21 Feb 03 - 02:37 AM (#894967) Subject: Kentucky mountain music box set From: Stewie Yazoo label is about to release a 7-CD box set titled 'Kentucky Mountain Music'. I have seen release dates of later this month and early March. The Shanachie site has no track listings, but it has this snippet of info:
It should be a pretty amazing collection. --Stewie. |
21 Feb 03 - 03:04 AM (#894973) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: catspaw49 Words kinda' escape me here, but "Wow" kinda' fits the bill. This oughta' be something! Thanks Stewie. Spaw |
21 Feb 03 - 03:22 AM (#894978) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: GUEST,Sandy Paton Our Dick Greenhaus at Camsco Music will be able to get 'em for us at a reasonable price and return a wee bit to Max when he does. Please keep him in mind, and keep it in the family. The 2 Kentucky CDs I have from Yazoo are absolutely superb. I look forward to these new ones eagerly! Sandy |
21 Feb 03 - 05:38 AM (#895014) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: katlaughing Wow! Sounds fantastic! Thanks, kat |
21 Feb 03 - 11:45 PM (#895660) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: Richie Stewie, Let us know when it is released. -Richie |
22 Feb 03 - 10:23 PM (#896295) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: Stewie At the risk of attracting Joe's ire for a cut-and-paste job - although it was really a cut-and-paste and reformat job - I will post this review from Pat Conte of Secret Museum of the Air. Still no track listing, but this gives some idea of the genesis and quality of the project. This review was posted to the old-time country newsgroup. The Secret Museum of the Air, a fascinating site, may be found HERE.
--Stewie. Line breaks fixed. Cut-and-paste of MUSIC information like this is encouraged. -Joe Offer- |
22 Feb 03 - 10:43 PM (#896312) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: Steve Latimer How's that for timing. I just watched Songcatcher (I'm not kidding 'Spaw). I'm sure the boxset will be a lot better than the movie. I hope that it's reasonably priced. |
02 Mar 03 - 01:34 AM (#901508) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: WFDU - Ron Olesko I received a copy of this set yesterday. I have not listened to all 7 discs yet, but I can sum it up as "amazing". Pat Conte summed it up more eloquently than I could, but I would like to add my thoughts. These recordings have been "cleaned" up and sound superb. Some purists may take issue with cleaning, but as Richard Nevins said in the liner notes, this set is meant for entertainment. Entertain it does. Educate too. This set shows the depth and diversity of music found in Kentucky in the 1920's and 1930's. It is a combination of commercial recordings and field recordings. The very first cut, Burnett & Rutherford doing "Ladies on the Mountain" just bowled me over. I know that a lot of care went into this project. This is a set that we will be talking about for years to come. Thank you Richard & Shanachie!! Ron |
02 Mar 03 - 01:57 AM (#901515) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: Stewie Thanks, Ron. Here's the track listing that someone kindly posted to the old-timey newsgroup. Simply looking at the listing, 'amazing' is an understatement. I'm going to have this whatever it costs! Disc 1: LADIES ON THE STEAMBOAT- Burnett & Rutherford THE DYING SOLDIER- Buell Kazee LITTLE RABBITT/RABBITT WHERE'S YOUR MAMMY- Crockett Family Mountaineers I TRULY UNDERSTAND YOU LOVE ANOTHER- Shortbuckle Roarke & Family EIGHTH OF JANUARY- Ted Gossett's Band ALL NIGHT LONG BLUES- Burnett & Rutherford SHIPPING PORT- Jimmy Johnson's String Band THE ROWAN COUNTY CREW- Robert L. Day DEER WALK- Doc Roberts LET HER GO, I'LL MEET HER- Rutherford & Foster THAT'S MY RABBIT, MY DOG CAUGHT IT- Walter Family LILLIE DALE- Martin & Roberts CUMBERLAND GAP- Rutherford, Moore & Burnett THE OLD FISH SONG- James Howard THE RED HIL SPECIAL- Fort Thomas Group IF I DIE A RAILROAD MAN- Green Bailey GRAND HORNPIPE- J.W. Day EAST VIRGINIA- Walter Williams FORKED DEER- Taylor's Kentucky Boys PRETTY POLLY- Pete Steele RUN BANJO- Justis Begley WE'LL UNDERSTAND IT BETTER BYE AND BYE- Kentucky Mountain Chorusters Disc 2: CURLEY HEADED WOMAN- Burnett & Rutherford GATE TO GO THROUGH- Jimmy Johnson’s String Band HOT CORN- Martin & Roberts GRANDMA'S RAG- Taylor, Moore & Burnett I'M AS FREE LITTLE BIRDIE AS CAN BE- Rutherford & Foster ROCKY MOUNTAIN GOAT- Ted Gossett's Band SHUT UP IN COAL CREEK MINE- Green Bailey SUGAR IN MY COFFEE (MEDLEY)- Crockett Family Mountaineers THE BUTCHER'S BOY (THE RAILROAD BOY)- Buell Kazee NEW MONEY- Doc Roberts PEARL BRYAN- Burnett & Rutherford CROOKED JOHN- Kentucky String Ticklers THE MOONSHINER- Daw Henson FORKED DEER- J.W. Day THE DIXIE COWBOY- Taylor's Kentucky Boys MISSISSIPPI SAWYER- Walter Williams SIX MONTHS AIN'T LONG- Rutherford & Foster BLACKBERRY BLOSSOM- Ed Morrison ELLEN SMITH- Theophilus Hoskins FIVE UP- Henry L. Bandy PAYDAY AT COAL CREEK- Pete Steele GOLDEN WILLOW TREE- Justis Begley THE LAST APPEAL- Alice & Martha Williams & Elizabeth Flatt Disc 3: WAY UP ON CLINCH MOUNTAIN- J.W. Day GOING TO JAIL- Ted Gossett's Band RICHMOND BLUES- Rutherford & Foster SOAP IN THE WASHPAN- Jimmy Johnson's String Band AIN'T GOING TO LAY MY ARMOR DOWN- McVay & Johnson OLD VOILE- Blue Ridge Mountaineers GENTLE ANNIE- Asa Martin BILLY IN THE LOW GROUND- Burnett & Rutherford LADY MARGARET AND SWEET WILLIAM- Daw Henson AND THE CAT CAME BACK- Doc Roberts PASS AROUND THE BOTTLE- Walter Williams COAL CREEK MARCH- Marion Underwood JOHNNY O JOHNNY- Pete Steele TAYLOR'S QUCKSTETP (MONROE COUNTY QUICKSTEP)- Rutherford & Foster I'VE BEEN ALL AROUND THIS WORLD- Justis Begley JENNY BAKER- Jimmy Johson's String Band COME ALL YOU ROVING COWBOYS- Clay Walters SOLDIER'S JOY- Taylor's Kentucky Boys I CAME TO THIS COUNTRY- Maynard Britton MEDLEY OF OLD TIME DANCE TUNES PART 1 (HUSKING BEE/OLD MOLLY HARE/WILD HORESE/SOLDIER'S JOY/ ARKANSAS TRAVELLER)- Crockett Family Mountaineers RAMBLING RICKLESS HOBO- Burnett & Rutherford WILD HORSE- Bill Stepp & Walter Williams OLD CHRISTMAS- Boyd Asher THE ROWAN COUNTY FEUD- Ted Chestnut WISH I HAD MY TIME AGAIN- Hatton Brothers Disc 4: OLD FLANNIGAN- Blue Ridge Mountaineers WILLIE MOORE- Burnett & Rutherford THE WILD WAGONER- J.W. Day MY CABIN HOME AMONG THE HILLS- Asa Martin BOW LEGGED IRISHMAN- Ted Gosset's Band THERE'S NO ONE LIKE THE OLD FOLKS- Rutherford & Foster OLD BLIND DOG- Jimmy Johnson's String Band THE SPORTING BACHELORS- Buell Kazee SOURWOOD MOUNTAIN- Tayor's Kentucky Boys THE ROVING BOY- Justis Begley MEDLEY OF OLD TIME DANCE TUNES PART 2 (SOURWOOD MOUNTAIN/SALLY IN THE GARDEN/SALLY GOODIN)- Crockett Family Mountaineers LACK FOL DIDDLE I DAY- Pete Steele LOST JOHN- Burnett & Rutherford THERE'S MORE PRETTY GIRLS THAN ONE- Rutherford & Foster SHAKER BEN- Walter Family JESUS WALKING THROUG THE LAND- Rev Sherwin Sizemore & Church of the Ten Elders PICKAWAY- Green's String Band WALLINS CREEK GIRLS- Daw Henson WE'LL ALL GO TO HEAVEN WHEN THE DEVIL GOES BLIND- Ed Morrison JOHN HARDY- Walter Williams WINK THE OTHER EYE- Hack's String Band HICKORY JACK- Boyd Asher WORKING'S TOO HARD- J.M. Mullins SAIL AWAY LADIES- Henry L. Bandy THE GREAT REAPING DAY- Kentucky Mountain Chorusters Disc 5: BUFFALO GALS (MEDLEY)- Crockett Family Mountaineers THREE BLACK SHEEP- Howard & Peak RUN THEM COONS IN THE GROUND- Clifford Gross IS WISH I WAS A MOLE IN THE GROUND- Green Baily FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN- Ted Gossett's Band WAKE UP YOU DROWSY SLEEPERS- Oaks Family CUTTIN AT THE POIN- Charlie Wilson & His Hillbillies THE COWBOY TRAIL- Buell Kazee DRINK MORE CIDER- Jimmy Johnson's String Band TWO FAITHFUL LOVERS- Rutherford & Foster MAXWELL GIRL- Taylor&'s Kentucky Boys SWAFFORD BRANCH STILLS- Daw Henson WILD HOG IN THE WOODS- Lonesome Luke & His Farm Boys THE SOLDIER AND THE LADY- Marvin Thornton & Fort Thomas Group PINE TREE- Kentucky Woodchoppers LORD DANIEL- Green Maggard LEAVING HERE BLUES- Kentucky String Ticklers THE PEDDLER AND HIS WIFE- James Howard WAYNESBURGH- Doc Roberts LITTLE STREAM OF WHISKEY- Burnett & Rutherford NEXT TO YOUR MOTHER, WHO DO YOU LOVE- Madisonville String Band LITTLE BIRDIE- Pete Steele HOG EYED MAN- Theophilus Hoskins (FRAGMENT)- Walter Williams I'LL BE READY WHEN THE BRIDEGROOM COMES- McVay & Johnson Disc 6: BILL CHEATHAM- Mangrum & Shriver SHORT LIFE OF TROUBLE- Buell Kazee B FLAT RAG- Madisonville String Band THE FATE OF ELLEN SMITH- Green Bailey WASHINGTON QUADRILLE- Jimmy Johnson' String Band STORMS MAY RULE THE OCEAN- Rutherford & Foster GRAY EAGLE- Taylor'sKentucky Boys BILE DEM CABBAGE DOWN- Crockett Family Mountaineers MARTHA CAMPBELL- Doc Roberts I'LL BE WITH YOU WHEN THE ROSES BLOOM AGAIN- Burnett & Rutherford SHELVIN ROCK- Charlie Wilson & His Hillbillies THE ROVING COWBOY- Buell Kazee FOX CHASE- Ted Gossett' Band DOGS IN THE ASHCAN- Lonesome Luke & His Farm Boys COME ALL YE FAIR AND HANDSOME GIRLS- Green Maggard RAMBLING HOBO- Pete Steele LEATHER BREECHES- Clifford Gross POISON IN A GLASS OF WINE- Bill Bundy THE VALENTINE- Tom West FLYING CLOUD WALTZ- Walter Family A WESTERN UNION TELEGRAM- Ed Morrison MY LITTLE CARPENTER- James Howard HOOK AND LINE- Hatton Brothers WILL IT PAY- Oaks Family Disc 7: ROCKY MOUNTAIN GOAT- Cliford Gross THE ORPHAN GIRL- Buell Kazee HONEYMOON STOMP- Doc Roberts Trio I AIN'T A BIT DRUNK- George Roark BACON AND CABBAGE- Mangrum & Shriver I CANNOT BE YOUR SWEETHEART- Howard & Peak LITTLE BOY WORKING ON THE ROAD- J.W. Day I MUST SEE MY MOTHERS- Martin & Hobbs NEW HARMONY WALTZ- Kentucky Woodchoppers SUGAR HILL- Crockett Family Mountaineers KENTUCKY PLOWBOY'S MARCH- Hack's String Band YOU'LL MISS ME WHEN I'M GONE- Oaks Family TIPPLE BLUES- Kentucky String Ticklers ONLY A MINER KILLED IN THE GROUND- Ted Chestnut RYE STRAW- Doc Roberts A FLOWER FROM THE FIELDS OF ALABAMA- Rutherford, Moore & Burnett CHING CHOW- Jimmy Johnson's String Band MY MOTHER'S HANDS- Shortbuckle Roark & Family MY PRETTY SNOW DEER- Madisonville String Band WALTER FAMILY WALTZ- Walter Family GOING ACROSS THE SEA- Henry L Bandy KNOXVILLE RAG- Taylor, Moore & Burnett I'M ROLLING ALONG- Buell Kazee --Stewie. |
02 Mar 03 - 02:41 AM (#901533) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: Jerry Rasmussen I just received a catalogue from Collector's Choice Music, and they are selling the set, so it's out and available... Jerry |
02 Mar 03 - 05:04 AM (#901566) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: Joe Offer Looks like the price is $90 at Amazon and at Collectors' Choice Music. How much documentation comes with the music, Ron? That's one thing about the Yazoo collections that I found disappointing - the CD booklets don't give a whole lot of information. The recordings are old, and sometimes hard to understand. A transcription of the lyrics would really help. -Joe Offer- |
02 Mar 03 - 05:49 AM (#901578) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: Stewie CD Universe have it on offer for $US62.99 which seems very reasonable indeed. Click Here --Stewie. |
02 Mar 03 - 10:27 AM (#901668) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Joe, About the booklet that accompanies the set, let me quote Richard Nevins in the liner notes - "the entire orientation of this project has been purely entertainment, not academics, and we hope you'll find it both enjoyable and gratifying." The booklet contains some very beautiful pictures of the artists that I find fascinating. The quality of the art is superb. The notes in the booklet are typical of liner notes, it is more of a commentary or history if you will as opposed to a text book source. An interesting read that gives you an idea of the sessions, the artists and the music - but it will not be considered a source document for learning tunes. The track listing booklet does not get bogged down with recording dates, although you can find MOST of that information by reading the commentary. There are no lyrics included, but you will find the sound quality surprising good and very listenable. This is not like many of the other collections I have heard. A great deal of time has been spent on re-mastering. Nevins says in the notes that the approach was to highlight the dynamics and tone of the performances and supress the inherent noise as much as possible without detracting from the music. On many of the originals, the performers were too far away from the mic, but the remastering has done a great service to "repair" the sound. Ron |
02 Mar 03 - 11:31 AM (#901702) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: dick greenhaus It's not out yet--due March 11 or so. CAMSCO can't quote a price yet, because I haven't found out what it costs me, but I've generally been able to beat Collectors Choice prices and can usually match or beat CDUniverse's. A wee bit of ordering patience can help both CAMSCO and Mudcat. |
02 Mar 03 - 01:00 PM (#901757) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: GUEST, Dale Just what I was about to say, Dick. Put me down for one. |
03 Mar 03 - 10:44 AM (#902358) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: dick greenhaus For them what's interested--CAMSCO will be selling this set for an unbelievably low price of $60. If you want a set, please let me know, so I can tell how many to order. |
24 Mar 03 - 10:45 PM (#917575) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: dick greenhaus Just listened to this set. In the words of academia.."WOW!" They're available now; $60 at CAMSCO |
25 Mar 03 - 05:56 PM (#918326) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: GUEST,Walking Eagle I have to reset my cookie. I read the list provided and I though I'd die of happiness! This is indeed a good collection. Are you 'listening' Kytrad? Would appreciate your comments if you have learned anything of this collection. |
20 Jun 03 - 05:41 PM (#969913) Subject: Review: Kentucky Mountain Music 7 CD Set From: graywolf1980 I have read a few of the comments posted here about the Kentucky Mountain Music 7 CD set on Yazoo. I totally agree that is it fabulous! Most of these perfomers was not famous, but lived and worked on farms in rural Kentucky. I wonder if any of the descendants of these musicians know about this set? Any descendants on this board? I have only read the booklet that accompanied this set once when I first got it, so I may not recall correctly, but is it possible that Yazoo/Sanachie will remaster and release the songs NOT included on this set? I believe only one or two copies existed for many of these recordings, and personally, I want more! I moved this message here from another thread on the same topic. |
20 Jun 03 - 07:04 PM (#969948) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set From: Joe Offer Hi, Graywolf - take a look at the Website of Yazoo Records. Kentucky Mountain Music is only one of many sets that are available. I started out trying to get all of them, but got swamped in CD's. One thing - I wish the CD booklets had lyrics printed. The recordings have been nicely restored, but some are still hard to understand. Maybe that's something we listeners should do - click here to see what mustrad.org has done with Topic's Voice of the People series. Maybe we could annotate the Yazoo recordings in the same way. I'll do my best to put links in the list above if we have threads on any of the songs. -Joe Offer- |
11 Apr 10 - 09:02 PM (#2884514) Subject: Kentucky Mountain Music 7 CD Set - Dates From: GUEST,Peter J. Gossett I have a question on the Kentucky Mountain Music set, released on 7 CDs on the Yazoo label. Are there recording dates for the songs? |
11 Apr 10 - 10:45 PM (#2884545) Subject: RE: Kentucky Mountain Music 7 CD Set - Dates From: Stewie No. --Stewie. |
12 Apr 10 - 12:45 AM (#2884586) Subject: RE: Kentucky Mountain Music 7 CD Set - Dates From: Joe Offer Yeah, that is one problem with all of the Yazoo reissues. They are wonderful recordings, but very poorly documented. -Joe- |
12 Apr 10 - 06:02 AM (#2884689) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set - dates? From: GUEST,Hootenanny If you really want this information then get ahold of Tony Russell's "Country Music Records" a Discograhy 1921 - 1942. It is available in paperback. Everything you would want to know re dates, personel, recording locations etc. Hoot |
12 Apr 10 - 10:15 AM (#2884793) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set - dates? From: dick greenhaus Well, the set is still available. And it's still wonderful. $65 at CAMSCO. |
12 Apr 10 - 10:35 AM (#2884803) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set - dates? From: Stewie The link that I gave in my second message above in 2003 now links to some porn site. I have asked Joe to remove it. I wonder how many other links have been tampered with in this fashion? --Stewie. |
12 Apr 10 - 10:50 AM (#2884814) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set - dates? From: Fred McCormick Joe is right about the poor documentation of Yazoo releases, and he could have made a similar observation about the standards of their remastering. However, Topic, who crop up somewhere in this thread, can afford to subsidise their traditional releases from profits made elsewhere. Hence, with Topic, lavish booklets, quality discographical information and painstaking remastering are the order of the day. Yazoo, on the other hand, is owned by Shanacie, and while Shanacie is a large independent roots company which appears happy to support Yazoo's meagre sales, I doubt their business ethic would extend to the subsidisation of expensive booklets. So, while I accept and share Joe's reservation, the sheer quality of most Yazoo releases makes me extremely thankful that they're still issuing records - with or without high quality documentation. And if there's anyone out there who still hasn't got the Kentucky Mountain set, grab one quick. You have yet to discover how wonderful music can be. |
12 Apr 10 - 11:50 AM (#2884863) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set - dates? From: GUEST,Hootenanny From the very beginning when the label was setup and owned by Nick Perls and was almost entirely devoted to pre WW2 blues the Yazoo label or Belzona as it once was has never given discographical information. There is usually information on the performers where available and the notes usually were very informative on the chord structure, keys etc of the material issued which would be pickers probaby found very useful. For anyone seriously interested in discography most of this was available at the time in Dixon and Godrich's Blues & Gospel Records. As I pointed out above Tony Russell's book does the same job for old time country music. Personally I find the booklet enclosed in the Kentucky Box Set to be more than adequate and very nicely produced.I can think of hardly one issue on Yazoo from L-1001 onward that I would like to be without. Without this label the knowledge of we who appreciate pre-war blues and old time music would be very much poorer. In my Book Shanachie and Rich Nevins continue doing an excellent job Topic of course do an excellent job for British folk music but as the bulk of their material is from their own recordings and not from re-issues of commericial pre-war recordings, and as there is no readily available discography in the bookshops for ther material it is a completely different situation. Incidentally for those not aware of other labels issuing old time country music I would recommend the excellent Old Hat label out of Raleigh North Carolina which does an excellent job in every respect including lavish booklets. County out of Floyd, Virginia is another. I guess I should add that I have no commercial interest in any of these organisations, just an appreciation of what they have done to bring me a continuing enjoyment of some great music. Hoot |
12 Apr 10 - 02:51 PM (#2884964) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set - dates? From: dick greenhaus And for a mix of Old-Timey and classic country music (1925-1952 or so), Take a look at the British Archive of Country Music's list (all available from CAMSCO at $12.95 per). Other useful labels are Old Homestead, Document, Dust-To-Digital, and, of course, Smithsonian Folkways. CAMSCO carries 'em all. |
12 Apr 10 - 08:48 PM (#2885197) Subject: RE: Kentucky mountain music box set - dates? From: Stewie Joe has fixed the offending link (mentioned 3 messages above) so that it once again goes to Pat Conte's Secret Museum site albeit not to the review in question. Thanks Joe. --Stewie. |