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Lyr Req: The Going Home Song (Jim James)

02 Jul 03 - 05:11 PM (#975486)
Subject: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,Tunesmith

Does anyone out have any info on " The Going Home Song" ?


02 Jul 03 - 05:26 PM (#975494)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: Joe Offer

Hi, Tunesmith - do you mean the Goin' Home (click) used by Dvorak in the New World Symphony? How about Show Me the Way To Go Home?
Most of the time, it helps to put more information than just the song title in your request.
-Joe Offer-


02 Jul 03 - 05:32 PM (#975498)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: Herga Kitty

No Joe, at a guess I think this sounds like Ian Woods and "Time for the going home song".

Kitty


02 Jul 03 - 05:34 PM (#975499)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: Walking Eagle

There is a tune that huntsmen play at funerals of fox hunters called The Going Home Song. Izz that it?


02 Jul 03 - 05:37 PM (#975500)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,MCP

Or do you mean Ian Woods' The Going Home Song, chorus ending something like:

Time we were going home
Time to be getting home
Time for The Going Home Song


Mick


02 Jul 03 - 05:37 PM (#975501)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: Herga Kitty

Tunesmith

I don't know the words, but I can hear in my head Ian Woods singing "Time to be getting home, time for the going home song".

Kitty


02 Jul 03 - 05:38 PM (#975502)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson

The Kingston Trio for years have sung a song called "I'm going Home".


02 Jul 03 - 07:12 PM (#975547)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: Art Thieme

"I'm Going Home"----as done by the Kingston Trio was written by FRED GEIS from Sacramento, California---early 1960s. The song climbed the charts to number ONE almost as soon as it came out. THEN it left the charts as quickly as it had arrived. Someone noticed that the tune for this song was the same as one Gounod had used in his opera FAUST. Later, it was used in a musical Broadway show about early Israel. It was the tune of the title song, "Land Of Milk And Honey".

I sang it on and off for about 40 years. FRED HOLSTEIN recorded it in the late 1960s on a very fine compilation album of Chicago folksingers who played at Earl Pionke's great Wells Street folk bar called The Earl Of Old Town.

Also on this album was Steve Goodman's first ever recording of his famous song "The City Of New Orleans".

Art Thieme


02 Jul 03 - 07:28 PM (#975559)
Subject: Lyr Add: GOING HOME (Fred Geis)
From: Art Thieme

GOING HOME
by Fred Geis

Well no matter where I wander
I know I'll always find a welcome
At the end of every journey
There'll be friendly people waiting.

California could not hold me
Though I loved her timber mountains
I worked her fields and I worked her orchards
Up and down her Central Valley.

I have ridden open boxcars
Through the golden Utah valleys

Art Thieme
I've watched the rivers and seen their gliding
Waved my hand to friendly people.

Those that know me call me a drifter,
But they don't know I'll stop my ramnblin'
They don't know that somewhere, someone is gonna make me
Settle down
I'm going homw, I'm going home...

Well no matter where I wander
I know I'll always find a welcome
At the end of every journey
There'll be friendly people always wating.


02 Jul 03 - 07:32 PM (#975562)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: McGrath of Harlow

"Going Home Song" - that wouldn't be this one, would it?:

Poor old landlord can't get the buggers out,
Can't get the buggers out,
Can't get the buggers out,
Poor old landlord can't get the buggers out,
Time Gentlemen Please!
Time Gentlemen Please!
Time Gentlemen Please!
Poor old landlord can't get the buggers out,
Time Gentlemen Please!

Have you got no homes to go to...

Move your arses, collect your glasses...

Do your talking while you're walking...


No? Thought not. But it's very much part of the oral tradition. A genuine contemporary folk song.


03 Jul 03 - 05:50 AM (#975802)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,JoeMoran

I'm sure a remember the " time for the going home song" from a singer called Jim James who I used to catch at a folk club in New Brighton, near Liverpool back in the 70s. I thought Jim wrote the song. He did move to somewhere on the American East Coast. He was a fine blues/folk singer and a fine songwriter.


03 Jul 03 - 07:06 AM (#975836)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,Tunesmith

Thanks for all the replies. I'm sure it's the " time to going home song" that I'm trying to recall. I remember Jim James( mentioned by Joe Moran ), but don't recall him singing the song. He used to play a 12 string guitar made by Liverpool guitar maker Stan Francis, who also made one for Pete Seeger back in the 60s,


03 Jul 03 - 08:48 AM (#975868)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: Schantieman

Joe is right!

Jim James was a resident of the Bothy Folk Club in Southport, Lancs for some time until the late eighties. He now lives in New England (Maine, I think) and spends the summer as a deckhand and singer on a schooner.

He wrote Going Home Song as a going home song for the club, about some of the local natural sights - the fox on the dunes, the geese on the shore etc. On his periodic visits to the club since then he has been know to sing it. He has been amazed from time to time to hear it sung all over the place, no-one knowing that he wrote it!

I've got all the words at home somewhere, if anyone's interested. Hang on, let's see if I can remember them.....

In the night sky you can hear the geese cry
And it's time for the going home song
The fox on the dune crying up at the moon
And it's time for the going home song

Chorus:
Travellers the wide world all over
Let your star follow you through the night.
With the storm clouds at bay
At the end of the day
When it's time for the going home song.


There are two or three more verses. I'll try & remember to look 'em out,

Steve


03 Jul 03 - 08:53 AM (#975874)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,MMario

Wow! love the lyrics. Any chance for the tune?


03 Jul 03 - 08:54 AM (#975876)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: fogie

It's not "Lord I feel I'm going home" is it? -everything I done was wrong an I feel like going home. I know Ive seen it recently, and sometime in the past I've sung it, but it's gone like smoke on the water. I have a feeling Eric Clapton did it.


03 Jul 03 - 10:07 AM (#975924)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: Schantieman

Yes Mario.
It goes:

Daaa de de de
De de daa de de de
de dah dum de dah diddle dah dum

Until I can learn/find a way of writing music on here.... It's as easy as ABC, I believe??

;-)

Steve


03 Jul 03 - 10:29 AM (#975937)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,Tunesmith

Yes, it is the Jim James song that I was trying to recall. Lovely song to end an evening. I think fogie is thinking a beautiful song by Charlie Rich.


03 Jul 03 - 10:46 AM (#975956)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: KathWestra

Schantieman's got it, I think. This is a song that Cliff Haslam (of Connecticut)sings wonderfully (as he does MOST songs) as a closer at one of my favorite music gatherings. PM me, Tunesmith, and I'll try to get Cliff to write out all the verses. Has a gorgeous tune--not any of the ones suggested by other folks. Kathy


03 Jul 03 - 01:45 PM (#976083)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,Tunesmith

I've done some research in to Jim James. Here moved from the south of England up to Merseyside in the mid-60s and got involved in the local folk music scene. For a while he was teamed up with Raphael Callaghan and they appeared a number of times on Alexis Korner's BBC radio shows. In 1969, they recorded a couple of tracks for a Liberty blues compilation "Gasoline". In the early 90s Jim travelled the world and ended up settling in maine. The " Going Home " song reached there ahead of him via Ian Woods. There is a featured on Jim on www.mainewindjammercruises.com Just click on "The Company" and then on "store" and "music". There is a cd available which contains " Time for the going home song"


03 Jul 03 - 01:49 PM (#976087)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,Tunesmith

That link doesn't work. I'll try again.http://www.mainewindjammercruises.com


03 Jul 03 - 02:13 PM (#976099)
Subject: Tune Add: THE GOING HOME SONG
From: GUEST,MCP

Here's my memory of Ian's version, but I haven't heard it for a long time (and I don't seem to have it anywhere), so it may not be exact. I also can't remember whether the ending I've labelled Last was only for the last chorus or whether it was for all. Perhaps all this can be resolved when the words are posted.

Mick



X: 1
T:The Going Home Song
M:3/4
L:1/4
Q:1/4=120
S:MCP's memory of Ian Woods
K:CMix
E> E F|G2 E/ C/|B A F|G2
w:In the night sky you can hear the geese cry
G/ F/|E2 F/ G/|F D B,|C3-|C2
w:And it's time for the go-ing home song_
(G/F/)|E E> F|G2 E/ C/|B A F|G2
w:The_ fox on the dune cry-ing up at the moon
G/ F/|E2 F/ G/|F D B,|C3-|C3|
w:And it's time for the go-ing home song_
A A> =B|c d> c|A G2-|G2
w:Trav-lers this wide world all o-ver_
G/ G/|A2 A/ A/|G2 E/ C/|D3-|D2
w:May your star fol-low you through the night_
G/ F/|E E> F|G2 E/ C/|B A F|G2
w:With the storm clouds at bay at the end of the day
["Not Last" G/ F/|E2 F/ G/|F D B,|C3-|C3:|
w:Then it's time for the go-ing home song_
["Last" G/ F/|E2 F/ G/|F D B,|
w:Then it's time for the go-ing home
E F G|B< A F|
w:Time we were get-ting home
E2 F/ G/|F< D B,|C3-|C3|]
w:Time for the go-ing home song_


03 Jul 03 - 02:34 PM (#976110)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,MMario

I love this place!


04 Jul 03 - 04:42 AM (#976492)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,MCP

When posting the tune I should have added that "Not Last" and "Last" as repeat markers are non-standard. I think a repeat number is required by the standards (currently in flux but with hopes for a new version soon). abcm2ps accepts it as is and does what you'd like it to do (as it so often does), abcmidi shrieks when it gets to the first repeat.

Mick


04 Jul 03 - 04:51 AM (#976496)
Subject: Lyr Add: THE GOING HOME SONG (Jim James)
From: Schantieman

Right. Found it.

GOING HOME SONG

Jim James

1. In the night sky you can hear the geese cry
Ch: And it's time for the going home song
    The gull on the shore sailing homeward once more
Ch: And it's time for the going home song

Full chorus
Travellers the wide world all over
May your star follow you through the night
With the storm clouds at bay
At the end of the day
Then it's time for the going home -
Time we were getting home -
Time for the going home song.

2. The fox on the dunes looking out for the moon
    The shepherd and dogs wend their way with their flocks

3. There'll be peace once again over valley and plain
    When the mist from the sea spins its own mystery

So there y'go.

He also wrote one called Formby Bypass Blues about a local road of that name (A565)

Steve


04 Jul 03 - 04:53 AM (#976498)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: Schantieman

The 'time we were getting home' bit is in all verses but we usually do it again in the last verse.

('We' being 'Gusto' who haven't sung together for about three years). I think Jim does it like that too, but he didn't do it on is visit this year or last so I really can't remember!

S


25 Oct 03 - 10:34 PM (#1041856)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST,Jim James

Hi folks: I've just had a phone call from a "Mudcatter" in OR who's introduced me to this website.
First off ... I am honored in your interest in The Going Home Song. Secondly, it was fun to see how the thread developed and to note the folk process in action via the internet! I still play the Stan Francis 12-string that was mentioned ( always known as Bertha ! ).... STILL sing the song when the times's right but usually on 6-string. For me the song wrote itself in basically one session ( which is unusual for me but magic when it happens )...and actually fullfilled an ambition of mine which was to have a song pass into the tradition and to hear it sung WITHOUT people knowing where it came from or who wrote it.....in other words, through the oral tradition. So the song was at least 15 years old before it was recorded... and then in Polish. The version on "WINDJAMMER DAYS" was done in '93 with Pam Taylor and David Dodson on 2nd guitar. I think the song works because of it's familiarity, repeat lines, and the opportunity for harmony. So the variations are out there to the extent that I'm happy to put down the version as she was conceived !


In the night sky you can hear the geese cry
when it's time for the going home song.
The gull on the shore's sailing homeward once more
for it's time for the going home song.

Travellers the wide world all over
may your star follow you through the night.
With the storm-clouds at bay at the end of the day....
then it's time for the going home...
time we were getting home....
time for the going home song.

2/ The fox on the dune's looking out for the moon.....
(repeat refrain)
   The shephards an' dogs wend their way with the flocks... etc.,

3/ There'll be peace once a'gin over valley and glen..when it's..etc etc.,
When the mist from the sea spins it's own mystery.. then it's..


                                       Keep Mudcattin', Peace, Jim.


03 Jan 07 - 01:20 PM (#1925745)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: GUEST

I want to know the author who pened the song Going Home, I heard the music when the soliders where taking the late Pres. Ford to the Plane at Andrew Air Force Base. The Music was so moving,I would like to ge a copy of the song. If anyone who knows the author, let me know


03 Jan 07 - 02:01 PM (#1925777)
Subject: RE: The Going Home Song
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)

Not relevant to this thread, but I presume the same one played at Ronald Reagan's funeral and from Dvorak's New World Symphony - see Press Release on State Funeral of RR (section Funeral Service - WNC (postlude)

Mick


02 Dec 19 - 05:28 PM (#4021983)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Going Home Song (Jim James)
From: GUEST

Hello Jim,
I don't know if you'll see this, but I can't seem to locate your direct contact information. I'm the lead editor of the San Francisco Folk Music Club's newsletter, and our music page editor wanted to feature this song in our upcoming issue. Would it be okay to include some of what you wrote about the song (quoting you and crediting Mud Cat Cafe, of course). If so, please contact me at sffmc.folknik.editor@gmail.com.

Thanks!
Donna


02 Dec 19 - 07:32 PM (#4021994)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Going Home Song (Jim James)
From: maeve

Donna, I can help you contact Jim and have set you an email in that regard.


03 Dec 19 - 04:28 PM (#4022126)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Going Home Song (Jim James)
From: GUEST,maeve

Contact has been made with Jim.