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Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs

11 Jun 03 - 10:37 AM (#965812)
Subject: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Fliss

I have any number of slow songs to sing unaccompanied Sean Nos style.
But I am looking for some lively songs to add to my repertoire... to sing in Irish music sessions and in the All Britain Fleadh at the end of June....

My friend Tig suggested I tried Mudcat for some ideas....!

cheers
Fliss


11 Jun 03 - 12:14 PM (#965881)
Subject: Lyr Add: MY IRISH JAUNTING CAR
From: GUEST,Spalpeen

MY IRISH JAUNTING CAR

I am an Irish Jarvy and Ireland is my home.
There's nowhere else on this old earth where I would wish to roam,
But I like to meet the stranger and drive them near and far
To view the sights of old Ireland in my Irish jaunting car.

CHORUS: Come drive you in my jaunting car through Roscommon and Kildare,
Through Dublin town to Ballina or the lovely County Clare,
From Cork to Limerick and Athlone and home by Mullingar,
You can view the lakes of Killarney from my Irish jaunting car.

Some people now want change of air go far across the main
To view the sights and scenery of Italy and Spain,
But if I only had my way, they'd never go that far
Until they'd be round old Ireland in my Irish jaunting car. CHORUS

(Good Luck Spalpeen)


11 Jun 03 - 04:21 PM (#966011)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Fliss

Cheers Spalpeen

Looked 4 it on DT and its written in 1952! Judges get a bit picky if the song is not old traditional! They turn up their noses at Dubliners stuff and Music hall stuff...

Did Ned of the Hill and Siuil a Run for the Midland region Fleadh and got a silver... but Siuil a Run is really sad and slow, but I sang it a bit more lively.

Back to drawing board.

fliss


11 Jun 03 - 04:54 PM (#966025)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Amos

The Maid of the Sweet Brown Knowe is the English version of a tradfitional, lively Sean Nos tune. I don't know the Gaelic version, although I have heard Aine sing it.

The English version starts:

Com\e all ye lads and lassies
And listen to me a while
I'll sing to you a verse or two,
'T will cause you all to smile
It's about a fair young maiden,
And I'm going to tell you now
How she turned away a suitor
At the foot of the sweet brown knowe.


It can be a reg'lar toe-tapper, done right.

A

A


11 Jun 03 - 04:55 PM (#966026)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Zhenya

A few popped into my head:

Bold Doherty
The Next Market Day
Pretty Peg
Willie Taylor
The Maid that sold her Barley

Maybe check albums by/with singers: Niamh Parsons, Altan,
Dervish, Deanta, etc.


11 Jun 03 - 06:40 PM (#966084)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Brían

Fliss,

Are you looking for songs in Irish or English only? There are fast songs in Irish(Amhráin Tapaidh). They are usually Mouth Music. There are definitley threads on these on mudcat.

Brían


11 Jun 03 - 08:44 PM (#966173)
Subject: Lyr Add: PADDY, THE COCKNEY, AND THE ASS
From: Virginia Blankenhorn

A wonderful song that would surely go down well in England is "Paddy, the Cockney, and the Ass." It's no doubt music hall vintage (so not absolutely ancient), but I learnt it from the late Tom Lenihan of West Clare, and you can't imagine a more unimpeachable source for traditional singing. Here are the words:

Pat Molloy was an Irish boy, he came from County Clare
He thought he'd go to London to see the sights were there
"I've always heard that London is a very pretty place,
And so" says he "I'll go and see if that be the case."
Radley fol-the-diddle-eye-doe, rights fol-the-day.

When Paddy got to London he was taken by surprise
The sights of that great city fairly dazzled Paddy's eyes.
One day as he's going down the street meditating to himself
He met with a ragged Cockney and a donkey -- selling delft.
Radley fol-the-diddle-eye-doe, rights fol-the-day.

Now this damned oul' ragged Cockney would not let poor Paddy pass.
He says, "speak to your brother," and he pointed to the ass.
"I thought, me man" says Paddy "that I had no brother here!"
And, bending down, he whispered something in the ass's ear.
Radley fol-the-diddle-eye-doe, rights fol-the-day.

As Pat was speaking to the ass, now boys, what did he do?
He slipped a pebble in his ear! He did! Begod, tis true!
The ass went mad, upset the cart, broke all the earthenware,
And the damned oul' ragged Cockney, he went crazy clear and clean.
Radley fol-the-diddle-eye-doe, rights fol-the-day.

He shouted for the peelers to take poor Pat in charge,
Saying "seize this Irish vagabond! He should not be at large!"
"Begone, you English spalpeen," said Paddy with a smile,
"You took me for an ass because I came from Erin's isle!"
Radley fol-the-diddle-eye-doe, rights fol-the-day.

"That's nonsense," cried the magistrate, "you know the ass went mad."
"I do, indeed," said Paddy, "and I'm sorry too, bedad."
"Be careful," cried the magistrate, "I want no nonsense here;
But come and tell me every word you whispered in his ear."
Radley fol-the-diddle-eye-doe, rights fol-the-day.

"Oh, that I'll do," says Paddy, "your request I'll not refuse.
You always heard that donkeys were very fond of news?
I thought I'd say a word or two the donkey's heart to cheer,
And now I'll tell you every word I whispered in his ear.
Radley fol-the-diddle-eye-doe, rights fol-the-day.

"They say that now in Ireland we have our wrongs redressed,
Our noble-hearted Irish men no longer are oppressed.
We've got rid of all the landlords, Ireland to ourselves we have;
And when the donkey heard the news, by Heavens, he went mad!"
Radley fol-the-diddle-eye-doe, rights fol-the-day.

The magistrate from laughing he had to creep his head
When he looked at poor old Paddy and thought of what he said.
And turning round to Paddy saying, "A clever rogue you are,
And for your clever answer I'll dismiss you from the bar."
Radley fol-the-diddle-eye-doe, rights fol-the-day.

Mind you, I know of one adjudicator at the All Ireland in 2001 who marked this song down because of its music hall origins -- what he called "Paddy whackery" -- but what's good enough for Tom Lenihan ought to have been good enough for him, IMHO. (But then, I probably feel this way at least partly because I was the singer who was marked down.)

A word or two about style: if you're going in for Fleadh competitions, try not to be too theatrical. There was an English singer at the All Ireland that same Fleadh, she had a lovely voice, but her song also was a music hall number which she unfortunately exaggerated by indulging in a certain amount of stage business. This isn't something Comhaltas approves of -- if you care what Comhaltas approves of.

Good luck!

Virginia


12 Jun 03 - 07:40 PM (#966624)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Emma B

To say the Fleadh judges can be 'picky' is an understatement! What about traditional drinking sonds like Preab San Ol or Ta na La or Oro, Se do Bheatha Abhaile and An Poc ar Buile all pretty 'lively' and available in reasonable translations



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12 Jun 03 - 07:59 PM (#966633)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Miken

Also "A Kiss in the Morning Early", sung by Mick Hanly and also by Niamh Parsons
Mike


13 Jun 03 - 01:41 PM (#966840)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Zhenya

Good one Mike!


22 Jun 03 - 10:37 PM (#970693)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Fliss

Thanks for the ideas one and all.

Im singing in English. No I wont be theatrical.. not my style.

Yes Comhaltas is picky and the adjudicators move the goalposts every year.

As I havnt done any Sean Nos until this year I am finding it a bit of a struggle to find what is traditional, music hall, or 20th century.

Watched the mens All Britain competition last year and one chap had a dirge of 11 verses and came 2nd... aaaggh

Got a nice CD by Carmel Gunning called Lakes of Sligo. Tend to put CDs on in the car and learn the songs.

Ah well Ormskirk here I come.

cheers
Fliss


23 Jun 03 - 06:39 PM (#971223)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: GUEST,mossie scanlon

i am a traditiniol singer/native irish speaker from kerry and i just releasd a cd which includes sean nos style singing check it out www.mossiescanlon.com


02 Jul 03 - 07:22 PM (#975553)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish Traditional Songs
From: Fliss

Thanks Mossie, Ill look at your website in a min.

I had an enjoyable day at Ormskirk. Didnt win anything, but heard about 15 singers, male and female so got lots of ideas of what to learn.

Our grupai ceoil is very small compared to others in the competition, but again we enjoyed ourselves.

My friend got silver on both banjo and mandolin so is thru. So group of us off to All Ireland Fleadh at the end of August to cheer him on. Have enjoyed the last two years in Listowel. Its in Clonmel this time.
slan
Fliss