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07 Jan 03 - 04:33 AM (#860490) Subject: Correction: Chivalrous Shark From: Joe Offer There's one line missing from Chivalrous Shark. Here 'tis: Then he proffered his fin and she took it-Source: Song Fest -Joe Offer- Here's the full corrected text: THE RHYME OF THE CHIVALROUS SHARK (Wallace Irwin) The most chivalrous fish of the ocean, To ladies forbearing and mild, Though his record be dark Is the man-eating shark Who will eat neither woman nor child. He dines upon seamen and skippers, And tourists his hunger assuage, And a fresh cabin boy Will inspire him with joy If he's past the maturity age. A doctor, a lawyer, a preacher, He'll gobble one any fine day, But the ladies, God bless 'em. He'll only address 'em Politely and go on his way. l can readily cite you an instance Where a lovely young lady of Breem, Who was tender and sweet And delicious to eat, Fell into the bay with a scream. She struggled and flounced in the water And signaled in vain for her bark, And she'd surely been drowned If she hadn't been found By a chivalrous man-eating shark. He bowed in a manner most polished. Thus soothing her impulses wild: "Don't be frightened," he said, I've been properly bred And I eat neither woman nor child." Then he proffered his fin and she took it- Such gallantry none can dispute While the passengers cheered As the vessel they neared And a broadside was fired in salute. And they soon stood alongside the vessel, When a life-saving dinghy was lowered With the pick of the crew, And her relatives too, And the mate and the skipper aboard. So they took her aboard in a jiffy And the shark stood at attention the while, Then he raised on his flipper And ate up the skipper And went on his way with a smile. And this shows that the prince of the ocean, To ladies forbearing and mild, Though his record be dark, Is the man-eating shark Who will eat neither woman nor child Reprinted in Song Fest by Dick and Beth Best from Nautical Lays of a Landsman by Wallace Irwin @fish @animal Copyright 1904 Wallace Irwin filename[ CHIVSHAR TUNE FILE: CHIVSHAR CLICK TO PLAY SOF
-Joe- Nautical Lays of a Landsman |
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07 Jan 03 - 04:40 AM (#860494) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: alanabit I hadn't seen this one before. Thanks. I loved it. |
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07 Jan 03 - 07:17 AM (#860554) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Dave Bryant Obviously the shark in "Jaws" hadn't been properly educated. |
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07 Jan 03 - 08:31 AM (#860584) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Charley Noble One of my old favorites as well! But that last verse, Joe. Are you sure it's correct? And this shows that the prince of the ocean, To ladies forbearing and mild, Though his record be dark, IS the man-eating shark Who will eat neither woman nor child. We always sang it: This shows that the Prince of the Ocean, To maidens forbearing and mild, Though his record be dark, IT'S the chivalrous shark Who will eat neither woman nor child. Cheerily, Charley Noble I like your rendition better, Charley, but Song Fest has is. -Joe Offer- |
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07 Jan 03 - 11:56 AM (#860738) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Steve Benbows protege A song I learnt from Steve. He recorded it in the late sixties. Always has audiences in laughter!! Do have chords if any one wants them. |
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07 Jan 03 - 12:27 PM (#860768) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Stilly River Sage I always loved that song. Great when sung to small children at bedtime. SRS |
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07 Jan 03 - 12:38 PM (#860778) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Thomas the Rhymer Thanks Joe! Swallowed't ho'... |
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07 Jan 03 - 01:18 PM (#860809) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Noreen Is is correct: Could be written: that the prince of the ocean (to ladies forbearing and mild, though his record be dark) is the man-eating shark i.e. The prince of the ocean is the man-eating shark. Snuffy does a great job of this! |
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07 Jan 03 - 02:56 PM (#860883) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Joe Offer I found this song in one of the Silver Burdett music textbooks, with only the first two verses and the last one. The textbook identifies it as an "American folk song." Lyrics are exactly what I posted in the first message of this thread. I wonder if we can find original sheet music. It seems, though, that Dick and Beth Best got it correct and complete in Song Fest, and it would seem to me that they have correctly attributed the song to Wallace Irwin. -Joe Offer- |
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07 Jan 03 - 03:25 PM (#860899) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Charley Noble As I recall singing this verse: She struggled and flounced in the water And signaled in vain for her BARK, there was often a volunteer "BARK" from the chorus. In the second verse I ususally sing "sailors" instead of "seamen" but that's just a matter of personal taste. Charley Noble |
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07 Jan 03 - 04:52 PM (#860974) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Art Thieme Joe, This song is on my recording called A.Thieme--Live At Winfield, Kansas('84). Burl Ives Coronation Concert (for Queen Elizabeth---1950s) was my source and those words were as you've posted in this thread. Art Thieme |
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07 Jan 03 - 04:55 PM (#860978) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: GUEST,Claymore It seems I recall a version of this song sung on one of the Sing Along with Mitch Miller albums of the early 60's. |
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07 Jan 03 - 06:55 PM (#861082) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Snuffy I got it from a Hughie Jones CD. On the liner notes he says he got it from a Burl Ives recording, maybe the same one Art got it from. Unfortunately I've never heard the Ives version. WassaiL! V |
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07 Jan 03 - 07:49 PM (#861143) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: GUEST Could Mr Irwin possibly have been unaware of that pun? It induced me, 40 years ago, to explore the possibilities of "eat" as well. |
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08 Jan 03 - 03:22 PM (#861851) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: dick greenhaus Now I'm confused. The missing line isn't missing an eny of the downloadable versions. Apparently we get some glitches in translating to the online format. |
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19 Feb 08 - 06:27 AM (#2266063) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Mr Happy A nice rendition here:http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h8yyMNPjKoE |
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19 Feb 08 - 08:15 AM (#2266128) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: GUEST,BobL While we're on the subject... I earned it from a Burl Ives recording "Songs for and about Women", 10 inch LP circa 1955, which may be a compendium of previously released tracks. In the last verse, he leaves out the disputed (see above) "is/it's" at the start of the penultimate line and the "who" at the start of the last line, which makes a better fit to the music. I leave out the last verse altogether, it's a bit of an anticlimax. |
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19 Feb 08 - 08:38 AM (#2266147) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Snuffy Anti-climax? Far from it. If you've got 'em all joining in the screaing and broadsides etc, then everyone's raring to join in the big ending "will eat neither woman nor child" with (preferably) harmonies, or just pure volume. And it takes the kiddie's minds off the fate of the poor captain! |
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19 Feb 08 - 09:46 AM (#2266213) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Uncle_DaveO A long time ago I got the words from somewhere, without the tune. Well, nothing for it but to "write" my own tune, which I did, and I've been singing it that way for lo, these many years. Not surprisingly, I suppose, I like my own tune better than that I just listened to from the DT. Oh, well. Of such is the folk tradition made. Dave Oesterreich |
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19 Feb 08 - 11:10 AM (#2266293) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Flash Company Got this from the same source as BobL above, as I recall also Devilish Mary and a version of The Unfortunate Man. Remember that Steve Benbow sang it too. FC |
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19 Feb 08 - 09:23 PM (#2266995) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Joe_F In view of the date & respectable provenance of this song, we should keep our mind out of the (uh) gunwale & scrupulously refrain from attributing bawdy intent to the words "eat" and "seamen". |
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19 Feb 08 - 11:07 PM (#2267048) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Stilly River Sage Are you surprised that an anonymous post is inappropriate when reading into the meaning of the song? I'm as willing to find bawdy meanings as anyone, but GUEST 07:49 PM's suggestion is simply silly. SRS |
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21 Sep 13 - 01:37 PM (#3560167) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: GUEST,Ken Rowley She shouted in vain for the BARK SHOULD BE WRITTEN She shouted in vain for the BARQUE Barque is a type of three masted sailing ship and with this correction the words make sense. I have seen the spelling bark mis-used for a ship, but NEVER in anything with a true nautical connection. When we sing this song my wife gives a small scream after Barque and it always gets a laugh. |
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21 Sep 13 - 02:26 PM (#3560172) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: dick greenhaus bark 3 also barque (bärk) n. 1. A sailing ship with from three to five masts, all of them square-rigged except the after mast, which is fore-and-aft rigged. 2. A small vessel that is propelled by oars or sails. |
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21 Sep 13 - 05:37 PM (#3560198) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: GUEST,Ken Rowley Sorry, I was interupted whilst typing my comment. My wife actually screams after "Fell into the bay with a scream". |
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21 Sep 13 - 07:16 PM (#3560213) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Uncle Tone This was part of Cyril Tawney's repertoire too, although I don't think he ever recorded it. He liked to sing it after a few bevies late at night. Tone |
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17 May 18 - 08:09 PM (#3925332) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: BK Lick Art's recording (and several other lovely things) are available online at: Soundcloud |
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17 May 18 - 09:52 PM (#3925341) Subject: RE: Correction: The Chivalrous Shark From: Nancy King I'm coming late to this discussion, but thought I should put in that I've always sung the last few of lines as: Though his record be dark, The man-eating shark Will eat neither woman nor child. Makes perfect sense, with no "it's," no "who." Just my 2 cents' worth. |
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18 May 18 - 01:15 AM (#3925350) Subject: RE: Origins: The Chivalrous Shark (Wallace Irwin-1904) From: Joe Offer Anybody got time to transcribe the lyrics from the original source, Nautical Lays of a Landsman? I'm stuck with a Chromebook for a couple weeks and can't open the file. -Joe- |
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18 May 18 - 04:46 AM (#3925372) Subject: RE: Origins: The Chivalrous Shark (Wallace Irwin-1904) From: BK Lick THE RHYME OF THE CHIVALROUS SHARK (Transcribed from Nautical Lays of a Landsman by Wallace Irwin) Most chivalrous fish of the ocean, To ladies forbearing and mild, Though his record be dark, is the man-eating shark Who will eat neither woman nor child. He dines upon seamen and skippers, And tourists his hunger assuage, And a fresh cabin boy will inspire him with joy If he's past the maturity age. A doctor, a lawyer, a preacher, He'll gobble one any fine day, But the ladies, God bless 'em, he'll only address 'em Politely and go on his way. I can readily cite you an instance Where a lovely young lady of Breem, Who was tender and sweet and delicious to eat, Fell into the bay with a scream. She struggled and flounced in the water And signaled in vain for her bark, And she'd surely been drowned if she hadn't been found By a chivalrous man-eating shark. He bowed in a manner most polished, Thus soothing her impulses wild; "Don't be frightened," he said, "I've been properly bred And will eat neither woman nor child." Then he proffered his fin and she took it— Such a gallantry none can dispute— While the passengers cheered as the vessel they neared And a broadside was fired in salute. And they soon stood alongside the vessel, When a life-saving dingey was lowered With the pick of the crew, and her relatives, too, And the mate and the skipper aboard. So they took her aboard in a jiffy, And the shark stood attention the while, Then he raised on his flipper and ate up the skipper And went on his way with a smile. And this shows that the prince of the ocean, To ladies forebearing and mild, Though his record be dark, is the man-eating shark Who will eat neither woman nor child. |
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18 May 18 - 03:12 PM (#3925551) Subject: RE: Origins: The Chivalrous Shark (Wallace Irwin-1904) From: Richard Mellish I remember some of it from the singing of (probably) Shirley Abicair when I was a nipper. If my memory is accurate, she ended it the same way as Nancy. |