He may well be a bearer of portents, though, kinda like the Jay (and Silent Bob) character in "Dogma". Have you seen that? It's a great film (sorry, I'm digressing again), with George Carlin as The Bishop and Alanis Morrisette as God. Cheers, Michael |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:25 PM (#833108) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull heloo, yhere is only one John from Hull 9Me), anyone else is an imposter.PS my autograph is available through the mudcat auction, just click on auction at the top of the page.john |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:26 PM (#833109) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: greg stephens You may have studied his posts, but have you understood them? Remember "as through a glass darkly". People will come who will interpret unto you, and woe betide ye if you don't agree. |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:39 PM (#833116) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: michaelr Well, that's what I mean, greg... we are not ready yet to understand9 -- until the time is right. |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:46 PM (#833124) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Amos Sometimes it is very worthwhile to recognize that the reason something doesn't make sense is because it is inherently incomprehensible. Pretending otherwise is a sure path toward self-abasement. A |
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22 Nov 02 - 09:54 PM (#833131) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: greg stephens Thank you, prophet Amos. Incomprehensible but faintly uplifting statements are part of the buildup to any serious cult. |
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22 Nov 02 - 10:01 PM (#833138) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: michaelr But Amos -- how do you know whether something is inherently incomprehensible (is anything?) or whether you're just too stoopid? |
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23 Nov 02 - 06:37 AM (#833315) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Pied Piper A bit of advice 9John; keep away from any girls called Salome. PP |
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23 Nov 02 - 06:45 AM (#833320) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Oaklet And a word of caution to any who feel moved to wash his feet. They are a certified bio-hazard. |
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23 Nov 02 - 07:40 PM (#833541) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Murray MacLeod I do believe that greg may have nailed it here and that JfH may indeed be the harbinger of hitherto undreamt-of revelations. The only slight worry I have is that in the course of our sporadic PM's JfH has never yet succeeded in tipping me a winner. I would have thought that anyone with the remotest inside information regarding the second coming might at least have some foresight regarding which horse might win the 3.30 at Kempton Park. Muray |
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23 Nov 02 - 08:53 PM (#833595) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Thats bullshit Murray! Check your last PM from me, I said Arsenal would win 1.0 and they did, i also tipped Rock of Gibraltar last tim it won, though that was on the main forun , not via PM. |
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23 Nov 02 - 08:59 PM (#833598) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull PS, you could have got 7/1 on that! ;-) |
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23 Nov 02 - 09:55 PM (#833617) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Neighmond If all the world but a stage, the people merely players Is there more? Something bigger? an answer to our prayers? |
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24 Nov 02 - 06:38 AM (#833749) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: smallpiper Yes, oh yes, but perhaps not in the way you want them answered! |
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24 Nov 02 - 11:08 AM (#833866) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: John MacKenzie But Amos I don't have an abasement, don't even have an itsy bitsy cellar. At my age I'm not going to start digging one either, bad for the back. Let him that cometh come, and get it over with, then we can all get back to reading BS threads. Failte.....Giok |
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24 Nov 02 - 11:45 AM (#833884) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: GUEST,Salome jOhn, I have heard so much about you... are you dancin'? |
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24 Nov 02 - 11:54 AM (#833890) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: GUEST,herodias Salome, i've told you before about unsuitable friends. Look at his hair, and he hasn't washed for a week. |
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24 Nov 02 - 12:00 PM (#833892) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Noreen Musical thread! John the Baptist / John Martyn |
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24 Nov 02 - 12:20 PM (#833907) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Little Hawk The neat thing about all those "successive revelations from God" is what each one shows us about the state of mind of the people at the time! It was usually confused, ambiguous, and contradictory. :-) Now the state of mind of the Children of Israel around the time of Moses was downright vicious. I would not have wanted to see them coming over the horizon, I can tell you! Buddha was much more appealing, but a tad ascetic. Krishna is rather likeable and very poetic. Taoism is very clear and straightforward. I give Taosim 10 out of 10. Jesus can be a bit mysterious, but I'd buy a used car from him anytime. Mohammed seems to have been quite a good organizer. John from Hull is incoherent, daft, and almost incomprehensible much of the time. He consorts with people of low repute. He lives in a hovel. His taste in shoes is lamentable. He offends without knowing. Pick your prophet according to your own best judgement. - LH |
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24 Nov 02 - 12:24 PM (#833908) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: greg stephens Well you laid that out very neatly LH. Judging from your excellent thumbnail sketches, I think I'll pick John from Hull. |
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24 Nov 02 - 01:11 PM (#833941) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: John MacKenzie Sorry Noreen but I think John Martyn is rubbish. I loathe his mannered and un-natural singing style. Giok |
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24 Nov 02 - 01:51 PM (#833967) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Little Hawk I knew there had to be someone in there for you, greg! :-) - LH |
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24 Nov 02 - 07:54 PM (#834150) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Skipjack K8 One of his disciples, post-modern pagan Eric the Viking, witnessed John From HUll baptising himself in the river at Llanfair. Again, the fruity language that greeted the cool, cleansing waters may sound, err, modern to our ears, but time will no doubt reveal that Father Jack was closest to the Ultimate Being. The swearing of oaths, with oaths, by oafs. I wonder if Andy Watson has analysed the hidden meanings in the apocryphal pronouncement "Who the fuck are you, then?" that represented the totality of his audience with jFH |
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24 Nov 02 - 08:01 PM (#834155) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Mr Happy wuff! wuff! who let the the gods out!wuff! wuff! |
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24 Nov 02 - 08:05 PM (#834159) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: CarolC ...or maybe the message is for us all to look within our own selves to find the new spiritual paradigm. Anyway, that's what I get from my experience of people with a lot of humanity. (And John certainly has a lot of humanity). |
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24 Nov 02 - 08:11 PM (#834164) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Noreen greg, have you met jOhn? |
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24 Nov 02 - 08:19 PM (#834169) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Skipjacj-He 9Mr Watson) was giving me a funny look, so i asked him why, you misquoute me, what i atually said was "what the fuck are you lokking at?".john |
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24 Nov 02 - 08:23 PM (#834172) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 9he was staring at me) |
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25 Nov 02 - 03:25 AM (#834321) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: greg stephens No Noreen I have never met the master. I am a humble student of his writings. I hope for an audience one day. |
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25 Nov 02 - 03:28 AM (#834323) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull sined fotographs are available, click on auction at top of page. |
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25 Nov 02 - 08:26 AM (#834444) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Pied Piper Give me a profit that jiggles any time. Little Hawk, get off your neovedanatist, new age hippyshit, pyramid razor sharpening, and crop-circling soapbox. PP |
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25 Nov 02 - 12:42 PM (#834681) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Little Hawk Har! Har! Not a chance, Piper. I love philosophy. Now here are some more thumbnail sketches of popular prophets and omnipotent beings... the Bab - comparable to John the Baptist, and (arguably) to John from Hull. Had the absolute nerve to suggest modifying Islamic society to include equality for women and mercy to everyone. Was eventually shot by firing squad for being so nice and reasonable. Baha 'Ullah - the man for whom the Bab was forerunner. Presumably the new Christ of the Age, according to some. Had very progressive social ideas in almost every way, and spent most of his life in prison as a consequence of that. My mother's dog, Arnot - Miniature dachshund. Definitely believes he is the absolute ruler of all he sees. Getting old and cranky now... Most American presidents - who all ACT as if they were God, except for Jimmy Carter. This may account for Carter's brief stay at the White House, and his greater success after leaving it. Don Cherry - Canadian god of roughhouse hockey commentary and really LOUD suits! Gargoyle - The unseen, Omnipotent One who watches over the sinners of Mudcat. "Neovedanatist"? Boy, I've been called some nasty stuff, Pied, but that is sinking pretty low. Does your mother know you talk like that? I own no pyramids. If you want to talk to razor-sharpeners, contact Roger Calverley. He's a devotee of Sri Aurobindo, and he's into that kind of stuff bigtime....working with crystals, energy healing, sound therapy...you'd love the guy. He plays the harp too, and had Canada's best-selling "New Age" album a few years back. I think it's called "Celtic Mysteries" or something like that. - LH |
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25 Nov 02 - 05:16 PM (#834819) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: CarolC You stay right where you are, LH. You look good on that soapbox. |
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26 Nov 02 - 07:26 AM (#835257) Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist From: Dave Bryant jOhn9 definitely has many things going for him as an apostle or prophet: He speaketh in tongues and seemeth full of new wine. And is not 999 the opposite of the Devil's number ? How is he on miracles ? - can he turn water (or Watney's) into beer. |