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BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?

12 Jan 03 - 02:55 PM (#865320)
Subject: BS:
From: McGrath of Harlow

From today's Observer (and it is not a spoof):

Chefs set to lead the way in war on Saddam

Chefs have been drafted in to command soldiers training for a possible assault on Iraq because Britain's elite infantry regiments are so short of experienced soldiers.

Specialised cooking staff from the third battalion of the Parachute regiment, one of the British Army's most prestigious units, are deployed as sergeants and section commanders on battle exercises in south Wales. The unit, part of the 16th Air Assault Brigade, is likely to spearhead any British contribution to an American-led force in the Gulf.

The move has enraged fighting soldiers in the regiment. 'These are guys who haven't been on frontline duties for years. Are they going to take out a bunker with a ladle?', one said. 'We have got chefs supposed to be giving elite soldiers detailed fire control instructions. How can they do that if they have been organising potato peeling since the last Gulf War?'


For the full story, click here.


12 Jan 03 - 04:37 PM (#865379)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: DougR

Well, in a pinch McGrath, they can probably whip up some fish and chips or something, eh? :>)

DougR


12 Jan 03 - 04:53 PM (#865387)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Rapparee

This has to be a violation of the Geneva Accords! SOME treaty has to prevent military cooks from...Oh My God! Culinary warfare! Worse, *military* culinary warfare!

Will they draft Jamie Oliver next?


12 Jan 03 - 04:53 PM (#865388)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Charley Noble

Ah...Saddam's goose is cooked?

Or will these sergeants just make a hash of it?

Somebody stop me before I'm forced to kill...

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


12 Jan 03 - 05:34 PM (#865410)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: smallpiper

Anybody tasted army cooking - I'm scared believe me and so should be anyone they come up against!


12 Jan 03 - 05:53 PM (#865420)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: harvey andrews

Threaten any enemy with army catering and they will surrender. I did quite a few Combined services entertainment gigs in the last vestiges of Empire in the 70's/80's and a Brize Norton breakfast at 4 in the morning before embarking for the flight, swimming as it did in a sea of grease and cholesterol, would stop anything.( or the reverse)


12 Jan 03 - 06:29 PM (#865459)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Snuffy

Aldershot Cement Company rules, OK!


12 Jan 03 - 07:08 PM (#865480)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: McGrath of Harlow

"An army marches on its stomach"



To avoid any misunderstanding, in the British Army "Bangers" does not mean explosives, but sausages. Weapons of Mess Destruction.


12 Jan 03 - 07:57 PM (#865508)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: artbrooks

Huuuum...does this mean that the machine gunners and radio operators are now cooking? And has the food gotten any better?


12 Jan 03 - 08:00 PM (#865509)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Blackcatter

Considering the quality of food in the armed forces, maybe the chefs should be on the front line...

pax yall


12 Jan 03 - 08:55 PM (#865536)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: McGrath of Harlow

Of course all this could be a cunning plan to put the enemy off guard... If Baldrick was a general I think we'd expect something of that kind.


12 Jan 03 - 10:16 PM (#865594)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Peter Kasin

Reminds me of a verse in a WWII U.S. soldiers morale song:

"The potatoes in the army
they say they're mighty fine
One rolled off the table
and killed a pal of mine.."


13 Jan 03 - 02:49 AM (#865709)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: GUEST,desert rat

andys cap commandos (ACC) at it again.


13 Jan 03 - 03:12 AM (#865717)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Gervase

Having seen what an Airborne cook can do to a humble meat pie, I don't think there'll be any shortage of hard cover or fragmentation weapons for the troops!


13 Jan 03 - 04:55 AM (#865763)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: HuwG

Anything Cookable Cremated.


13 Jan 03 - 07:01 AM (#865805)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Sandra in Sydney

Cooks were called baitlayers by shearers earlier in Australia's history.

sandra


13 Jan 03 - 08:22 AM (#865843)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: GUEST,A very old soldier

A very old army 'joke'.

Who called the cook a bastard?

Who called the bastard a cook?


13 Jan 03 - 08:39 AM (#865857)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Dead Horse

About time the para's went on a Cooks Tour!
The dreaded Red Berets are tomato flavour, then?


13 Jan 03 - 12:52 PM (#866024)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Schantieman

Pack up your dixie for the old front line
To braise and boil.
Whilst you've an enemy to drive away
Fry and roast and broil.
What's the use of infantry,
And engineers to toil?
So: send for the caterers to chop and slice
and braise and boil!

Steve


13 Jan 03 - 03:30 PM (#866143)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Charley Noble

Let's raise a mug to Steve!

Up ladles, me lads, seek out and destroy!

Charley Noble


13 Jan 03 - 04:28 PM (#866182)
Subject: Lyr Add: COOK 'EM ALL
From: McGrath of Harlow

Nice Schantieman. Or alternatively:

Cook 'em all, cook 'em all,
Now the cookies have answered the call.
Cook all the sergeants and the officers too,
And cook all their privates to serve in a stew.
They say that we're headed away to the East
Though we'd much sooner go down the pub,
There's some bugger called Bush says it's time for a push,
Though we'd rather be dishing up grub.

Here we go, cheerio,
You might think we are marching too slow,
But the British divisions need ample provisions,
To be fit for to fight with the foe,
I hear that the tanks that we got from the Yanks
Are inclined to get stuck in the sand,
But with bangers and mash we will cut quite a dash,
So they need us to give them a hand.

Cook em all, cook em all,
The long and the short and the tall,
They're cooking up something and it seems it's a war,
So it's time to get stuck in, like always before.
But are we downhearted or are we distressed?
Why no, we'll be having a ball,
For cookie is always at home in a mess.
So cheer up me lads, cook 'em all.


13 Jan 03 - 05:05 PM (#866206)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Charley Noble

"And cook all their PRIVATES to serve in a stew." LOL

But nice one, McGrath!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


13 Jan 03 - 08:34 PM (#866320)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: GUEST,Q

An old cowboy term for cook was biscuit-shooter. I guess they would have to be called scone-shooters in the British Army. Or do they have scones in the Army?


13 Jan 03 - 09:01 PM (#866339)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: GUEST

I can recall that there were two types of cooks in infantry regiments:
1)Army Catering Corp cook - attached to a unit for a number of years and they will have done basic training like every soldier.

2)Regimental Cooks - men from within the Regiment who go on a cooking course and come back,if qualified,as a cook. These cooks will have done their infantry training and if applicable undergone the NCO cadres necessary to learn battlefield leadership skills.

So no problem if it is a 2) but if it is a 1) then hellzapoppin.

Just my 2 percent.
CD.


14 Jan 03 - 11:00 AM (#866727)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Schantieman

BRILLIANT! McGrath.   You should be a folkie!

Steve


14 Jan 03 - 12:15 PM (#866788)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: aussiebloke

A short cooks poem, although he may have been tall.

"What'll it be?" asked the cook, reflectively picking his nose.
"A couple of boiled eggs you bas**rd, ya can't stick your fingers in those!"

Cheers

aussiebloke


14 Jan 03 - 12:38 PM (#866801)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Schantieman

Looking at that song again, McG., I think it deserves a wider audience. I wonder who'd give it air time/column space. John Peel, perhaps, on Home Truths?

S


14 Jan 03 - 12:57 PM (#866812)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: DougR

Congratulations McGrath! You have succeeded in posting a humorous thread without nary a cross post. Refreshing, eh?

DougR


14 Jan 03 - 02:34 PM (#866864)
Subject: Lyr Add: COOK 'EM ALL
From: McGrath of Harlow

That's an idea Schantieman. I've just looked up tye John Peewl Home Truths website, and stuck this in the email slot on the home page:

There was a story in the paper on Sunday about Army Chefs being put in charge of fighting units - http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,873354,00.html - so I posted it on an international forum of folkies round the world, because the stuff about the war has understandably been a bit heavy. This led to a discussion (http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=55622&messages=28), and led me to write this version of Bless 'Em All.

And someone suggested that sending it to John Peel, that staunch ex-squaddy, might be fitting. So here it is:

Cook 'em all, cook 'em all,
Now the cookies have answered the call.
Cook all the sergeants and the officers too,
And cook all their privates to serve in a stew.
They say that we're headed away to the East
Though we'd much sooner go down the pub,
There's some bugger called Bush says it's time for a push,
Though we'd rather be dishing up grub.

Here we go, cheerio,
You might think we are marching too slow,
But the British divisions need ample provisions,
To be fit for to fight with the foe,
I hear that the tanks that we got from the Yanks
Are inclined to get stuck in the sand,
But with bangers and mash we will cut quite a dash,
So they need us to give them a hand.

Cook em all, cook em all,
The long and the short and the tall,
They're cooking up something and it seems it's a war,
So it's time to get stuck in, like always before.
But are we downhearted or are we distressed?
Why no, we'll be having a ball,
For cookie is always at home in a mess.
So cheer up me lads, cook 'em all.


14 Jan 03 - 08:16 PM (#867047)
Subject: RE: BS: Chefs in charge in British Army?
From: Charley Noble

It's amazing, gang, what can be accomplished with just a little encouragement. ;~)

Cheerily,
Charley Noble