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28 Mar 03 - 08:10 AM (#920396) Subject: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Nick I ran a poll earlier in the year for best Irish balladeer, Patsy Watchorn won. Vote for best Scottish Balladeer Nick |
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28 Mar 03 - 08:44 AM (#920418) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: curmudgeon Nick -- I tried to vote, but not having Outlook Express I was unable to do so. Please register my write in vote for Norman Kennedy. Thanks -- Tom |
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28 Mar 03 - 10:17 AM (#920512) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Nick You can just email me at oxbownick1@theballadeers.com with your votes. Tom...I've added your vote. Nick |
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28 Mar 03 - 11:03 AM (#920575) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,boab d Gordon Menzies with out a question. A really nice guy and a fantastic lyricist and medly maker second to none. Dylan |
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28 Mar 03 - 11:05 AM (#920577) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST andy m. stewart |
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29 Mar 03 - 05:37 PM (#921398) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Susanne (skw) Brian McNeill |
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29 Mar 03 - 06:08 PM (#921416) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Leadfingers I could be terribly pedantic and ask for a definition of 'Balladeer' but I ont and will simply vote for Moira who does Ballads SO well |
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29 Mar 03 - 06:46 PM (#921437) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: toadfrog That would be Jeannie Robertson, although I'm not sure she's still alive. |
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29 Mar 03 - 06:53 PM (#921440) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Susanne (skw) Sadly, she's not, toadfrog. She'd be over a hundred years old, I think. But it's a valid question: Do we include deceased balladeers? |
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30 Mar 03 - 02:01 AM (#921593) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Boab I know Eric Bogle is now an Aussie citizen, but he still carries the auld Lallans tongue o' Broughton, Peebles--shire around with him------ |
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30 Mar 03 - 02:27 AM (#921598) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Peter Kasin Including deceased: Jeannie Robertson Not including deceased: English language: Dick Gaughan. Gaelic: Christine Primrose, Catherine-Ann MacPhee. -Chanteyranger |
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30 Mar 03 - 05:36 AM (#921634) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Sloop Isla StClare when she's in her traditional mode; Rory MacEwan who dies young. Sloop |
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30 Mar 03 - 05:42 AM (#921637) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Sliding Down The Bannister At My Auntie's House Andy Stewart |
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30 Mar 03 - 05:49 AM (#921640) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Zany Mouse I would like to register my vote for Moira Craig. If you are including deceased then I would put in a second vote for Lizzie Higgins (I presume she is dead as I haven't heard anything of her for years). ZM |
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30 Mar 03 - 10:06 AM (#921732) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Shonagh Jock Duncan, Jeannie Robertson, Stanley Robertson, the list goes on..... |
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30 Mar 03 - 12:19 PM (#921827) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: paulo No longer doing folk - Barbara Dickson |
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30 Mar 03 - 01:23 PM (#921875) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Rara Avis Andy M Stewart |
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30 Mar 03 - 01:31 PM (#921878) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Art Thieme Jeannie Robertson |
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30 Mar 03 - 03:05 PM (#921938) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: mg Kenneth McKellar |
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30 Mar 03 - 03:26 PM (#921954) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Linda Kelly Robin Laing |
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30 Mar 03 - 04:00 PM (#921963) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Folkiedave The incomparable Jeannie Robertson and her daughter. Willie Scott also deceased. Dick Gaughan. Dave |
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30 Mar 03 - 04:34 PM (#921976) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Lighter Impossible to believe that no one's nominated the late Ewan MacColl. His politics aside, an amazing and influential collector, scholar, and performer. Just listen sometime. |
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30 Mar 03 - 11:21 PM (#922227) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Ed Miller Seamus |
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31 Mar 03 - 01:59 AM (#922258) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Little Robyn He may have sounded Scottish on some recordings but Ewan MacColl was born in Salford, Manchester (and his real name was Jimmy Miller). So does he still qualify? My vote goes to the Fisher family - all of them. |
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31 Mar 03 - 10:26 AM (#922519) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Roberto Little Robyn wrote that Ewan MacColl may have sounded Scottish on some recordings... I wouldn't have voted, but I can't accept such an opinion, so I vote for Ewan MacColl among the revival singers. And John Strachan and Jeannie Robertson among the traditional singers. Roberto |
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31 Mar 03 - 10:52 AM (#922554) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST My God, Kenneth MacKellar. I have not heard him in years..ah I loved Sweet Lass of Richmond Hill. Is any of his stuff available. However, I would vote fro Mary Jane Lammond..but she is Nova Scotian and not Scottish. |
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31 Mar 03 - 11:56 AM (#922623) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John MacKenzie Kenneth MacKellar's unaccompanied recording of "She moved through the Fair" is a joy to the ears, and the soul. Apart from that I too would vote for, 1 Archie Fisher,2 Michael Marra,3 Dick Gaughan. Giok PS Ewan McColl does not qualify, "The Dirty old Town" is not in Scotland. |
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31 Mar 03 - 12:19 PM (#922644) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Roberto Giok, as well as Little Robyn, maybe never heard recordings by Ewan MacColl of Scots traditional songs, such as the ones he made for Topic, among which The Jacobite Rebellion; for Folkways (the three with the Child Ballads; Scottish Popular Songs; Bothy Ballads of Scotland, etc); for Tradition (Classic Scots Ballads), for Argo (the 10 Lps of The Long Harvest, with many Scots ballads), and many, many more. I think maybe they know Ewan MacColl for his own compositions, or for recordings with English Folk Songs, for example The Manchester Angel, but not for recordings of Scots songs, because I just can't understand their scornful comments about Ewan MacColl as a Scots balladeer. For sure, Archie Fisher and Dick Gaughan wouldn't agree with them. Roberto |
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31 Mar 03 - 02:06 PM (#922757) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Little Robyn I have heard Ewan MacColl's Scottish recordings and really love them, but the fact that he was born in England, is not a Scot, that is what I am questioning. Can you be Scots by adoption? Does that make Eric Bogle Australian by adoption? And if so, does he still qualify? Or does simply being a singer of Scottish songs put you in the running for this award? |
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31 Mar 03 - 02:46 PM (#922788) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Malcolm Douglas His parents were Scottish. Let's not quibble too much. |
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01 Apr 03 - 02:35 AM (#923176) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Ed Miller Seamus |
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01 Apr 03 - 03:46 AM (#923199) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Micca Moira Craig |
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01 Apr 03 - 06:29 AM (#923292) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John MacKenzie I have heard Ewan McColl's Scottish stuff, I have his books, and I named my son Ewan in his honour, so I'm not exactly anti him, just his inclusion as a Scottish/Scots Balladeer. He was a very complex character, and I find his need to be accepted as a Scot under an assumed name, as opposed to using his own equally Scottish, birth name curious. It should be possible to establish ones credentials through ones talent, and he undoubtedly had plenty of that. Anyway I digress, for my way of thinking, the term Scots balladeer in this instance, should mean native born. Slainthe....Giok |
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01 Apr 03 - 08:53 AM (#923403) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: JedMarum Ed Miller |
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01 Apr 03 - 09:01 AM (#923414) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Fay Alyth McCormack aint bad. |
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01 Apr 03 - 09:38 AM (#923467) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,John Barden Ian Bruce - of course |
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01 Apr 03 - 11:17 AM (#923600) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Bill D *sigh*...another silly popularity poll, with no categories or distinctions. These are usually 'won' by the most famous or the current 'hot' recording artist, which tells you nothing. Does "balladeer" = "singer"? Putting Ed Miller and Andy Stewart and Jeanie Robertson in the same list is like comparing beer & wine & whisky and voting on "best alcoholic drink"...all can be good, but they are simply too different. (what, me opinionated?? nawwwwww) |
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01 Apr 03 - 05:05 PM (#923882) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Little Robyn OK, I vote for Jimmy Miller, singer of Scots songs. |
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01 Apr 03 - 05:24 PM (#923903) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Mary Humphreys Has no-one ever heard Ellen Mitchell sing? She has the most wonderful anc compelling version of 'The Mother's Malison' ( Clyde's Waters). And Moria Craig definitely deserves another mention. A hauntingly beautiful voice. I am torn between the two of them. |
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01 Apr 03 - 05:27 PM (#923907) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Ed Miller Seamus |
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01 Apr 03 - 11:42 PM (#924140) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Celtaddict For heaven's sake, listen to Seamus. Ed Miller. |
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01 Apr 03 - 11:45 PM (#924144) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Thanks, Jed and Celtaddict. Ed Miller Seamus |
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02 Apr 03 - 02:40 AM (#924252) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Peter Kasin Ok, he didn't get my #1 vote, but I like that rambling lowlander alot, myself. His rendition of "A Man's A Man For A' That" at a concert in California a few years ago was the best I ever heard. Ed Miller, that is. |
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02 Apr 03 - 04:28 AM (#924290) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John MacKenzie Who's Ed Miller? Giok |
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02 Apr 03 - 01:15 PM (#924616) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Never heard of him. Seamus |
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02 Apr 03 - 01:53 PM (#924642) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Abby Sale There are a huge number of superb Scottish ballad-singers (or do you just mean "singer?" I think 'balladeer' could mean either. The tradition is remarkable. Re MacColl, I strongly recommend a visit to the wonderful comments Gaughan makes in his "Links in the Chain section: Clicky. Actually, Gaughan (and you must see him at the top of this "best" topic) has wonderful comments about a bunch of "best singers" there. And he ought to know. You could add not only Jeanie and her daughter and son but many of her kith & kin - Higgins, Stewart. I was raised on MacColl and have over 60 of his records but hearing the 'gentle' singers like Enoch Kent, Gaughan, Norman Kennedy raised it to a new height for me. I find I have no favorite - I might prefer one singer on one song and another on another song. I think it's a big mistake to suggest a possible favorite. Six or ten votes for a Hall of Fame, maybe. A favorite is absurdly limiting. How about Gaelic singers? Bothy singers? The styles vary too much to restrict to a single person. But I voted anyway. For Ann Neilson (erstwhile of 'Stramash'). Based, sadly, on hearing only a single song, "The Banks o Skene" on one CD, Folk Songs of North-East Scotland. It's an utter knockout of a rendition (and a CD full of superb ballad singing.) I'd love to hear more of her. |
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02 Apr 03 - 01:57 PM (#924647) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST ed miller is a mate of Seamus'...LOL. |
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02 Apr 03 - 02:36 PM (#924685) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John MacKenzie No;really??!!!! Life's full of surprises. Giok {Who is he though?] |
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02 Apr 03 - 02:37 PM (#924689) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST http://www.songsofscotland.com/ |
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02 Apr 03 - 03:52 PM (#924726) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Sandy Mc Lean The question is very subjective but I would first vote for Flora MacNeil If a Scot by heritage rather than birth would qualify, my second choice would be John Allan Cameron. ( He even appeared on the Grand Ole Opry wearing a kilt. In any case one that was celtic long before celtic was cool) Slainte, Sandy |
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02 Apr 03 - 04:58 PM (#924764) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: JedMarum I like many of the others, but Ed Miller still gets my vote. |
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02 Apr 03 - 05:04 PM (#924772) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Bill D yeah, Jed... but if you DON'T vote for Ed, you have to face him down thar in Texas..*wink* I like most of the choices that I see listed....I just like Scots songs, but I still don't like 'best' lists...when the question is phrased differently, I may name names... |
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02 Apr 03 - 07:54 PM (#924891) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John Routledge Heather Heywood - an intensely involving singer who is also a lovely person. This alone should put her well up any "list" |
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02 Apr 03 - 07:55 PM (#924893) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST what about karen mathieson? |
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02 Apr 03 - 11:07 PM (#924977) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Changed my mind...Alex Beaton. Seamus |
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03 Apr 03 - 08:50 PM (#925717) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Julia Geordie MacIntyre |
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03 Apr 03 - 09:46 PM (#925738) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Celtaddict Seamus. I don't love you anymore. |
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03 Apr 03 - 10:54 PM (#925776) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy OK, Celtaddict. back to Ed Miller. Seamus |
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03 Apr 03 - 11:13 PM (#925786) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Joe Offer Well, I have to say I was very impressed by Janet Russell who proves you don't have to be old to sing ballads. -Joe Offer- |
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04 Apr 03 - 08:50 AM (#925991) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Marje I'd agree with the choices of Moira Craig and Ellen Mitchell, but I really need to have three votes, because Sylvia Barnes (a Scot now living in England) is simply stunning. Anyone else heard her? |
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04 Apr 03 - 09:39 AM (#926025) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: trayton I also agree with the choices of Moira Craig (but I would be accused of bias), Ellen Mitchell and I would add Ray Fisher but my vote would have to go to because Sylvia Barnes (a Scot who was living in England now returned to Scotland). Her singing at the Sussex singers weekend the other year was indeed stunning (she even made moira cry) |
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05 Apr 03 - 04:02 AM (#926575) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John MacKenzie Seamus is that an S.T.V. you've got there?? Giok |
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05 Apr 03 - 05:17 AM (#926597) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Michael in Swansea Isla St Clair *sigh* |
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05 Apr 03 - 05:22 PM (#926856) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Susanne (skw) If we're really talking traditional ballads I'd like to change my mind, too - Jean Redpath hasn't got a mention yet! |
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05 Apr 03 - 09:58 PM (#926990) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Sandy Mc Lean It says something about "the depth of the well" when so many different names are suggested. |
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06 Apr 03 - 04:54 AM (#927123) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Jock Morris Ian F. Benzie, formally of Old Blind Dogs. Karine Polwart of Malinky. Chris Miles Fiona and Anne of The Sangsters Brian McNeil Hell the list is too long! Scott |
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07 Apr 03 - 12:18 AM (#927618) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Murrey Though he left far too soon, Davy Steele,and definitely those crazy,fine singers Ray & Cilla Fisher and Ed Miller and Jack Beck and Karine Polwart too- murrey |
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08 Apr 03 - 07:33 AM (#928542) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Diva Heather Heywood,Cy Laurie, Gordeanna McCulloch............I could go on |
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09 Apr 03 - 04:35 AM (#929299) Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,noddy up and coming watch out for John Davidson of Tarneybackle. Doing some good stuff. |