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30 Mar 03 - 12:51 AM (#921568) Subject: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: GUEST,sadams@bitstream.net Hello friends, The late Patrick O'Brian's novels feature bits of song here and there. At the beginning of _Post Captain_, Jack Aubrey sings these verses to Stephen Maturin: Says Jack, There is very good news, there is peace both by land and by sea Great guns no more shall be used, for we all disbanded be. Says the Admiral, That's very bad news; says the captain, my heart will break; The lieutenant cries, What shall I do? For I know not what course for to take. Says the doctor, I'm a gentleman too, I'm a gentleman of the first rank; I will go to some country fair, and there I'll set up mountebank. Says the midshipman, I have no trade; I have got my trade for to choose, I will go to St. James's Park gate, and there I'll set black of shoes;* And there I will set all day, at everybody's call, And everyone that comes by, Do you want my nice shining balls? [*i.e., shine shoes for a living] Is this an actual song, or the product of Mr. O'Brian's boundless and well-researched inspiration? best wishes -- think peace, Sam Adams |
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30 Mar 03 - 01:46 AM (#921587) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: Joe Offer Hmmm. Couldn't find anything except this site which gives what appears to be the whole damn text of several O'Brian novels... -Joe Offer- |
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30 Mar 03 - 01:55 AM (#921590) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: Melani My guess is that O'Brian wrote it--it just has that sort of sound. |
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30 Mar 03 - 09:09 AM (#921697) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: Charley Noble Melani- I disagree. Usually O'Brian found some factual basis for his creative efforts. In this case it may have been a fragment that he expanded upon, an old broadside or one of Charles Dibdin's ditties. However, I haven't run across anything promising so far. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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30 Mar 03 - 10:21 AM (#921736) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: GUEST,Guest A copy on the Bodleian Ballads website (Distressed Men of War) has no tune direction. |
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30 Mar 03 - 11:16 AM (#921770) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: Gareth "Click 'Ere, for a link to that page inb the Bodleian Collection. No specific author is attributed. Significantly the publication date seems to coincide with the 'Peace of Amiens' (SP) Which also tallies with the book, The Post Captain, in which it appears in the Jack Aubry Chronicals. Its well worth reading, as a satire on the frauds perpetuated by the ships petty, standing, officers. Now some better talented 'Catter write or adapt a tune to this ?? Gareth |
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30 Mar 03 - 11:29 AM (#921780) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: GUEST,Guest Note that the song is in the Firth collection in the Bodleian, and Firth included the song in 'Naval Songs and Ballads', p. 228, 1908. [No tune direction or author]. That's probably where O'Brian found it. |
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30 Mar 03 - 12:11 PM (#921817) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: GUEST,JB I don't claim to be a "better talented 'Catter" than Gareth, but I did adapt a tune to these lyrics. The result is on my CD "Roast Beef of Old England". This tune is the one anachronism on the recording (I found contemporary melodies for all the other tune-less historical lyrics included. I modified "Over the Bounding Wave" for Distressed Men of War, since it fit so well and has the exact meter needed. I found the lyrics in Roy Palmer's "Oxford Book of Sea Songs". Jerry Bryant |
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30 Mar 03 - 01:20 PM (#921869) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: Charley Noble Good for you, Jerry! Maybe you could sing it to us at Mystic? Now where did I put your CD? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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30 Mar 03 - 02:02 PM (#921897) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: GUEST,Sam Adams Wow, thanks everyone, and Jerry, where can I get your CD? I love the last verse (thanks for the link, Gareth!): Says Jack, I will take to the road For I'd better do that than do worse; And every one that comes by, I'll cry, Damn you, deliver your purse. May peace be with us soon! best Sam |
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30 Mar 03 - 02:21 PM (#921912) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: Charley Noble This is what truly makes this website fun! Charley Noble |
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30 Mar 03 - 06:47 PM (#922061) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Sea Song in Patrick O'Brian From: GUEST,JB Sam, I urge you to buy Roast Beef of Old England at www.woodenshipsmusic.com, THE most complete on-line sea music store in the world. Happy listening! Jerry |
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15 Dec 10 - 07:08 PM (#3054359) Subject: Lyr Add: DISTRESSED MEN OF WAR From: Jim Dixon From Naval Songs and Ballads by Charles Harding Firth (London?: Navy Records Society, 1908), page 228: DISTRESSED MEN OF WAR. 1. Says Jack, 'There is very good news. There is peace both by land and by sea. Great guns no more shall be used, for we all disbanded must be.' 2. Says the admiral, 'That's very bad news.' Says the captain, 'My heart it will break.' The lieutenant cries, 'What shall I do? for I know not what course for to take.' 3. Says the purser, 'I'm a gentleman born. My coat is lined with gold, And my chest is full of the same, by cheating of sailors so bold.' 4. Says the doctor, 'I'm a gentleman too, I'm a gentleman of the first rank. I will go to some country fair, and there I'll set up mountebank.' 5. Says the steward, 'I'm sorry it's peace, for I love my ship as my life, And by cheating of honest Jack Tars I have plenty of shiners so bright.' 6. Says the carpenter, 'I have a chest, a chest of very good tools. I will go to some country fair and there I'll sell three-legged stools.' 7. Says the cook, 'I will go to that fair, and there I will sell all my fat.' Says Jack Tar, 'If I should meet you there, damn me, I'll pay you for that. 8. 'For don't you remember the time our topsail stuck close to the tack, And we all stuck fast in the sheet, for want of some of that fat?' 9. Says the midshipman, 'I have no trade. I have got my trade for to chuse. I will go to St. James Park gate, and there I'll set blacking of shoes. 10. 'And there I will set all the day, at everybody's call, And every one that comes by, "Do you want my nice shining balls?"' 11. Says Jack, 'I will take to the road, for I'd better do that than do worse. And every one that comes by, I'll cry, "Damn you, deliver your purse."' |
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