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Lyr Req: Sweet Cider

30 Jan 03 - 03:45 AM (#878250)
Subject: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider ???
From: GUEST,Cookie

Does anyone know the title & artist of this song?

My dad sang a song from Tin Pan Alley days that started "On the hill, where we made sweet cider, I made sweet love to you...." Any ideas what this might have been?

Thanks


08 Feb 03 - 06:51 AM (#885404)
Subject: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider???
From: GUEST,Sam

My dad sang a song from Tin Pan Alley days that started "On the hill, where we made sweet cider, I made sweet love to you...." Any ideas what this might have been?


08 Feb 03 - 11:06 AM (#885499)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: Sorcha

I managed to find out that the music is by Percy Wenrich, lyrics by Joseph McCarthy, title is Sweet Cider Time When You Were Mine. It's an American song written 1916 but I didn't find any lyrics. Checked Levy, Duke, American Music Collections and Google.


08 Feb 03 - 11:41 AM (#885538)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: masato sakurai

There's a sound clip for "Sweet cider time when you were mine" HERE. A different song?

~Masato


08 Feb 03 - 12:21 PM (#885565)
Subject: Thank you so much.
From: GUEST,Sam

Thank you both for your help on this one. I'll see what I can find
with this information.


08 Feb 03 - 12:31 PM (#885571)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

Tells us a 1916 date here:

http://americanhistory.si.edu/archives/d5300lh8.htm

Midi files are available here:

http://happyplace.cherrytaco.com/jenny/downloads/sweetcider.zip

Found here:

http://www.angelfire.com/ab/alicefaye/hfhlyrics.html

TRUDY:
By the mill where they make sweet cider, I made sweet love to you.
Mill wheel was turning as I sat there yearning for one kiss, the sweetest I knew.
On the hill from the old town chapel those evening bells would chime.
I'll always remember that golden November, sweet cider time when you were mine.


09 Feb 03 - 05:35 AM (#885962)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: masato sakurai

There's another sound clip of "Sweet Cider Time, When You Were Mine" by Eddie Condon HERE.


09 Feb 03 - 12:35 PM (#886119)
Subject: Made Sweet Love?
From: Joe Offer

Excuse me for thread drift, but when they "made sweet love" back in 1916, what were they referring to? I see many references to "making love" in old songs, and I'm not sure I can believe Grandma and Grandpa were singing about rolling in the hay.
Well, at least not in published songs...
But really, what did the term mean back then?
-Joe Offer-


09 Feb 03 - 01:23 PM (#886155)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: Jeri

When I was young, not as long ago as some may think, my parents and other relatives used the term around me. The meaning was kissing, hugging, cuddling - just showing affection in general. It could have mean two adults showing affection to each other, perhaps leading to sex, or a parent and a child smooching in a normal non-sexual parent/child manner.

I doubt it would be in a popular song from 1916 if it meant something other than "spoonin'."


09 Feb 03 - 01:31 PM (#886161)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: Jeri

Joe, I have a Webster's dictionary published in 1966 which gives the meaning as "to woo or embrace, kiss, etc. as lovers do." It may have changed over the years so the "etc." is the predominant activity meant.


09 Feb 03 - 02:29 PM (#886191)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: masato sakurai

Titles and lines with "make love" from the Levy collection:

"Making Love in the Choir" (1884)

"Different Ways of Making Love" (1902)

It is nice to make love in most any old clime to a maid by the moonlit sea ("Dream City. The Magic Knight. Love By Telephone", 1906)

There is a certain knack, most people seem to lack in making love ("Things We Are Not Supposed To Know", 1907)

"Can I Make Love To You" (1908)

"Don't Drop a Quarter in the Meter (I'd Rather Make Love in the Dark)" (1912)

Stop! Can't you stop making love the whole night long! ("Come On And La-La With Me", 1914)

I've been making love to you, but your are so cold to me ("Give Me the Right to Love You", 1917)

"It Takes An Irishman To Make Love" (1917)

"Take Your Girlie To the Movies (If You Can't Make Love At Home)" (1919)

Some folks need atmosphere when they're making love ("It's The Girl! Fox Trot Song", 1931)

You make time and you make love dandy ("Are You Makin' Any Money?" 1933)

Now I'd never dream of making love with so many people near ("Dancing on a Dime", 1940)

Did you ever make love? If not, have a try ("Pull Down the Blind", n.d.)

~Masato


10 Feb 03 - 01:39 AM (#886547)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: Joe Offer

Ah, the things a guy can learn at Mudcat...
-Joe Offer-


10 Feb 03 - 09:20 AM (#886736)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: Jeri

Masato listed "Stop! Can't you stop making love the whole night long! ("Come On And La-La With Me", 1914)"

It's seems the term "making love" could have meant the same thing as "making whoopee." It makes me wonder about all those "la-la" choruses though.


12 Mar 23 - 02:29 PM (#4167406)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Cider
From: GUEST

Desperately looking for ukulele chords/tabs for Sweet Cider Time, When You Were Mine.....anyone?