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13 May 03 - 03:48 PM (#951969) Subject: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: GUEST,pdc The situation described at the following link could well prove to be the downfall of Bush in 2004. Read the part below the Newsweek picture, beginning "But the battle on this issue is far from over..." What is Bush hiding? Is anyone really surprised, even one bit? |
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13 May 03 - 04:21 PM (#951990) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Jim the Bart Makes you wonder, doesn't it. When you live in a democracy, the people need to know what's going on. Not just some of it - all of it. How else can you hope to make an educated choice. |
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13 May 03 - 04:38 PM (#952003) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: catspaw49 Oh yeah!!! Oh Yeah!!! OH YEAH!!! OH YEAH!!!.......I can see this one shaping up nicely. Already showing signs of Nixon........I love it. This may well be the best thing that has happened to the country since he took (literally) the office. Spaw |
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13 May 03 - 06:21 PM (#952071) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: katlaughing You're right, Spaw. I hope it brings his house of cards, no Twin Tower rubble falling down around hs head! |
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13 May 03 - 07:51 PM (#952130) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: GUEST "...The invocation of executive privilege could fuel suspicions that the White House is stonewalling the panel in order to cover up politically embarrassing mistakes..." This is a red herring. No mistakes were made on Sept 11. The most surgical of all possible strikes was carried out on American soil with precision. Presidential access codes were involved, NORAD was deactivated for the event, etc. It's not that Bush 'should have known' or 'had prior knowledge'....they did the job. The Pentagon and the Bushes. The media keeps telling us the govt made a 'mistake', and that's not true. But some attention to the matter is better than none. Bush will either die on a gurney after a fair trial, or he'll throw out the 22nd Amendment and be potentate for life. |
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13 May 03 - 08:12 PM (#952140) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: SINSULL Oh my! Did we forget to wear our tinfoil today? I agree with Spaw. This has all the makings of a Watergate and for all the same reasons. Instead of putting out the facts and saying "We screwed up", Bush like Nixon will lie, cover up, change his story and ultimately lose the support of the American people. Had Nixon simply admitted that his men were a bit over-enthusiastic and let them suffer the appropriate punishment, Watergate would have been a two week scandal, now long forgotten. A disaster on the scale of the World Trade Center was in the cards. Sooner or later the CIA, FBI, President, etc were bound to miscalculate. No doubt there were a dozen or more scares similar to 9-11 that never materialized and allowed leaders to become complacent. Keep in mind - this was not the first attempt to bring the towers down. So Bush can come clean, put all the information into the committee's hand, and deal with the flak for a week or two. Or he can stonewall, delay, tie it all up in the courts and prolong the agony while postponing the inevitable right up to the next election. Hopefully, while we are all watching the sideshow someone will keep an eye on the terrorists. |
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13 May 03 - 09:57 PM (#952179) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Bobert This thing ain't going nowhere! Guarenteed. This is not an administration buit a regime. These folks will be in power until we are all dead! There is no end to it! Yeah, they have manipulated the public to such a degree that there ain't no turning back. All they gotta do is lie thru their teeth on any issue and then invoke 9-11 and nationalism. Ths US is very much right where Germany was in the mid 1930's. And all the Bushites gotta do is say that anyone who questions Buish is *un-American*. Man, how has the US of A gooten so intollerant, just as Germany in the 30's? It's no wonder that they can't get democracy jump satrted in Iraq because they don't have a clue of waht *democracy* really is. No, it's back room corporate deals. It's the fleecing of the working class. I's intollerance of anyone who might satnd up to these facists who Talk the talk but don't walk the walik. Yeah, they are gonna bankrupt the country with their greed and shove the working class back about 50 to 100 years. We're lookin' at a return to slavery with the redneck south cherrin' it on, not realizing that they are the new slave class. Hope they enjoy their servitude as much as their Budwieser and NASCAR. This Bud's fir you! Now get yer ass back in the cotton field! Welcome to Bush's America...,. Bobert |
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13 May 03 - 10:18 PM (#952187) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: GUEST The surgical precision requiring Presidential Authorization Codes and the grounding of NORAD jets means White House and Pentagon involvement in 9-11. We all know it. People are still refusing to admit it, a defense mechanism, but it'll bust open. And this Exec Priviledge is a red herring. GW not only knew beforehand about 9-11, he facilitated the attacks. The media wants us to think GW was a step behind those darned terrorists, but that is just an attempt to minimize the guy's role in the matter. He IS terrorist # 1, and it'll all get sorted out. I personally hope GW declares our TX democrats 'terrorists', since they are acting in a way to 'affect political change'. Terrorism, according to the new Patriot Act. That would get people stirred up. Show GW talking about tribunal executions for the opposition party...that'd do the trick. The guy's stupid enough he might try it, too, if people inundated the White House begging for it. |
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13 May 03 - 10:41 PM (#952200) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Ebbie Bobert, you're sounding more like Dreaded Guest than he is! : ) |
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13 May 03 - 11:01 PM (#952201) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Doug_Remley I fear that unlike Guest's feelings NORAD and some persons in the Executive branch were not "in on it" or knew more than reported. A cover-up, if there is one of which I'm sure, is about the reality that NORAD, The White House and other agencies are "infiltratable." Bush is a wealthy martinet. Military careerists are bureaucratic warlords jealous of domain. Were their fallability common knowledge they would feel power-threatened and so want to cover that fallability. I cannot believe they have not plugged the dike by now and this can only be ego-salvage. "And the truth shall set you Free." Though blinders do create tunnel vision. |
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13 May 03 - 11:32 PM (#952219) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Stilly River Sage Is this Dreaded Guest forgetting to use his handle, or do we have another Conspiracy Theorist in our midst? DG--please sign in! SRS |
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14 May 03 - 12:05 AM (#952243) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: GUEST No, my handle was hijacked. So its anonymity again. If the Pentagon and White House were infiltrated, why were ALL the people responsible for the fiasco promoted? Bush also gave financial bonuses to the people in charge of the agencies after 9-11. This group is so arrogant, they block investigations and cover up and hand out rewards as though no one will notice. There are lots of 9-11 timelines and such if they need to be posted again. Sept 11 was pulled off by the US govt. I agree the Executive Priviledge mentioned would fan the flames, so I hope it's so. But then another bombing will divert people. This govt terrorizes on a daily basis so people don't have TIME to focus on Sept 11. But a sitting president can be deposed while in office, and I would LOVE to see GW questioned regarding Sept 11. He'd hang himself with his own words. Guranteed. |
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14 May 03 - 12:37 AM (#952255) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: GUEST,pdc Okay, all you Democrats -- let the authorities handle the executive privilege thing (hope they can); what you all need to do now is found in another thread called "Shallow Throat." Although it's written as satire, it represents EXACTLY what (I think) Democrats throughout the US really need to do. |
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14 May 03 - 01:23 AM (#952262) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Doug_Remley Almost obligatory in any cover-up is promotion and buy-off. |
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14 May 03 - 05:35 AM (#952331) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Hrothgar If you want Bush to hang himself with his own words, isn't there a risk of the rope unravelling? :-) |
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14 May 03 - 10:42 AM (#952493) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: GUEST Any man who says he is going to Greece to talk to the Grecians won't be able to answer the really hard questions. The knot won't slip. |
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14 May 03 - 11:22 AM (#952520) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Peter T. I still want to know about Mulder's alien child. yours, Peter T. |
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14 May 03 - 11:57 AM (#952538) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Don Firth In the Britcom "Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister" (which, in addition to being a very funny show, is one of the best telecourses in political science ever offered), Sir Humphrey informs a bewildered Hacker, "The purpose of the Official Secrets Act is not to protect secrets. It's to protect officials!" Works for me. . . . Don Firth |
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14 May 03 - 12:36 PM (#952556) Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege From: Little Hawk That's on another thread, Peter. :-) - LH |