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23 Apr 03 - 06:30 AM (#938342) Subject: All the Best for St George,s Day From: Pied Piper Just to remind every one that today is St George's day. For me this is a time to celebrate English culture, which despite the constant propaganda from the media is as unique and powerful as any body else's. I will be wearing traditional English dress; trousers a shirt a jacket, shoes and socks. Remember that the Colonials in the new world still ware English native dress although they probable don't know it. And of cause we celebrate the English Language, which has the largest vocabulary of any language that has ever existed, and will soon unite the World in common speech. Whan that Aprille with his shoures sote The droghte of Marche hath perced to the rote And bathed every veyne in swich licour Of which virtu engendred is the flour All the best PP |
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23 Apr 03 - 06:39 AM (#938345) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: GUEST,Steve I will be celebrating too. We will be parading in the wilds of Ledbury, Herefordshire for their inaugral St George's Day parade/celebrations with Morris Dancing, Dragon parade to the Church, and session afterwards in the Talbot. It won't be without controversy though - we have been invited to attend & we dance Cotswold, but I don't think Silurian will be there and it's their home town. If anyone's in the area come along (end of plug) Cry God for Harry, England and St George. Steve |
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23 Apr 03 - 06:55 AM (#938350) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: The Shambles The folowing from Ric on The Action for Music Yahoo email list. I've spent most of the weekend at Gosport and played in sessions without a problem, most of them in premises with an entertainment licence although we had 2 mega pub sessions without any hassle, both advertised in the programme.Perhaps the fact that the bloke who organises it is also on the town council was an influence. A friend did approach a local pub before the festival started about having a session on the premises, the licencee was keen but when musicians turned up they were told the "two in a bar" rule applied. The Victory Morris dance programme 2003 contains the following message; Licentious Acts and Other Pleasures The demonstration of Morris you see before you is provide by Victory Morris, a licenced member of the Morris Re-enactment Society, The RING. The RING was established shortly after the final phasing out of the Morris from English tradition in 2003 ( following the Music Licence Act 2003 which made it impossible to perform in any venue without a licence ).The following year, 2004,the term "English" was also phased out and the area became Europe (Nord), "Tradition" now officially dates from 1957 and is primarily based around Elvis Presley and Les Beatles. The RING was convened to provide examples of Morris Dancing to the general public, to demonstrate the dangers inherent in allowing a native culture or tradition to survive unregulated. Points To Note in this Demonstation 1, The participants imbibe alcohol: This does not meet with Health and Safety guidelines laid down by European statutes relating to consumpion of liquids in vessels measured in archaic units of pints and quarts. 2, The dancers inbibe alcohol and wave heavy wooden sticks around, thus endangering themselves and hapless members of the public.This contravenes European legislation regarding the conservancy of timber and also breaks length-of-stick guidelines, the length being in illegal feet and inches rather than the Euro-metre. 3, The dancers inbibe alcohol, wave heavy sticks around and then sing.They do not sing songs recommended in the European Guidelines Volume 3 appendices viii ( Ode to Joy, Marseillaise or Deutscheland. Deutscheland Uber Alles ), but instead insist on Frog-bashing This contravenes the Amphibians Conservation Act 2002. 4, The dancers are enjoying themselves. Note: These dancers are licenced Re-enactors NOT real Morris- men ( as Morris dancing is now illegal) They will not therefore, under any circumstances, under threat of losing their entertainment licence, dance " Wreck of the Victory ", as this dance is still banned under the Geneva Convention as being too much fun. Other Re-enactment groups of interest are: "The Happy Birthday Band" , The Society of Spontanious Song. "You Ain't Singing Anymore" , The Society of Football Crowd Re- enactments. excerpt from FOLK ENGLAND: An alternative Universe |
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23 Apr 03 - 07:22 AM (#938355) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: GUEST,Rich A Steve, which team do you dance with? Silurian arn't what they used to be, they seem to have lost a lot of the agression they showed towards Cotswold. |
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23 Apr 03 - 07:28 AM (#938357) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Alexis I am looking forward to celebrating St George's Day (albeit a few days later) at the Horwich St George's Day Parade, with Wrigley Head Any other 'catters going to be there ? Alex |
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23 Apr 03 - 07:30 AM (#938358) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Eric the Viking Yes-have a good day. Me and my family all know it's St George's day, and on Sunday both my kids will be marching with their Scout groups. I think it is important not to loose sight of our culture and heritage. It should be an English national day, with Morris and other celebrations.We have as much to be proud of as any other cultural group, and the impact of "Englishness" has been felt throughout the world.(Though there are many things for which we should also recognise demonstrated our worst traits both now and in the past)We celebrate much of other cultures, we should celebrate our own. Though not religious, it will be a chance for our kids to re-affirm their Scout/cub promise etc. Huzzah for Saint George. |
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23 Apr 03 - 08:14 AM (#938374) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: GUEST,Steve Rich, I dance with Lassington Oak Morris Men - we're based just outside of Gloucester. I think we were invited as our Foreman lives in Ledbury and got talking to the Landlord of the Talbot. I thought it was odd that no-one considered approaching Silurian though (maybe they will next year?), although I'm not knocking it as it promises to be a good do! Steve |
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23 Apr 03 - 08:25 AM (#938383) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Harry Basnett Happy St. George's Day, PP. And smale foweles maken melodye, That slepen al the nyght with open ye (So priketh hem nature in hir corages), Than longen folk to goon on pilgramages. All the best...........Harry. |
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23 Apr 03 - 08:28 AM (#938384) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: GUEST,Rich A Steve, saw you dancing at Cheltenham FF. (Leather waistcoats wasn't it?) I've danced round Ledbury several times, some good pubs and a small brewery if I remember. Rich |
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23 Apr 03 - 09:02 AM (#938406) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: GUEST Rich Yep, that was us - I'm looking forward to it by all accounts the Landlord is very up for it, and the location is great. You mentioned that you've danced around Ledbury - what side's that with? |
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23 Apr 03 - 09:14 AM (#938420) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Geoff the Duck We will be singing and playing at the George & Dragon, West Haddlesey (site of last year's Yorkshire Gathering) this evening. We might be killing the odd Old Speckled Hen (you can't get fresh dragons around here these days)! Quack! GtD. |
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23 Apr 03 - 09:38 AM (#938437) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: GUEST,Rich A Danced there with the Jockey Morris men a few times. We started going when Dave Jones was still around. |
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23 Apr 03 - 09:40 AM (#938440) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: alanww I'll be at a feast of tradition on St George's Day, at the George Hotel, Brailes (about 6 miles to the west of Banbury): at 7.30 pm morris dancing outside St Georges Church by the Adderbury Village and Ilmington Morris Men, at 9 pm ish the Shakespeare Mummers doing a St George and Dragons Play in the pub and then a music and singing session - finishing late! And the full range of Hook Norton beers, including the bitter at 1 guinea (£1.05) a pint! See you there? "Come fill up your glasses and let us be merry ...!" Alan |
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23 Apr 03 - 10:13 AM (#938475) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: treewind The John of Gaunt, Sutton (near Biggleswade, Bedfordshire) Bedford morris men will be there, possibly others, and an English music session in the pub is inevitable. Anahata |
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23 Apr 03 - 10:41 AM (#938508) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Snuffy Lower Brailes, Warwickshire 6.30 St George's Day evensong at St George's church 7.30 Ilmington and Adderbury Morris men dance at the lychgate 8.00 Ilmington and Adderbury Morris men dance outside the George Hotel Dusk Move inside for song & music session including: 9.30 (approx) Shakespeare Mummers perform St George and the Dragons play. Hook Norton Mild and Bitter at a guinea (21/-) a pint |
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23 Apr 03 - 11:04 AM (#938524) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Pied Piper Nice to see people celibrating, have a Pint of Old Hooky for me. All the best PP |
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23 Apr 03 - 11:41 AM (#938548) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Julie B A number of dance sides meeting, as every St Georges Day, at the Boat Inn at Stoke Bruerne (Northants) tonight. Dancing usually starts at about 7.30 ish in the island in the middle of the canal, and is followed by a music session in the pub. Julie B |
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23 Apr 03 - 10:26 PM (#938950) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: alanww Had an absolutely magic time at The George at Brailes, in the deep south of Warwickshire:- watching traditional English morris dancing, performing a traditional English mummers play, playing traditional English tunes, singing traditional English songs ... and drinking lots of traditional English beer! Can life be better? I doubt it! "And did those feet in ancient times, walk upon England's mountains green ...!" Alan |
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23 Apr 03 - 11:26 PM (#938976) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Bob Bolton G'day, Nice to see you lads celebrating an Iranian saint (St. George ... Bishop of Smyrna (Izmir), wasn't he? Always nice to see a bit of multiculturalism. Regard(les)s, Bob Bolton |
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24 Apr 03 - 01:10 AM (#939020) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: ooh-aah Tell us something we don't know, Bob! If the Irish can have a Welshman as their patron saint, we can go one better - probably we rack even more PC brownie points, as he was a person of colour! And I'm not even a Christian, come to think of it. But Georgie is OURS! |
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24 Apr 03 - 02:17 AM (#939039) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Wilfried Schaum And don`t forget: World Book Day, because Shakespeare and Cervantes died on St Georges Day. And: Day of German Beer. On April 23, 1516 a Bavarian law concerning the purity of beer was decreed. It is still valid in entire Germany. Cherrs, to St George and your very health! Wilfried |
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24 Apr 03 - 02:21 AM (#939040) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Wilfried Schaum Bob - Iranian? Smyrna (an old Ionian colony, first of the assumed 7 birth places of old Homer) is sited in Asia Minor, now settled by the Turk. Wilfried |
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24 Apr 03 - 02:46 AM (#939045) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: Gurney To all you Jingoesque types, I recommend a book: 'The Whole Earth is The Tomb of English People'(in some lists just the The Tomb of English People) by Duncan Balmer, published by Third Option Ltd, Takapuna, Auckland, New Zealand. It gives documentation of the importance of the British culture and its influence on the world we live in. |
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24 Apr 03 - 06:07 AM (#939089) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: George Papavgeris Couldn't have been Iranian, BB, the term did not even exist in 303; neither was he a Turk, as the Turks only arrived in the 5th and 6th centuries AD; Ionian perhaps, or even Roman, mixed probably with local blood, Phoenician or Persian. But it doesn't matter, does it? He is a symbol, it is not what he was, but what he represents for the English that matters. And though not English myself, I celebrate him with the English AS WELL AS within my own culture (I am named after him after all). I just wish the English would do more to celebrate him themselves |
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24 Apr 03 - 07:19 AM (#939108) Subject: RE: All the Best for St Georges Day From: IanC We're doing a St George + 1 concert tonite for the British Legion. They couldn't get the hall last night 'cause it was being hired for an art class. -) Enfors we us with all our might |