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Barbara Allen in '30's Film

12 May 03 - 10:37 PM (#951467)
Subject: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Judy Cook

Hi all,

I just got an email with this question. I'm stumped. Anyone know?Do you know what film (from the 1930s?) the song Barbara Ellen was featured in?

Judy


12 May 03 - 11:16 PM (#951488)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: masato sakurai

In the film Scrooge (1951), "Barbara Allen" is "played as background music during film and sung by guests at Fred's Christmas party".

~Masato


12 May 03 - 11:26 PM (#951498)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Phil Cooper

I remember that, too. It feature's prominently in several scenes as I recall.


13 May 03 - 12:07 AM (#951513)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Art Thieme

I keep thinking it is the great British romance story called I Know Where I'm Going with Roger Livesay and Wendy Hiller----but the more I think of it, the song that was done a few times in that fine film was the title song, "I Know Where I'm Going".

Art


13 May 03 - 01:18 AM (#951538)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Cluin

I thought for a minute that I had heard it in an old Veronica Lake movie where she and an older relative were ghosts of witches burned at the stake, but I just remembered that the song used in that one was Three Jolly Coachmen.

Brain fart.

Anyways, that Veronica Lake was pretty hot, wasn't she?    ;)


13 May 03 - 10:44 AM (#951758)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Steve Parkes

And don't forget Porky Pig sang it (eventually!) in Robin Hood Daffy.

Steve


13 May 03 - 01:25 PM (#951864)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Rick Fielding

Hi Judy. I think you'll find that many people FEEL that "A CHRISTMAS CAROL" with Alistair Sim is older than it actually was (there were two earlier versions) but I'll bet that's the version they're looking for. (Barbra Allan and young Jemmy Glenn)

Cheers

Rick


13 May 03 - 01:57 PM (#951882)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Judy Cook

Thanks, one & all!
--Judy


13 May 03 - 03:52 PM (#951973)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Phil Cooper

Judy,

    Check out the 30's version of David Copperfield (with WC Fields as Wilkins Macawber). There's a scene where the guy playing Steerforth is entertaining Copperfield's friends by singing a verse of the Outlandish Knight. At least I caught the phrase father's stable where there stand thirty and three. Of course that's propethic in the plot.


13 May 03 - 11:37 PM (#952223)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Art Thieme

And in the film JAWS the grizzzled shark hunter sings a verse or two of "Spanish Ladies".---------------but no B.A.

Hi Judy ------- & Dennis too.

Art


14 May 03 - 06:11 AM (#952341)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: masato sakurai

I've not seen the movie, but "Barbara Allen" is featured in The Bachelor (1999) too. Of course, let's not forget Songcatcher.

~Masato


14 May 03 - 08:58 AM (#952429)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Coyote Breath

And almost inaudible renditions of 'Old Joe Clark' and 'Hop High Ladies' in Henry Fonda's 'Grapes of Wrath' (at the Saturday night dance in the migrant camp) and I think there were some others but possible BF here too.

CB


14 May 03 - 09:03 AM (#952433)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Fiolar

I'm nearly sure that a version of Barbara Allen was sung in the 1959 film "The Buccaneer" starring Charlton Heston and Yul Brynner.


14 May 03 - 05:08 PM (#952710)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Cool Beans

AS long as we're doing the Folk Songs in Movies thing, maybe we could rename the thread, or start anew.
At any rate, Humphrey Bogart sings "The Bold Fisherman" in "The African Queen." "There was a bold fisherman and he sailed off to Pimlico...singing Twinky Doodle Dum..." That one. Pimlico, eh? He must have been going to the Preakness.


14 May 03 - 05:13 PM (#952714)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: GUEST

going down that road feeling bad was also in grapes of wrath...


14 May 03 - 05:16 PM (#952718)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Rick Fielding

Well it's not a folk song, but I LOVED Kirk singing "Got a whale of a tale to tell you...." in 20000 Leagues under the sea.

Rick


14 May 03 - 05:25 PM (#952725)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Cool Beans

So, who's the better singer, Kirk Douglas or Humphrey Bogart?


15 May 03 - 04:05 AM (#952936)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Roger the Skiffler

Rick, did he really play that banjo (Kirk) or was he dubbed? (Likewise Nat Cole and Stubby Kaye in Cat Ballou)
You know I like to know!!!!

RtS


15 May 03 - 09:35 AM (#953056)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: GUEST,Mr Red

Nat playing banjo? I seem to remember his fingers flew in time to the music but failed to flail occasionally so I would have to say NO. Stubby ? sorry wasn't watching both banjos (one is enough - please) but I would have to give him a definite maybe.

Didn't the Everley Brothers do a very true version of Barbara Ellen too?


15 May 03 - 09:58 AM (#953077)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Rick Fielding

Nope, none of 'em played the banjo, however.....

Jerry Van Dyke and George Seagel DO!

Was "A Capital Ship" from a movie?

Rick


15 May 03 - 02:58 PM (#953258)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: GUEST,Randall

> Jerry Van Dyke and George Seagel DO!

What about Paul Newman? (I'm thinking of his version "Plastic Jesus" from Cool Hand Luke.)


15 May 03 - 09:32 PM (#953482)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Cluin

John Lithgow and Steve Martin play pretty good banjo too.

And a better singer than either Kirk Douglas or Humphrey Bogart was Robert Mitchum (even though it wasn't him, but Tennessee Ernie singing the theme song from "River of No Return").


16 May 03 - 01:59 AM (#953573)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Coyote Breath

Lithgow and Martin - proof that you NEED a sense of humor to play the banjo.

CB


16 May 03 - 03:20 AM (#953604)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Roger the Skiffler

Thanks, Rick, I don't think their fretting fingers moved much, so I guessed that!
I saw George Segal on a chat show play his banjo, seemed pretty good.
My dear old mother went to her grave convinced Kay Kendall really played the trumpet in Genevieve! More innocent times, I guess!

RtS


16 May 03 - 08:24 PM (#954122)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: GUEST,dave

i remember it in the alistair sim xmas carol film and very nice it was too.great film by the way,the best adaptation of that book.
god bless us all,said tiny tim!


17 May 03 - 02:08 PM (#954457)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Harry Basnett

Spencer Tracy sings 'Little Fishes' in 'Captains Courageous' and don't forget A.L.Lloyd as the shantyman in 'Moby Dick'.

All the best.........Harry.


17 May 03 - 07:54 PM (#954618)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: GUEST,M'Grath of Altcar

I once spotted Martin Carthy in an early 60's black and white detective thriller. ( It may have been The Mystery's of Edgar Wallace. ) He's definitely in the credits does anybody know?


18 May 03 - 11:34 AM (#954841)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Leadfingers

If you are including actors who played/sang in films,what about Anthony Banderas who HAD to learn Marriachi guitar for the Desperados or at least I think thats what it was called,which has some good music
in it and some lovely tongue in cheek shoot outs as well.


18 May 03 - 12:38 PM (#954897)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Art Thieme

Rick,

Kirk singing ??? I can't remember Shatner ever singing anything like that in any of the episodes I ever saw !!

Art ;-)


18 May 03 - 12:41 PM (#954901)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Art Thieme

I mentioned WENDY HILLER and Roger Livesay's fine film I Know Where I'm Going" in my first post to this thread. I just saw yesterday that Dame Wendy Hiller passed away this week at age 90. I'm sorry to hear that.

Art Thieme


18 May 03 - 10:34 PM (#955175)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Little Robyn

Spencer Tracy also played a hurdy-gurdy while he was singing to Freddie Bartholmew in Captains Courageous. He sang other songs in another language as well but I can't remember them.


19 May 03 - 02:54 AM (#955240)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Cluin

Emilio Estevez, as Billy the Kid, whistles Mná na hÉireann in Young Guns.
There were a couple of other Irish tunes in that one too. I remember him dancing to Planxty Irwin, I think.


19 May 03 - 09:50 PM (#955844)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Judy Cook

We just watched "Best In Show" on DV. One of the guys sings the last verse of Barbara Allen as a good night over the phone to his dog.
--Judy


19 May 03 - 10:36 PM (#955869)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: GUEST

One of the plays we put on when I was in college was "Dark of the Moon". I can't even recall the playwright, but it was set in the Appalachians and featured lots of music. What I remember was that Barb'ry Allen was sung several times and was more or less a theme song.

Also, I just watched Moby Dick on DVD and there are some good old sea chanteys performed in that one.


20 May 03 - 08:31 AM (#956094)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: JJ

"Dark of the Moon" by Howard Richardson and William Berney uses its own version of the song to establish the romance between John the Witch Boy and the human Barbara Allen. (The play invents an entire backwoods folklore about witches, too.)

I played Barbara's little brother Floyd way back in 1965.

The play was made into an opera, "Conjure Moon," by the Lloyd brothers, D. Thomas and Timothy, in the 1980s.


20 May 03 - 01:15 PM (#956283)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: Harry Basnett

Good old sea-shanties by Bert Lloyd in 'Moby Dick'.....


20 May 03 - 02:37 PM (#956351)
Subject: RE: Barbara Allen in '30's Film
From: GUEST

"You done sloppin' them hawgs yit?"
Dark of the Moon - our finest hour!