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04 Apr 03 - 06:06 PM (#926370) Subject: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST Martin Carthy? Paul McCartney? |
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04 Apr 03 - 06:07 PM (#926371) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Clinton Hammond Ummm... The English? |
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04 Apr 03 - 06:13 PM (#926377) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,Q Thomas Tallis |
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04 Apr 03 - 06:34 PM (#926389) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Noreen Edward Elgar |
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04 Apr 03 - 06:48 PM (#926395) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST The New Scorpion Band / The Mellstock Band - Both wonderful purveyors of the traditional 'village band' sound and music - and superb musicians and folklorists to their dredit. Beyond the pale. |
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04 Apr 03 - 06:52 PM (#926398) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Nemesis Belshazzar's Feast .. (?) |
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04 Apr 03 - 06:56 PM (#926400) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: nutty What |
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04 Apr 03 - 06:58 PM (#926401) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: nutty What exactly is meant by "English Music" Thomas Ravenscroft? Ralph Vaughan Williams? 'Pop' Maynard? A.L.Lloyd? |
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04 Apr 03 - 07:24 PM (#926414) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST Vera Lynn and Gracie Fields. |
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04 Apr 03 - 08:07 PM (#926442) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: toadfrog G.F. Handel Purcell Dowland |
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04 Apr 03 - 08:10 PM (#926443) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,Q William Byrd The Beetles Gilbert and Sullivan |
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04 Apr 03 - 08:26 PM (#926447) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Padre For English music composed in the 'classical music' style: William Byrd Thomas Tallis Henry Purcell Sir Arthur Sullivan Ralph Vaughan Williams Gustav Holst For English 'folk' music: A L Lloyd The Copper Family Eric Ilott Johnny Collins & Jim McGhean(sp?) Shanty Jack |
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04 Apr 03 - 09:03 PM (#926462) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,Jon Messers Anon and Trad. |
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05 Apr 03 - 02:35 AM (#926556) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: alanabit McGrath of Harlow - and he's Irish. Then again, our best general was Wellesly - and he was Irish too! |
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05 Apr 03 - 04:08 AM (#926578) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: John MacKenzie Shirley and Dolly Collins Giok |
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05 Apr 03 - 04:26 AM (#926583) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Allan Dennehy Hey, how come nobody has mentioned Richard Thomsen? |
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05 Apr 03 - 05:08 AM (#926593) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: treewind Clinton: one of the problems with English music that that most of the English have never heard of it. Onlookers at a trad music session in a pub here are as often as not inclined to assume it's Irish. Funny how many came up only with composers of art music - is that tongue in cheek (taking the question at face value and ignoring the 'folk ' context of Mudcat) or is it because English folk music is still so invisible (inaudible?) The first names that springs to mind for me is John Kirkpatrick, but as a representative with world wide visibility Martin Carthy is probably a pretty good candidate, as is Eliza. As for art music, I'll second that vote for Purcell. Anahata |
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05 Apr 03 - 05:46 AM (#926606) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Harry Basnett Oh dear..... |
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05 Apr 03 - 01:39 PM (#926746) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Peg Ian Anderson |
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05 Apr 03 - 01:51 PM (#926753) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,Eliza C Tanks treewind. John Spiers and Jon Boden, and Will Duke and Dan Quinn. cheers, e x |
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05 Apr 03 - 01:57 PM (#926756) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: KateG >>McGrath of Harlow - and he's Irish. Then again, our best general was Wellesly - and he was Irish too!<< That's OK, St. Patrick was an Englishman BG :) |
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05 Apr 03 - 02:21 PM (#926769) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: *daylia* The Spice Girls? (innocently batting eyelashes) daylia |
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05 Apr 03 - 03:16 PM (#926796) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: curmudgeon If we are talking about folk music, surely A. L. Lloyd must rise to the top of this list of luminaries. Let us also remember those fine English singers on this side of the ocean, Louis Killen, John Roberts, Tony Barrand and David Jones. -- Tom |
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05 Apr 03 - 03:41 PM (#926806) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Little Robyn The Watersons! (And Martin, of course). |
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05 Apr 03 - 06:01 PM (#926876) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: nutty JIM WILKINSON and singers of his ilk. Jim has been involved in folk music for more years than he can remember. Together with his wife Mu, he has run folk clubs and folk charity events. His whole family are accomplished folk singers and his love of folk music has been passed down through the generations so that he now has a great-granddaughter coming and singing at the folk club. No doubt there are many others up and down the country (Tony and Pearl O'Neill spring to mind) who have been totally committed to the music without thought of reward. These, to me, are the representatives that we should be applauding. |
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05 Apr 03 - 06:08 PM (#926883) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Benboww Kate St Patrick was a Welshman |
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05 Apr 03 - 06:32 PM (#926891) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: CraigS The Copper Family Boosey and Hawkes Eric Clapton Lord Lloyd Webber The Queen Lemmy Noel Coward |
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05 Apr 03 - 06:36 PM (#926892) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Padre St. Patrick was a Welshman born He came from decent people He built a church in Carlow town And on it put a steeple |
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05 Apr 03 - 07:23 PM (#926917) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Benjamin John Dowland |
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05 Apr 03 - 07:54 PM (#926935) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Strupag Vin Garbut Tony Rose (sadly no longer with us) Cyril Tawny June Tabor Alan Taylor Dave Goulder(Although in Scotland for 30 years he still wears a hankercheif with knots on it while listening to the cricket) Adge Cutler Jez Lowe Martin Carthy (and his wife & lassie) The Watersons The Copper Family The Kipper Family Richard Thompson Ralph MacTell Och I could go on but it's not a bad list for a Scotsman! |
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05 Apr 03 - 11:42 PM (#927043) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: ooh-aah Nb: Someone once asked Arthur Wellesley (note spelling)if he was Irish, since he was born in Ireland. His reply was that being born in a stable does not make one a horse! After he won the battle of Talavera, his brother was consulted regarding a good title, and plumped for Wellington, as the family had come from that area in Somerset. As for English music, one undersevedly overlooked English classical composer is Thomas Arne. 'The Morning' is too gorgeous for this world! |
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06 Apr 03 - 08:38 AM (#927174) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: breezy Robin Laing Eric Bogle Dick Gaughan Dougie Maclean and the Corrie who wrote 'Flower of Scotland' ?williamson? Not bad for a celt !!! in England but then they aint English but they write in English White bear tonight all participants welcome. Andy Irvine next Friday at St Albans and George Papavgeris writes very good English Folk songs 3rd CD now available |
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06 Apr 03 - 08:44 AM (#927176) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,The Burren Ranger Was it Wilde? ..or perhaps Shaw..who once wrote "The English dislike music intensely...but they like the noise it makes" Mmmmmm.... tbr |
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06 Apr 03 - 11:05 AM (#927236) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Santa Among the best current practitioners of traditional English song and music, and not mentioned yet, there are Jane and Amanda Threlfall (with Martin Ellison and Roger Edwards). |
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06 Apr 03 - 11:58 AM (#927260) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Herga Kitty Roy Harris Jeff Wesley Will Noble |
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06 Apr 03 - 12:09 PM (#927267) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Hester Traditional Folk: Anne Briggs -- Her material was predominantly English, although she did have a fondness for the occasional Irish song. Contemporary Folk: Nick Drake -- Who better conveyed the subtle pastoral beauty of northern England? Rock: Paul Weller -- Too English to be popular in North America, he beautifully combines lyrics of poignant social and personal observation with punk, soul, and folk music sounds. Cheers, Hester |
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06 Apr 03 - 12:18 PM (#927276) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Herga Kitty Brian Watson Damien Barber |
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06 Apr 03 - 01:53 PM (#927322) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Steve Benbows protege Bert Jansch, Martin Carthy, Steve Benbow, Cyril Tawney, Ashley Hutchings. |
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06 Apr 03 - 01:58 PM (#927326) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Herga Kitty Bert Jansch isn't English..... |
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06 Apr 03 - 08:35 PM (#927527) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Malcolm Douglas True; but he has sung mostly English material, and (like John Martyn) the residual Scottish accent doesn't appear in his singing. Mind you, I wouldn't consider either of them particularly representative of any style or genre apart from their own, rather idiosyncratic, ones. |
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06 Apr 03 - 08:47 PM (#927535) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST My other half Kevin Burrow - He won the Devon song Competition at Crediton Folk Festival this weekend, and when I last checked Devon was still in England! (Boy! was I proud!!) Whilst on the subject, let's not forget all those great singers and musicians who perpetuate the tradition by playing and singing English traditional Music around the country at various clubs, sessions, festivals and concerts throughout the year, they represent it to their best. Cheers, Lucy |
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07 Apr 03 - 02:21 AM (#927638) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,Barrie Day I agree wholeheartidly with you Lucy, without these unsung heroes the Folk Scene as we know it would not exist,what a catastrophy that would be. Incidently, WELL DONE Kev, your recognition is not before time and whilst we are at it lets not forget the rest of this family, Lucy, the girls and Kev's Dad, without them the scene would be missing out and such nice people to boot. Hope to see you all at either Miskin(I am going after all,surgery cancelled) or Cotswold Capers, What about that Corn Dolly workshop Lucy?!!!!!!! Baz |
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07 Apr 03 - 03:48 AM (#927672) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Peter Kasin For classical, Arthur Sullivan wasn't mentioned, so I'll mention him, just because I think any list of top English composers should include him. Though his "serius" music is generally considered not very consequential, his G&S works will probably endure for many more generations. Hard to imagine Gilbert's words with anyone else's music enduring as well. Chanteyranger |
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07 Apr 03 - 06:55 AM (#927721) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Dave Bryant Some more composers to join the "Classical" list: George Butterworth Percy Grainger Gerald Finzi Perhaps if we're referring to tradition English folk music we should think about the many people who helped to collect and collate the vast amount of material which we have - besides those who have already been mentioned as composers or performers: Sharp Child Karpeles Kennedy Gardner Hammond Baring-Gould Broadwood etc |
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07 Apr 03 - 09:50 AM (#927812) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST Barrie, Bummer about the op, though I am sure you'd rather be Miskining really! You are very kind to speak so highly of our clan! Tamsyn (eldest daughter, 12) sang her own composition at Singin' Spring the weekend before last, and though a tad progressive for my taste, she sang beautifully and was well received by a room full of adults. I have a lot to be proud of family wise at the moment, makes up for all the times I have had to sidle embarrassed out of concerts with stroppy children bored to death with keeping quiet. Whist feathering each others nests, my friend let me say what a fine voice you yourself and your good lady are blessed with - More a well sung than unsung hero! We shall see you at Miskin, and I'll chat to you there about workshopping! I have a magnetic mat for you to sit on for the weekend! Cheers, Lucy |
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07 Apr 03 - 12:06 PM (#927899) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Peg I like Hester's choices!!! My band is performing an Anne Briggs song with me singing the lead (Go Your Way). I'd like to hear more of her, beautiful stuff. Nick Drake, now there's someone who left us too soon...thanks to Volkswagen for giving his post-humous record sales a boost... And Paul Weller! A college friend turned me on to The Jam; then I even liked The Style Council! I saw him in concert about five years ago; very 70s retro and soulful rock souding; he will always be a great performer! |
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07 Apr 03 - 12:19 PM (#927910) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,JohnB In my immediate area of Canada, unfortunately the blame rests on myself, my wife and a friend of ours. JohnB |
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07 Apr 03 - 12:37 PM (#927933) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,James Folk....Frankie Armstrong, Martin Carthy, The Watersons,Eliza Carthy, June Tabor, Steeleye Span, Fairport, Ashley Hutchins, Richard Thompson, Katherine Tickell, Shirley Collins, Maddy Prior,Dave Swarbrick,Nick Drake , Pentangle. Probably lots that have not come instantly to mind. Classica.. Tallis, Purcell, Downland, Elgar, Vaughn-Williams. Pop..Vera Lynn, Gracie Fields, Petula Clarke, Sandy Denny(Folk as well). Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull, Dave Cousins of Strawbs, Pink Flyod,The Beatles,Kate Bush,Richard Thompson.Again, there are so many who could be named. |
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07 Apr 03 - 12:41 PM (#927936) Subject: RE: Paul Weller & Canadian "English" music From: Hester Peg wrote: >>>And Paul Weller! A college friend turned me on to The Jam; then I even liked The Style Council! I saw him in concert about five years ago; very 70s retro and soulful rock souding; he will always be a great performer!<<< Hi, Peg: I saw Paul Weller perform here just a couple months ago, and he is in absolutely top form! If you get a chance to see him again, it would be well worth it. He's currently performing material from his entire career, and he "borrowed" the main half of Ocean Colour Scene for his back-up band. They absolutely rocked the house for a full 2 1/2 hr set. I was completely infatuated with Paul Weller as a teenager in the late 70s, and now I've fallen for him again. Strange how sexy silver hair looks to me these days. If you don't get a chance to see him in concert, the new album "Illumination" is brilliant, with some very folky/pastoral pieces. And John wrote: >>>In my immediate area of Canada, unfortunately the blame [for English music] rests on myself, my wife and a friend of ours.<<< Hi, John: Do you play in the Toronto area? One of my favourite local English folkies (with Irish roots as well) is October Browne . Cheers Hester [Yowza: the wind's so strong today it's making the house creak like I've got burglers or ghosts in the attic!] |
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07 Apr 03 - 01:00 PM (#927952) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: George Papavgeris Oh, boy, what a question...the dreaded "List Mania" at work. It doesn't make for good TV, why should it make good reading or conversation subject? And I did read through the thread, so what does that make me... But two names are conspicuous by their absence, to my taste: DAVE WEBBER & ANNI FENTIMAN. Why? Let's see.. - representing the West and North East of England as they do, they provide the widest coverage both in terms of material and accents - they represent English music not only in the UK, but internationally; they are pretty well known in the US and Canada, for example - they show a fine sensitivity to traditional material and are both active in promoting traditional English music (for example through their work with Living Tradition) - Dave has penned some wonderful songs that are widely sung in folk clubs, and has been in the (un)enviable position of not being able to register for copyright his "'Obby 'Oss" May song because it was deemed "traditional" by the know-alls. And he didn't have to be dead first, even! Oh, and they're bloody great of course! PS: Thanks Breezy, I don't think England is ready to hand over stewardship of its music to the cradle of civilisation yet, though ;-> |
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07 Apr 03 - 01:36 PM (#927984) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Peg thanks for the info on Paul, Hester! He was in Boston not long agao in fact and I really wish I'd made the effort to see the show. I will definitely get that CD... I saw Dave Webber and Annie Fentiman at a house concert a few months ago. They were great, although I admit I do get sick of hearing their songs too often...when they were touring locally the local Celtic music show just played a couple of their songs to death until I wanted to scream (mainly that one about "carve the music of the wind into the wood")...theirs is music to be enjoyed for its uniqueness, and yet judging from the people at the house concert, everyone has listened to is all often enough that they know it all by heart...which makes me think they compose these "new traditional" songs for their "sing-along" appeal, which rubs me the wrong way, somehow...like penning a sure-fire top 40 tune...maybe it's just me. I'd like to hear them do more actual traditional music... |
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07 Apr 03 - 06:22 PM (#928163) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: greg stephens Ray Davies of the Kinks and Vaughan Williams for "known author "music. the people of England for the folk. |
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07 Apr 03 - 06:24 PM (#928165) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: greg stephens I'd like to have put John Dowland in, but I dont believe he was English. |
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07 Apr 03 - 07:20 PM (#928201) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Malcolm Douglas Accounts differ; Dowland's early years are not well documented. I think he's generally considered now to have been born in London or Westminster, though Grattan Flood claimed that he was Irish (Grattan Flood also claimed that Sumer is Icumen In and God Save the King were Irish tunes; he is a bit of an embarrassment to serious scholars of Irish music), and that claim seems to have seeped into "received wisdom" in some cases. |
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08 Apr 03 - 02:42 AM (#928453) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: alanabit Ray Davies - there's an interesting choice from an old folker. Yet I can hardly think of anyone who is more archetypally English or does such excellent character sketches of modern English people. |
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08 Apr 03 - 03:28 AM (#928469) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: greg stephens Not so much of the "old" thank you, alanabit! |
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08 Apr 03 - 04:46 AM (#928490) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: George Papavgeris Surely, place of birth or passport is no hindrance to representing the music of country X...Martyn W-R does a fair job of representing Aussie music, for example, and so does Eric B, though Sussex- and Scotland-born respectively. So I'd say let Dowland's nomination stand, wherever his mum happened to be when she gave birth. Otherwise we're but a small step from bigotry and pigeonholing |
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08 Apr 03 - 06:05 AM (#928524) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,Bystander Almost every singer/muso on the folk scene seems to have been nominated on this thread but if you asked the 'man in the street' I doubt if more than one in a thousand would have heard of any of them. Out of interest, who would the 'man in the street' nominate? If you are at work now, ask the persons next to you and let us know. |
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08 Apr 03 - 07:21 AM (#928537) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,James The Guy next to me says Martin Carthy. |
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08 Apr 03 - 08:46 AM (#928578) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Snuffy If the 'man in the street' was asked to name a folk song, it would probably be from the Dubliners, or else something he learned in primary school (from the C#, RVW etc collections) |
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08 Apr 03 - 09:16 AM (#928594) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,Guest: English Jon out of Coma I thought it was me. ;) Anyway, at least my computer seems to work now. Cheers EJ |
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08 Apr 03 - 10:32 AM (#928654) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST Snuffy, the thread says 'Who best represents English Music', nothing about folk songs. Also is it English music today or English music two hundred years ago, Purcell or Fat Boy Slim? |
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08 Apr 03 - 12:19 PM (#928734) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,JohnB Hi Hester, we are not too far from the big TO, basically Orangeville area. We don't get out too much, mostly small local stuff. Brampton FF, Millrace in Cambridge. The Morris things in Toronto. The group is called Triangl. There usd to be 8 of us in a group called Octamerous, we got around a bit more in our 8 years together. Say hi if we meet, there again how will we know each other. I have a beard, the two ladies don't. JohnB |
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27 Feb 07 - 01:46 PM (#1980984) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: AJR Sting singing Dowland song (the instrumental version on lute is Earl of Essex galliard (I thnk) was a pleasant surprise I have herd Peter Pears singing it and Alfred Deller) |
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27 Feb 07 - 02:02 PM (#1980995) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Lucius Go to the list that has "Rolling Stone's Top 100 Guitarists of all Time" and pick out the ones that sound English. That, or narrow your term, "English music" down a bit. |
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27 Feb 07 - 02:08 PM (#1980999) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Big Al Whittle Where are we going to send the lucky winner to represent us. If this liasion position is with Northern Ireland - Margaret Thatcher has a lot of experience. |
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27 Feb 07 - 03:16 PM (#1981049) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Andy Jackson Well I read all the way through and have to add a couple of names: Tom and Barbara Brown When they perform you know why we love the songs. Andy |
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27 Feb 07 - 05:22 PM (#1981170) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST pip and merry |
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28 Feb 07 - 02:00 AM (#1981481) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Mo the caller The best thing about English music is its variety. Strawhead / Alistair Anderson / Johny Collins Byrd / Handel (yes, I know, but thats the thing really, we're a mongrel race) |
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28 Feb 07 - 07:32 AM (#1981624) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST, Grimmy Handel (yes, I know, but thats the thing really, we're a mongrel race) You don't need to be English to 'represent English music'. Max Bruch's Scottish Fantasy is more 'scottish' than any scots composer managed. Some of the most quintessentially 'english' films ever made were directed by Emeric Pressburger. |
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28 Feb 07 - 08:20 AM (#1981665) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Dave Hanson I notice the name Richard Thompson keeps popping up, as good as he is it's all pan American. eric |
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28 Feb 07 - 08:26 AM (#1981677) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Lizzie Cornish Show of Hands! :0) :0) :0) Seth Lakeman! And Ashley Hutchings! Fairport Convention Coope Boyes & Simpson Martin Carthy Bob Copper Norma Waterson Eliza Carthy Jim Causley Jim Moray Jackie Oates Mike Waterson Witches of Elswick Demon Barbers Peter Bellamy Tim Van Eyken Mawkin John Kirkpatrick And more than a few on here too! Albion Heart: http://www.myspace.com/samandlizzie |
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28 Feb 07 - 08:47 AM (#1981691) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Lizzie Cornish B***** forgot to blue clicky thingy! :0) Albion Heart |
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28 Feb 07 - 12:16 PM (#1981906) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: The Sandman John Cage. |
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28 Feb 07 - 12:46 PM (#1981931) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST Anyone apart from the english it seems |
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28 Feb 07 - 12:52 PM (#1981937) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST Martin Carthy gets my vote. He's got more LPs and CDs out than anyone else on the previous lists. Also his involvement with other group projects is what most performers would accomplish in 2 or 3 lifetimes. |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:54 PM (#1982893) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,ib48 Definately Ray Davies,the kinks |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:04 PM (#1982905) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: greg stephens Vaughan Williams, Holst, Elgar, Delius. The quintessential English composers of the 20th century, not an English surname in sight! Highly mongrel country. |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:12 PM (#1982913) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST,Bardan For a horrible moment I thought someone had written Rolf Harris, but it turned out to be Roy. Thank God! |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:16 PM (#1982917) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: The Sandman harry cox. |
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02 Mar 07 - 07:20 AM (#1983727) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST Rambling Sid Rumpo |
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02 Mar 07 - 08:33 AM (#1983774) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: GUEST DJs |
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03 Mar 07 - 08:02 AM (#1984791) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Tim theTwangler PS: Thanks Breezy, I don't think England is ready to hand over stewardship of its music to the cradle of civilisation yet, though ;-> As you say George we Brits are too proud to let the Africans take it over just yet. I suppose you would have to define Britishness wouldnt you ? And that is different to every man and his dog on the planet. I would Say that with "Freinds like these" and songs as good as that We identify a little of what we would hope Britishness is in the things we admire and take it for ourselves. LIke the Empire for Example. George I will give the cradle of European Civilisation. LOL |
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04 Mar 07 - 05:10 AM (#1985577) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Teribus alanabit - 05 Apr 03 - 02:35 AM "McGrath of Harlow - and he's Irish. Then again, our best general was Wellesly - and he was Irish too!" When someone mentioned his Irish nationality to Wellington, he came out with the statement, "Just because a man is born in a stable, it does not make him a horse". |
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04 Mar 07 - 05:24 AM (#1985583) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: Big Al Whittle Of course the answer is in the title - The Who! Quintessentially English. turn it up to 11! |
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04 Mar 07 - 05:36 AM (#1985588) Subject: RE: Who best represents English music? From: autolycus Repetition,teribus. This thread seems to me now to have answered the question, on the assumptions that:- a) the question can correctly be answered by lots of names - there's nothing in the question that means the answer has to be just one, and b) the question could have been "Whose music most proclaims itself to be English?" and the questioner's meaning would be the same. I'd repeat the vote for Anon. and Trad. on the grounds that they are least likely to have had non-English influences. (Insofar,that is. as uninfluenced English is a coherent,sensible concept. So 'least likely' is a vital phrase.) [I wonder where the original qhestioner be,and if they be alright] Ivor |