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31 Dec 02 - 05:18 AM (#855812) Subject: Norma Waterson From: banjomad (inactive) Congratulations to Norma Waterson who has been awarded the MBE in the new year honours list. Long overdue and never more deserved. Peace and love for 2003, Dave |
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31 Dec 02 - 05:25 AM (#855813) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: DMcG Eliza will sulk now. |
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31 Dec 02 - 07:48 AM (#855847) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Harry Basnett Terrific news.......a lovely lady and a well-deserved award!! |
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31 Dec 02 - 08:21 AM (#855860) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Bassic Thats a HULL of a good thing to happen. Congratulat9ons!! |
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31 Dec 02 - 09:51 AM (#855908) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Schantieman Good news indeed. What other instances are there of a husband and wife getting the same honour, in the same field? Steve |
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31 Dec 02 - 12:41 PM (#856030) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Herga Kitty Schantieman Well, Neville and Doreen Lawrence OBE for a start. And in the same Honours List. Kitty |
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31 Dec 02 - 01:15 PM (#856063) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: selby I thought they had to go to buck house to recive thr gong not a field:-)) Keith |
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31 Dec 02 - 01:28 PM (#856075) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Leadfingers Great stuff |Good for them And Jasper Carrott!! |
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31 Dec 02 - 01:30 PM (#856079) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: DMcG I don't think 'double awards' are that rare in themselves. But they are usually awarded at the same time to two people who have been in some kind of joint venture. Martin and Norma's awards are, in effect, independant. |
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31 Dec 02 - 01:39 PM (#856083) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: KathWestra Wonderful news! Congratulations to Norma on a well-deserved honor. Sometimes prophets ARE honored in their own countries. |
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31 Dec 02 - 02:06 PM (#856102) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: McGrath of Harlow With an MBE she doesn't get to be called Dame Norma, I understand. Rather a pity. The same way it isn't "Sir Martin". They'd have had to have the GBE instead of the MBE for that. Here is a page where the BBC solemnly outlines this strange phenomenon of the Honours System,/a>, with all the subtle distinctions of rank and hierarchy involved. I think it'd be better to have just one award called the GE, for Good Egg. And balance it with another called the BE, for Bad Egg. I see the BBC has been having a listeners' poll on which person they would most like to see excluded from Britain - Tony Blair romped home ahead of the field. There was a parallel poll on who people would like to import into thsi country. George Bush and Saddam Hussein scored well here, largely on the reasonable grounds that that would save the USA, Iraq, and the rest of the world, from having to put up with them as Head of State. |
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31 Dec 02 - 03:41 PM (#856177) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Big Tim I am quite rapidly re-evaluating my opinion of the British honours system. |
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31 Dec 02 - 03:44 PM (#856181) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: McGrath of Harlow Sorry about that blue clicky that went wrong there - I posted a corrected version immediately, but clearly a helpful Mudelf removed the first (wrong) duplicated post, rather than the second (corrected) one. |
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31 Dec 02 - 04:14 PM (#856199) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Guy Wolff What great news and says something on truly honering British folk music.. Very Very Good News!!!! |
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31 Dec 02 - 04:24 PM (#856211) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Richard Bridge Why have the papers and TV stations ignored Norma and concentrated on pretty well every other recipient? |
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31 Dec 02 - 04:30 PM (#856217) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: McGrath of Harlow Well, they are English papers and TV stations - what would you expect when it comes to anything about English traditional music? |
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31 Dec 02 - 06:25 PM (#856284) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: banjomad (inactive) The Yorkshire Post had a photo of Norma on the front page and a large photo and an article about Norma inside. My local paper in Halifax [ Yorkshire ] managed to mention , a Brummy comic, a Welsh opera singer and a Cornish cook but not a great YORKSHIRE folk singer, nuff said. Dave |
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01 Jan 03 - 04:13 PM (#856782) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Susanne (skw) Banjomad, is there a Yorkshire Post website, perhaps? Norma has always been one of my favourite female voices, and when I saw Waterson:Carthy at Tonder last year (yes, 2002!) they seemed to be enjoying themselves and their music so much, it was a joy to watch. I'm very sure Eliza will get her MBE (or whatever) in time. |
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01 Jan 03 - 06:39 PM (#856883) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Liz the Squeak Good Grief.... An hereditary peer of the realm, and 2 MBE's have used my occasional table... I'll never get the stains out now! Couldn't happen to a nicer lady. Bet June is in a snit today! LTS |
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01 Jan 03 - 06:47 PM (#856889) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: vectis It is a pity that the activities that have earned Norma, Martin and Jasper their gongs will shortly become illegal. There's logic for you. |
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01 Jan 03 - 06:48 PM (#856890) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: banjomad (inactive) Hi Susanne, try this www.yorkshirepost.co.uk if this does'nt work come back and i'll try again. Cheers, Dave |
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01 Jan 03 - 08:33 PM (#856941) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Susanne (skw) Thanks, Dave. Found it, but it was today's front page, so I missed it. |
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01 Jan 03 - 10:29 PM (#856990) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: johnross The reports of the Honours List say that anybody can nominate people for honours. Is there any kind of organized effort to nominate additional folk musicians? And who should be on future lists? |
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01 Jan 03 - 10:38 PM (#856992) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull nic jones for next year? start a petishun ? |
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02 Jan 03 - 12:40 PM (#857302) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: RoyH (Burl) There is one man who's name stands out to me as deserving of an MBE for 'services to folk music'. He has the longest professional career of any folksinger in Britain. He has steadfastly maintained an English song repertoire throughout his career. He has written songs that have become established as classics wherever the English language is sung. He has brought many neglected songs to life via his collecting and research. He has published the definitive book on the songs of the Royal Navy. He pioneered singing at the Sidmouth Festival,very much a dancers event in the early days. He was the driving force behind the birth and growth of the folk club scene in the English West country. He was the first folk DJ on BBC radio. He has been and still is a source of inspiration and encouragement for scores of present day singers. I suggest that this man's life has been one long gift of 'services to folk music', and he is still going strongly at over 70 years of age. He deserves the MBE, no one more so. . His name is Cyril Tawney. |
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02 Jan 03 - 12:49 PM (#857310) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Schantieman Hear Hear! Well said Burl! Cyril gets my vote! A truly great, modest, hard-working, down-to-earth, talented folkie. Steve |
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02 Jan 03 - 01:02 PM (#857323) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Schantieman ...but how about Bob Copper, whose birthday it is today (apparently!)? Steve |
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02 Jan 03 - 03:24 PM (#857345) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Santa Where would we stop? Alistair Anderson for Folkworks, if nothing else Sandra Kerr, ditto and Bagpuss Maddy Prior Alan Bell John Kirkpatrick Lots and lots |
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02 Jan 03 - 05:30 PM (#857461) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: karen k Congratulations Norma! Certainly a very well deserved honor bestowed on one of my very favorite singers of all time. Here's to many more years and many more songs. |
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02 Jan 03 - 07:24 PM (#857522) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: banjomad (inactive) Bob Copper is 88 years old on Monday Jan 6th. Both he and Cyril Tawney should be honoured and both long overdue. Dave |
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02 Jan 03 - 10:00 PM (#857596) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: GUEST I am not sulking... ec x |
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03 Jan 03 - 02:19 AM (#857658) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Chris Amos Hi, While I profoundly disagree with the honours system in this country, (won't go into details now – it becomes a rant), it is excellent that folk musicians are recognised and Norma in particular who has done so much for the music and given people a bloody good time in the process for so many years. Chris |
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03 Jan 03 - 04:47 AM (#857682) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: DMcG Glad to hear you're not sulking... It was tongue in cheek, of course! Mind you, getting letters published in the Guardian pointing out how hopeless the PEL reforms are won't do your MBE chances any good, you know :-) |
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03 Jan 03 - 11:41 AM (#857783) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Schantieman Eddie Upton? Swarbs? |
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03 Jan 03 - 01:59 PM (#857865) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: GUEST,Big Jock I was much more proud of Hamish Henderson who refused an 'honour'. Surely these merit badges only go to prop up the dreadful class system of this country. Fling the peasants a few crumbs and they won't disturb the gluttony of the upper classes. B J |
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03 Jan 03 - 04:46 PM (#857982) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: Big Tim When did HH refuse? Under the Tories or Labour? Personally, I did once turn down an invite to a "royal" Garden Party in Edinburgh - because I don't believe in monarchies. So did my wife. The honours system is a bit diferent tho, and it's evolving all the time: evolution not revolution, no more chopping off of heads! As it happens, I gave a Norma CD to my English son-in-law for Christmas. He had never heard of her and was quite amazed, as I was, that her name turned up in the Honours List! |
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03 Jan 03 - 05:10 PM (#858003) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: banjomad (inactive) Hamish refused the honour from Margaret Thatcher, saying he would not accept an honour from a government who promoted the nuclear arms race. Brian McNeil composed a tune in his honour ' Hamish Hendersons Refusal ' Cheers, Dave |
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03 Jan 03 - 05:40 PM (#858028) Subject: RE: Norma Waterson From: GUEST,Big Jock Marion Blythman, the wife of Morris Blythman AKA Thurso berwick, also refused an MBE, under Tony Blair's government. She didn't qualify her refusal, just that she disagrees with the whole set up. B J |