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25 Nov 02 - 08:32 PM (#834982) Subject: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: John Routledge The following is a fragment of a song that I have just recalled from the late 60's in the UK following a very nostalgic night. Hawthorn white and hawthorn red Hanging in the garden by my bed Tell me simple tell me true When comes the winter what must I do? I have a lute and I have a lyre A black cat sits down by my fire A nightingale to my tree is tied That bird looks sick the hawthorn cried. It was sung by Ellis Holiday and Dereck Proctor. Any clues concerning the remainder greatly appreciated. |
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25 Nov 02 - 08:38 PM (#834988) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: Sorcha Found this from the "Pagent of Letchworth" HAWTHORN CLOSE-LEAVED trees with bowers bedight- Hawthorn red and hawthorn white; Crowns, with pearls and rubies spread— Hawthorn white and hawthorn red. To our Common comes the Spring Laying it with foamy billows; Nightingales and thrushes sing Resting on its snowy pillows. Will look for the lute verse..... |
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25 Nov 02 - 08:41 PM (#834989) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: Sorcha No luck at all. Sorry |
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26 Nov 02 - 04:37 AM (#835162) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: nutty I've vague memories of hearing Graeme Miles sing this song ...... I will get in touch with him ...... watch this space |
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26 Nov 02 - 05:42 AM (#835173) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: IanC Sorcha Is that on the web? :-) ... Ancient Letchworth resident |
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26 Nov 02 - 07:08 AM (#835238) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: nutty Yes Ian ...its here LETCHWORTH |
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26 Nov 02 - 10:32 AM (#835439) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: IanC Thanks, Nutty! ... :-) |
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26 Nov 02 - 02:07 PM (#835519) Subject: ADD: Hawthorn White, Hawthorn Red From: nutty I've spoken to Graeme and my memory was correct for once. To the best of his recollection he heard the song in Newcastle sung by a gentleman called Ronnie Duke ..... He thought that it may be a traditional Northumberland song as he remembered singing something similar at school but he has since learned that it may have been written by Charles Causley ....... I did an internet search but have not been able to come up with the Causley version .... someone else may have more luck .... anyhow .. this is how Graeme remembers the words Hawthorn White, Hawthorn Red Hawthorne white, hawthorne red Hanging in the garden overhead Tell me simple, tell me true When winter comes what will I do I have a house with chimneys four I have a silver bell on my door A single hearth, a single bed But that's not enough the hawthorn said I have a lute, I have a lyre I have a yellow cat by my fire A Nightingale to my tree is tied But never sings the hawthorn cried I have a horse with wings for feet I have a chicken each day to eat When I was born the church bells rang But just for time the hawthorn sang I have a silk and satin spread That runs blood red round my bed head So why is my heart as light as lead There's no love there the hawthorne said Graeme sometimes sings the first verse as a chorus and also adds an extra verse (verse 4) that he wrote. I have a garden filled with flowers Where I walk for many long hours Roses white and Roses red But they'll soon wither the hawthorne said Hope that helps you John .... |
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26 Nov 02 - 02:12 PM (#835520) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: MMario tune? (he said greedily) |
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26 Nov 02 - 03:57 PM (#835546) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: nutty Sorry MMario but I don't know the tune well enough to make a Midi .... perhaps John can help. |
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26 Nov 02 - 04:49 PM (#835565) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: John Routledge Yes Nutty I know the tune. I am a bit of a tecnophobe so i will sing it down the phone :0) |
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26 Nov 02 - 04:50 PM (#835566) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: MMario co-operation is the name of the game! |
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26 Nov 02 - 05:12 PM (#835571) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: John Routledge And a bit of lateral thinking MMario :0) |
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27 Nov 02 - 04:00 AM (#835693) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hawthorn white hawthorn red ? From: Joe Offer Can't say I see the connection between the song and the city, but be sure to take a look at the Letchworth Garden City Website that Sorcha linked to. Letchworth is a fascinating example of a planned city that works - and it's a beautiful place, too. IanC gave me a great tour. -Joe Offer- |