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18 Jun 03 - 02:55 AM (#968175) Subject: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard I am going to spend my holiday in northern England and on the Isle of Man this year. I will fly into Manchester on 26th July and leave from there on 24th of August. I intend to ride my bicycle to Liverpool first and go to Isle of Man for a few days. After that, nothing is planned yet. If anyone is interested in meeting, please tell me! MudGuard PS: Noreen, did you get my 2 PMs and my email? |
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18 Jun 03 - 03:52 AM (#968186) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: smallpiper Get yourself to Whitby the fetsival runs 16th - 22nd August you will meet loads of Catters there. |
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18 Jun 03 - 04:13 AM (#968192) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Bassic August is packed with events, http://www.frootsmag.com/content/festivals/ is a good place to start and lists most things. Then keep your eye on the various threads "Who`s going to Whitby/Beverley/Broadstairs etc etc etc." which will give you a flavour of how popular the event is amongst `Catters. Whitby and Broadstairs are my two main ones this Summer but will also be trying to get to Rothbury and one or two others as funds allow. Good luck with your trip and hope to see you somewhere during August!! |
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18 Jun 03 - 05:46 AM (#968230) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Schantieman Hi, Andreas I'm in Liverpool and would delighted to meet you. I'll be at Warwick when you arrive but back home some time the week after. I could show you the sights and - maybe - convert you to English beer! Steve |
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18 Jun 03 - 09:55 AM (#968383) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome If your in the Manchester area at all give me a yell. PM here for details or email on dpolshaw@hotmail.com. Good luck for your visit anyway. Cheers Dave the Gnome |
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18 Jun 03 - 10:42 AM (#968413) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Noreen Hi Andy, yes and I've replied (at Irish pace rather than German pace, sorry). Can find some events where you're likely to meet other mudcatters, if you wish. I'll look after you :0) |
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18 Jun 03 - 11:01 AM (#968427) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Smallpiper, Whitby sounds good and possible for me - at least the first days - I have to cycle back to Manchester and be there on the evening of 23rd August... Bassic, thanks for the festival list. Most of them are either at the wrong time or too far away (the range of a cyclist is limited...) Schantieman, I will try to contact you when come back from the Isle of Man (if you send me a PM or mail with details). Dave, I will definitely be in Manchester on 26th of July, probably also on 27th. Noreen, sorry I was impatient - I wanted to book flights on Monday (and have done so - more answers see PM which I will send you in a minute. |
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18 Jun 03 - 11:43 AM (#968459) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Noreen I'm planning to be at Whitby too. Hills there though... you got lots of gears?? |
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18 Jun 03 - 12:41 PM (#968490) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard 21 gears - but gears are not the most important thing - you need muscles! Btw, it is really just hills in England. I have crossed real mountains - been across the alps (up to 2509meters above sea level) on my bike... |
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18 Jun 03 - 01:02 PM (#968504) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Les from Hull We've nothing like the Alps over here in Yorkshire. If you can manage those, you can manage anything we can put in your way! The North Yorkshire Moors (near Whitby) are more or less plateau moorland (heather and bracken) - once you're up there is reasonably good going. You'll cross the Pennines between Yorkshire and Lancashire though. These are hills but higher than the Moors. Just need to add a bit of time to your estimate, but nothing serious to a 'proper' cyclist. Whitby Folk Week is the premier folk event in the North of England (or perhaps the whole of the UK, or Europe - depends who you're listening to). There are hundreds and hundreds of events - concerts, dances, sessions, singarounds, workshops, everything. Apart from that, Whitby is a wonderful town, steeped in history. Accommodation is often a problem, though. Most people book holiday cottages or bed and breakfast from year to year and it's hard to just turn up and get accommodation. You might get camping or hostel space though, especially if you don't mind being a short distance away. Pop back here and check to see if any kind Mudcatter has a spare bed in Whitby for Folk Week |
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18 Jun 03 - 07:04 PM (#968665) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST Well, I'm sure i could find some sessions for you in the Isle of Man! |
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19 Jun 03 - 03:18 AM (#968837) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Guest, that would be very nice of you! Are you living on the Isle of Man? |
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19 Jun 03 - 03:51 AM (#968848) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome Saturday and Sunday night eh? Our club (Swinton) is on Mondays but I am sure we can find you something good. Irish session at the Jolly Angler is on a Saturday if I remember rightly and isn't the Open Door on a Sunday anyone? Anyhow - you are more than welcome to B&B for yourself and a shed for your bike:-) Just get in touch if you want to take me up on it. Cheers Dave the Gnome |
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19 Jun 03 - 02:33 PM (#969229) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Linda Kelly Get yourself to Whitby Andreas!! |
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19 Jun 03 - 03:12 PM (#969251) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Linda, I will try! Problem might be to find a place to sleep - I do not have a tent with me, and I can't book anything now, as on a cycling tour too much could happen that prevents me from arriving at a certain date... Andy/MudGuard |
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19 Jun 03 - 04:12 PM (#969274) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,Shonagh Mudguard, (the guest was me by the way!) I dont actually live in the IoM but have been across before and have plently of mates over. I'll ask them about any sessions or festivals ( althought i think Shennajhs has just finished) going on when you are over. sho x |
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19 Jun 03 - 04:36 PM (#969290) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Thanks in advance, Shonagh, that would be very nice! |
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19 Jun 03 - 05:12 PM (#969306) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Eric the Viking Andy, that is a shame, as you arrive we are also arriving but in the Netherlands,cycling for a month, and as you leave, we are arriving back in the UK. We will miss you.But have a great time Cheers Eric |
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19 Jun 03 - 05:15 PM (#969308) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Thanks, Erik, have a nice holiday yourself! We will meet next May anyway - already got the ok from my boss for the days off work ;-) MudGuard/Andy |
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19 Jun 03 - 06:08 PM (#969329) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Liz the Squeak Whoo hoo!! Can't wait til next May then!! LTS |
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19 Jun 03 - 06:13 PM (#969331) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Hello Liz, this summer, I fly into Manchester directly, so no chance to drop in at your place... MudGuard/Andy |
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21 Jun 03 - 04:53 PM (#970296) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard One more questions: My maps show a ferry connection from Douglas (Isle of Man) to Heysham and to Fleetwood. But I can't find any info (time tables) for these connections, only for the connection Liverpool-Douglas. Do these connections exist at all? |
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21 Jun 03 - 06:38 PM (#970329) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Gareth Well Butty , should you detour via South Wales, there is a bed at your disposal. Gareth |
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21 Jun 03 - 06:59 PM (#970338) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Thanks, Gareth, but South Wales is not included in my plans for this year - on a bicycle it is too far... (just noticed - in my last post it should be "question", not "questions") Andy/MudGuard |
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22 Jun 03 - 03:38 PM (#970506) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Eric the Viking http://www.ferryclever.co.uk/gatewaypages/iom-ferries.html try this link. I beleive ferries go at about 07.30, 14.00 hrs Andy. |
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22 Jun 03 - 03:44 PM (#970509) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Eric the Viking http://www.cheap-ferries.co.uk/timetables.htm Or try this. Cheers Eric |
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22 Jun 03 - 04:27 PM (#970528) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Thanks Eric, the first link results in Timetable not available for requested Route/Date - Please reselect when I select Douglas - Heysham. And the same on the second link (seems to access the same database - the error message looks exactly the same) So what does that mean? Are there no ferries going or are they just too stupid to display the timetable on the web page? Andy/MudGuard |
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22 Jun 03 - 04:57 PM (#970542) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Hi Andreas, While I can't understand why you should want to avoid the cultural delights of Liverpool, and travel from Heysham (which has absolutely no known features of interest), it is possible for you to do so. The Isle of Man Steam Packet Company runs a regular ferry service which can be booked online here The Isle of Man Steam Packet Company in the cyber age!, but the Seacat® service (=hydrofoil high-speed ship) only runs on the Liverpool-Douglas route, not via Heysham. If you do change your mind and decide to pass through Liverpool it would be nice to see you again. Matthew |
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22 Jun 03 - 04:58 PM (#970543) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Noreen All the Irish Sea crossings have changed regularly in the last few years, Andy. I'll ring a travel agent tomorrow and find out for you. |
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22 Jun 03 - 05:17 PM (#970553) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Matthew, I will go to Liverpool and go to Isle of Man from there. But on the way back from the Isle of Man I was thinking of maybe taking the Douglas-Heysham route as I want to go to the Lake District, it might safe me some At the moment, I plan to go from Manchester to Liverpool on Monday the 29th. And yes, Matthew, it would be nice to meet again! Noreen, the link Matthew gave says there will be ferries to Heysham - two or three each day, so no need for you to find out as I did already! But thanks for the offer! |
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22 Jun 03 - 05:37 PM (#970558) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Noreen OK- our posts crossed. |
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22 Jun 03 - 06:13 PM (#970579) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards OK Andreas, I think I've begun to understand your itinerary. Cycling through Cheshire and Lancashire is a treat as John J would confirm, so your trip from Manchester to Liverpool should be very enjoyable. Most of the local folk clubs close during late July and August, so I don't know what singing or music sessions will be available. If you are looking for somewhere to stay on Merseyside before you sail to the Isle of Man you are most welcome here. You can email me at "matthew.rwedwards[no.spam]btopenworld.com" (*Replace [no.spam] with "@") |
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23 Jun 03 - 04:31 AM (#970789) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome Does anyone know if the P&O ferries from Fleetwood still go to the IOM? I can find a route to Larne (Which gives me an idea for my hols next year:-)) but I can't find details of any Fleetwood/Douglas sailings? Clansfolk - you there? Anyone? Cheers DtG |
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23 Jun 03 - 05:27 AM (#970800) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: EtV@work I think they only go in high summer months, but will find out. Are you after doing the TT course Dave? |
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23 Jun 03 - 05:34 AM (#970802) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Partridge Andreas,I might be able to find a spare couch for you in Whitby, but I don't know how long it is! but its got to be better than the caravan floor, Pat x |
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23 Jun 03 - 08:17 AM (#970861) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Partridge, thanks for your offer, but Noreen + Linda have already offered me a cottage floor space + air mattress + sleeping bag! MudGuard/Andy |
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23 Jun 03 - 08:35 AM (#970866) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Noreen Pat- he obviously thinks he can cope with sleeping at Linda's feet again... he may change his mind! *grin* |
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23 Jun 03 - 09:23 AM (#970891) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard This time, I know what to expect - and I will come prepared (grinding my knife at the moment...) ;-) A long floor space is better than a short couch ;-) And most couches are too short for my 6'4" ;-) Andy/MudGuard (looking forward to this trip!) |
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23 Jun 03 - 09:35 AM (#970895) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome You never know, Eric. Bit late for this one though... Cheers DtG |
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23 Jun 03 - 12:32 PM (#971006) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Eric the Viking No Dave, get on the island and give the bike a real thrash round the course-it's a great ride, especially with a sidecar stuck to the side!(and a screaming Mrs V !) |
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28 Jun 03 - 02:34 AM (#973719) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in Hull during Whitby... From: MudGuard Is by chance any of the many Hull (or is it Hull9?) catters not in Whitby on Wednesday, 20th August or Thursday, 21st August? Andy/MudGuard |
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22 Jul 03 - 05:13 AM (#987951) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Getting very excited, only a few days to go! ;-) |
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22 Jul 03 - 07:08 AM (#987990) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Harry Basnett If you can make it to the Open Door on the Sunday it'll be great to meet you...... Love.......Harry and Sara. |
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22 Jul 03 - 07:22 AM (#987998) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Matthew suggested the Open Door as well. Let's see which plans Dave has made for me ;-) |
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22 Jul 03 - 07:28 AM (#988000) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome Open door sounds good to me as well:-) See you Saturday. :D |
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22 Jul 03 - 07:47 AM (#988007) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Ok, then Open Door it will be! Yes, see you Saturday, not too late afternoon - looking forward to it very much! |
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25 Jul 03 - 01:17 PM (#990571) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Ok, northern England, beware! I am coming! In less than 9 hours (at 4am in the morning) I start for the Munich Airport... |
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26 Jul 03 - 12:16 PM (#991100) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome He's here! Been up since 3am so a bit tired but just done the grand tour of Manchester and Salford. Anyone wanting to get in touch let me know. Cheers DtG |
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28 Jul 03 - 03:16 AM (#991782) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard In Salford at the house of Dave the Gnome I felt very welcome - I felt at home! By Elaine and Dave like a prince I was fed and Stewart even let me have his bed. But Amy and Cathy I could not tell apart even though I tried to really hard... Now what I really want to say: Thank you for a pleasant stay! |
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28 Jul 03 - 06:53 AM (#991849) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome TeeHee - Thanks Andy:-) Now if only I could get Molly Malone out of my head... Visited the Open Door last night and had a grand night. Thanks Bernard, Harry, Mark and everyone. Keep in touch, Andy, even if it is on this thread. Let us know how the tour is going and invite us to the Lake District slide show! Cheers :D |
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28 Jul 03 - 04:21 PM (#992190) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Made it safe to Port Sunlight (though not dry). Got a great welcome from Matthew and another lovely meal! And a tour of the west side of the Mersey. Tomorrow I take the ferry to the Isle of Man... |
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28 Jul 03 - 04:57 PM (#992210) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Noreen Glad to see you got here safely and are being well looked after, Andy. Keep us informed of how things are going. |
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29 Jul 03 - 04:26 AM (#992486) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards I've just sent him on his way to the land of the three-legged Man and of cats without tails. I've fed and watered him as best I could, but not enough to keep him going till he joins Noreen and Linda in Whitby - so I hope other Mudcatters en route will set up feeding stations! Nice to have seen you again Andy! and it was great to hear you singing on Sunday at the Open Door. Do keep us all informed of your progress, and have a great holiday. |
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29 Jul 03 - 09:22 AM (#992627) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Noreen OK Andy, you're singing at the Tap & Spile in Whitby! No excuses now you're an experienced pub singer :0) |
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03 Aug 03 - 03:02 PM (#996016) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,MudGuard w/o cookie Hello, still alive after having left the Isle of Man... Am at Langdale YHA right now... For Matthew (thanks and everything): On my bicycle I did ride To the fair city of Port Sunlight Where I was allowed to spend the night, got food that was a real delight vegetable and a piece of porc, deliciously prepared by the Duke of York ;-) Probably going on to Wastwater tomorrow, Buttermere after that... And no, I am not an experienced pub singer - the masses at the Open Door overruled me (at least concerning the speed of the song...) cu soon in Whitby... |
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04 Aug 03 - 04:02 AM (#996272) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Thanks for those lovely rhymes Andy. We missed you last night at the Open Door. Be careful cycling in this heatwave - I got a touch of sunstroke after 6 hours in the Welsh hills on Saturday! Wastwater and Buttermere should be good, but I seem to remember that some of the hills had only uphill slopes so you will need all your gears. |
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04 Aug 03 - 05:03 AM (#996289) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome Don't try a dip on Wastwater if you get too hot Andy. It's a lot deep and very cold! Sprinkling tarn at about 1000' up the valley between Scafell and Great Gable is worth dipping your tootsies in though:-) Try a ride on little Ratty out of Ravenglass if you get chance and have a good scout about Eskdale as well. Very pretty indeed. How did you enjoy the Isle of Mann btw? Keep us posted. Cheers :D |
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04 Aug 03 - 09:09 AM (#996390) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: greg stephens I think you will have already gone past, but if at Chapel Stile,Langdale, lay a flower on the grave of William Irwin, the great fiddler. |
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10 Aug 03 - 10:15 PM (#1000027) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Noreen Hope all is still going well, Andy. |
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12 Aug 03 - 07:36 AM (#1000743) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,MudGuard w/o cookie Still alive, in Penrith Library for the moment... Will definitely be in Whitby on Saturday, early afternoon probably... cu soon... |
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14 Aug 03 - 10:20 AM (#1001884) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Me again. Will arrive in Whitby sometime on Saturday afternoon, can't say exactly when - I will come from Aysgarth Falls - about 95km west from Whitby... cu soon! Andy/MudGuard |
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14 Aug 03 - 12:07 PM (#1001979) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Noreen I'll wait for your call, Andy :0) |
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14 Aug 03 - 12:20 PM (#1001990) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome Coincidence Andy! The weekend after your stay here we were in West Witton - The next village along from Aysgarth! If you see this I would heartily recommend a visit to the gardens at Castle Bolton. The castle itself is OK but dunno if it is worth paying the admission. The gardens though are free and although small very good indeed, with spectacular views. Enjoy:-) Cheers DtG |
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18 Aug 03 - 06:54 AM (#1003918) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,MudGuard w/o cookie Hello Dave, I did go into the Castle (it's 1 Pound less for YHA members...) And I went to the gardens as well. And I did both of it BEFORE I read your message! Btw, I finally arrived in Whitby, having a great time. And I also met Antonia, she is sitting opposite on a different computer at Whitby Library. MudGuard |
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18 Aug 03 - 07:18 AM (#1003926) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Hello Andy MudGuard, Hull is very quiet! 9they all are in whitby], I'm setting of later, i'll be in Tap and Spile at about 7PM.john |
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21 Aug 03 - 01:12 PM (#1005950) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,MudGuard w/o cookie Made it safely to York... |
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21 Aug 03 - 03:44 PM (#1006043) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Eric the Viking Ah Andy, when you log on next. We must have been close today. We just today returned from Holland. Just under 1000Km this year, but the weather was very hot. Bear in mind that my Freja is only 10 years old, she cycles really well fro her age. We had a great time. Cheers Eric |
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24 Aug 03 - 05:35 PM (#1007475) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Made it safely back home! More after some (much needed) sleep... MudGuard |
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25 Aug 03 - 04:44 AM (#1007676) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Glad to see that you've returned safely, and survived Whitby!! Now let's have your full report, with photos!!! It was nice to have met again, and it sounds as if you had a good holiday. |
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25 Aug 03 - 05:09 AM (#1007683) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Herga Kitty And he did sing in the Tap and Spile! Kitty |
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25 Aug 03 - 07:22 AM (#1007711) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard Matthew, photos will take a while - I did not bring the digital camera, just the old-style analogue SLR with slide films - I will take them to the shop for developping in a few minutes... And Herga: Pssssssssssssssssssssst, don't tell the world... ;-) |
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25 Aug 03 - 12:13 PM (#1007819) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Mrs.Duck But we heard you, Andy! In Dublin's fair city |
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26 Aug 03 - 06:33 AM (#1008214) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: MudGuard And I thought it was in Whitby... ;-) ;-) ;-) |
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26 Aug 03 - 06:44 AM (#1008220) Subject: RE: BS: MudGuard in northern England/Isle of Man From: Dave the Gnome Well done that man! Come back soon, Andy. Cheers DtG |