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Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'

10 Feb 03 - 02:07 PM (#886929)
Subject: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Schantieman

In a MudChat discussion earlier this evening I was careless enough to use this expression. CapriUni asked where it came from.   A Google search has thrown up this:

"I'LL GET ME COAT"

Darrin asked about the origins of the catchphrase "I'll get me coat".

Richard "Mad Stoat" Powell expounded: It's a corruption of the olde Englishe phrase "Alget, me goat." which in turn is a corruption of the Aramaic "Alga mee goo." A literal translation of which is "One shall fetch one's over garment."

The origin of the Aramaic phrase is lost in the mists of time, but is believed to derive from the nomadic cattle herders of the Middle and Near East, who were well known for forgetting to take an overcoat when they went into town. Invariably they would walk into a bar and regale the regulars with wild tales of cattle herding and then offer to buy everyone a drink. They would then realise they'd left their money in their overcoat, and under the unamused glare of everyone, would mutter, "Alga mee goo." This is also to believed to be the cause of their nomadicity as they never returned to buy the bar a round of drinks. DNA fingerprinting has traced the current day descendants of the cattle herders to the Northern British Isles.


...which may not be utterly authentic.    Any ideas out there?

Steve


10 Feb 03 - 02:14 PM (#886940)
Subject: RE: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Schantieman

...and it's used on the UK TV comedy series The Fast Show (apparently!)


10 Feb 03 - 02:34 PM (#886953)
Subject: RE: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Nemesis

And by the same comedian who uses the phrase "which was nice!"

Which was nice... as he walked past the PEL petition at Victoria last week!


10 Feb 03 - 03:03 PM (#886979)
Subject: RE: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: GUEST,Wyrd Sister

And there's the noth-west (uk) version "get your coat, pet, you're pulled"


10 Feb 03 - 07:12 PM (#887153)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Geoff the Duck

Or occasionally - Get your pet goat! You've Pulled!


10 Feb 03 - 08:04 PM (#887195)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Murray MacLeod

This catchphrase didn't exist prior to the advent of the Fast Show.

"Suit YOU Sir" ....

Murray


10 Feb 03 - 08:06 PM (#887197)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Murray MacLeod

Ambiguous previous post.

"I'll get my coat " didn't exist as a catchphrase until the advent of the Fast Show.

Murray


10 Feb 03 - 10:32 PM (#887320)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: CapriUni

Heh, heh... Thanks Schantiman!

"The Fast Show," eh?

That would explain why I'd never heard the expression until I entered into the Brit-rich environs of the newsgroup Rec.arts.drwho... Of course, this was also the first newsgroup I'd stumbled into, so I wasn't sure if it was a British Culture thing, or an Internet Culture thing...

Though I liked your goat etymology, Schantieman... Though ... have you ever tried to get a goat? Damned hard critters to catch (had two pet ones, for a while, when I was growing up)...


10 Feb 03 - 10:54 PM (#887337)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Ebbie

Somehow I doubt that the origin of the phrase is recent. I remember the phrase: Here's your hat/coat- what's your hurry? from way back. I don't remember when I first heard this 'new' one but it seems to me that it may derive from the earlier one.


11 Feb 03 - 05:31 AM (#887459)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Schantieman

It doesn't seem that new.... any more theories?

S


11 Feb 03 - 06:09 AM (#887483)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Mrs.Duck

Ebbie I remember that one as "Must you go-where's your hat?" Same idea though. I am certainly unaware of the phrase "I'll get my coat " being used before The Fast Show but that doesn't mean it didn't - maybe we should ask them!


11 Feb 03 - 07:42 AM (#887537)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Steve Parkes

Getting one's goat is easier than having it. You can't have your goat and eat it, as that's not kosher.

Steve


11 Feb 03 - 11:53 AM (#887733)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: M.Ted

If you've heard "Here's your hat and coat, what's your hurry?" from way back, it may be time to take inventory--


11 Feb 03 - 11:58 AM (#887738)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Schantieman

...I'll keep my coat on...I'm not stopping!


11 Feb 03 - 12:23 PM (#887760)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Steve Parkes

Ken Platt: "I won't take me coat off, I'm not stoppin'!"


11 Feb 03 - 12:38 PM (#887776)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Schantieman

Who he?


11 Feb 03 - 12:52 PM (#887788)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Ebbie

LOL, M. Ted. But thou dost know what I mean, eh?


11 Feb 03 - 06:43 PM (#888057)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Nemesis

Capri: Although, the person recently witnessed in the UK as having carnal knowledge with a nanny goat in a field in full view of a stopped railway carriage must have succeeded in getting his goat .. certainly, it got a lot of other people's goat!
(He was subsequently caught and prosecuted .. not sure what hppened to the goat..)


11 Feb 03 - 08:49 PM (#888129)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Mr Red

Schantieman tghis is a clear cut case of -

I'll get my anorak......


12 Feb 03 - 02:47 AM (#888308)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Steve Parkes

And don't forget the terrible wrong that was done to Robert Post.


12 Feb 03 - 05:59 AM (#888370)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Nigel Parsons

Early-ish sighting on Mudcat:

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Matchstich Men' Brian and Michael
From: GUEST,Zebedee at work - PM
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 08:06 AM

"We're from Dartmoor on the run"
I think I'll get my coat (or possibly an anorak)

Ed


12 Feb 03 - 09:26 AM (#888490)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Roger the Skiffler

...Schantieman hasn't heard of Ken Platt, eh? Young people today....

RtS
(they'll be saying they don't know who Al Read was, too I suspect)


12 Feb 03 - 09:33 AM (#888496)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Snuffy

There was enough said at our Edie's wedding.


12 Feb 03 - 09:56 AM (#888516)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Guessed

Or was it a quote of Ghandi's

er ........ I'll get Mahat............


12 Feb 03 - 07:05 PM (#888978)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Snuffy

Mahatma Coate-Jeeves


12 Feb 03 - 10:46 PM (#889146)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Alice

This entire thread is greek to me.


13 Feb 03 - 03:52 AM (#889250)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Steve Parkes

OK guys -- less bubble for Alice!


13 Feb 03 - 08:32 AM (#889383)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Mrs.Duck

Worse thing about the goat is she never even bothered to visit him in jail!!


13 Feb 03 - 08:35 AM (#889386)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: GUEST,Mr Red (with one hand on the dictionary)

not hircine eh?

I'll get my donkey jacket...............


13 Feb 03 - 12:18 PM (#889569)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Steve Parkes

Aynuk goes for a job at the Balcksmith's.

Blacksmith: Have you ever shoed an 'oss?
Aynuk: No, but Ah'm always tellin' next door's donkey to bugger off.
Blacksmith: Do' tek yower coat off ...


13 Feb 03 - 05:06 PM (#889787)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: Mr Red

Could this goat referrence be a bodhran joke in disguise

"Beat it Kid"

I'll get my goatskin............


27 Oct 11 - 08:33 AM (#3245486)
Subject: RE: Folklore: Origins: 'I'll get my coat'
From: GUEST

UMM , OR MAYBE JUST FROM THE HARRY ENFEILD SHOW , BAD JOKE THEN ILL GET MY COAT ....