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30 Mar 03 - 08:46 PM (#922151) Subject: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: mg Yesterday I saw the premiere of a new video on salmon trolling in the US PNW..mostly out of Astoria OR and Ilwaco WA. Name is "Coming home was easy (going back was hard). It was very very well done. It costs $25 and I would highly recommend it for teachers, librarians, etc. PM or email me at mgarvey@pacifier.com and I'll say how to order it...or I'll post info. later. Ties in with a lot of songs. mg |
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30 Mar 03 - 10:37 PM (#922207) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Mooh Brings back memories of Charlie White (I think that was his name), an early pioneer of videotaping salmon strikes. The Great Lakes salmon fishermen were gaga over him 20 odd years ago, even though his research was saltwater. Mooh. |
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31 Mar 03 - 12:30 AM (#922243) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Metchosin Mooh, he's still around although he had a stroke last year that impaired his mobility somewhat, but his recovery has been pretty amazing. We see him on social occasions once in awhile and he's still fishin'. |
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31 Mar 03 - 09:06 AM (#922431) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Mooh Metchosin, Wow! We once loaded an old Ford Galaxy with dyed-in-the-wool trollers and took a road trip away from the water to a university lecture hall to watch a Charlie White documentary. Lots of fishermen changed their ways that evening and were as eager as ever to hit the water the next day. Wish him well from this stranger. Peace, Mooh. |
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31 Mar 03 - 11:47 AM (#922615) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Peg just FYI I believe it is "trawling" not "trolling" (in case someone wanted to look up more info on google, etc.) Sounds like a great video... |
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31 Mar 03 - 12:29 PM (#922654) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Mooh Peg, Not where I come from. Even the sportsfishing publications call it trolling. Many a related joke involving trollips... Btw, there's a music connection too, something to do with singing canons or rounds or something. Peace, Mooh. |
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31 Mar 03 - 01:02 PM (#922687) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: catspaw49 I'm waiting for the one on crappie fishing in the midwest. Nothing like it. Eight guys in a 12 foot aluminum jonboat tossing a number 8 over the side and ingesting 5 cans of Bud between dragging out the hook and putting on a new worm because the other is almost eaten, what's left of it being waterlogged. The sheer beauty of seeing 397 of these boats on a muddy, 1500 acre lake with the sun glinting off the oil slick gives me a lump in my throat. The crappie have plenty of cover as the bottom of these lakes is a rich mixture of primordial ooze consisting of motor oil, mud, beer cans, tackle boxes, outboard engines, waterlogged fishing vests, and the occasional fisherman. To smell it is to truly understand why fishing has such great appeal. What a video it will make! Spaw |
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31 Mar 03 - 03:12 PM (#922805) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Mooh LOL! |
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31 Mar 03 - 03:26 PM (#922821) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Metchosin On the wetcoast of Canada, trolling is usually a sports fishing term and is done with a single line with baited hook or lure. Trawling is a commercial fishing term where a long fishing line or set line is towed by a boat and supporting many smaller lines bearing baited hooks. It is also called a trawl, trawl line or trotline. |
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31 Mar 03 - 03:34 PM (#922824) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Stilly River Sage I did a lot of trolling in my youth when Dad (a die-hard fisherman who I kidded was born with a spoon in his mouth) took us fishing. And even though he KNEW PERFECTLY WELL that if he took any of us fishing that the kid was always going to catch the biggest fish, he STILL took us fishing! Now that's love! SRS |
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31 Mar 03 - 07:19 PM (#923011) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Peg oh, I had never learned the exact difference between the two; just figured the spelling varied according to area or custom...thanks for pointing it out!!!! peg |
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31 Mar 03 - 07:57 PM (#923027) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: GUEST,alinact This is how you troll for salmon. Allan |
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31 Mar 03 - 08:35 PM (#923039) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: GUEST,Anahootz sans biscuit Y'all need to get yer syntax in order... "Trolling" is both a sport and commercial enterprise. Sport trolling is performed with a single line/single lure (generally), whereas Commercial trolling is performed with multiple lines (6 in CA, OR, and WA, 6-8 in CAN, and 4 in AK) bearing multiple lures. "Trawling" is also both sport and commercial, but "sport" is an odd word to describe this activity. In trawling (or "dragging", the colloquial term), a net is dragged through the water behind a vessel, with the mouth of the net being held open by a rigid frame or by the swimming action of "doors", two large plates that pull perpendicular to the vessel when towed. For more on this and other types of fishing...plus a bunch of really cool other stuff...go Here 'Hootz |
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31 Mar 03 - 11:25 PM (#923133) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: catspaw49 Hellfire Hootz, that's crummy site! Ain't a damned thing about carp fishin' on little cricks or nothin'!! What a relaxing sport, going after the carp is. None of that sillyass fly casting crap with big waders.....Nope, all you need is a stick, some twine, some kinda' hook, a tire weight, a bobber, some real smelly stuff to put on the hook, and a pleasant bank of the crick to sleep on. Then when you want to move up into the big game fishin' world, you can fish for crappie like I described above. See, this stuff is real fishing as opposed to all of that fancy trawling/trolling stuff. And the eatin' is great too! You catch 25 ot 30 bluegill and you got yourself a small skillet full of boney meat! Yum-Yum!!!!! And there ain't nothin' in this world like carp cooked in bacon grease over a campfire. Lightly floured and cooked to a golden brown, just take it out of the skillet, throw it right into the fire, eat a Twinkie, and you ain't even got to wash a dish! Spaw |
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01 Apr 03 - 12:19 AM (#923149) Subject: RE: BS: Great video on salmon trolling in PNW From: Metchosin jeez anahootz, if you trawled on the wetcoast for anything, dragging a net behind your boat and tried to call it "sports fishing", I'm afraid you'd probably end up in jail. But then again there were some that thought using a CIL or James Island spinner might be great sport too. Spaw, myself I like mooching. Just bait your hook and sort of drift with the tide. Gives you a lot more time for contemplation. |