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03 Aug 03 - 04:14 PM (#996045) Subject: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Gerard Looking for chords to "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down." |
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03 Aug 03 - 04:45 PM (#996057) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: GUEST,Maximus It's a circle of 5ths. Now go educate yourself. |
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03 Aug 03 - 05:59 PM (#996079) Subject: ADD Chords: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Joe Offer Gee, Maximus, you sure are nasty today. I suppose it's true that expert guitarists don't need to get chord information on songs. Some of us, though, struggle with that sort of stuff even though we may have studied music all our lives. I'm sorry you can't understand us lesser mortals. -Joe Offer- DON'T LET YOUR DEAL GO DOWN D G Sorce: Folksinger's Wordbook (Fred & Irwin Silber, 1973) Here's the entry on this song at the Traditional Ballad Index: Don't Let Your Deal Go DownDESCRIPTION: Floating verses: "Been all around this whole round world... Anyplace I hang my hat/Feels like home to me"; "Left my little girl a'crying"; "Where did you get your high-top shoes" Chorus: "Don't let your deal go down/Till your last (g)old dollar is gone"AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1925 (recording, Charlie Poole) KEYWORDS: gambling nonballad floatingverses FOUND IN: US(SE) REFERENCES (6 citations): BrownIII 301, "High-Topped Shoes" (2 texts, both mixed; "A" is mostly "Pretty Little Foot" with verses from "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" while "B" is a hash of "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down," ""More Pretty Girls Than One," "In the Pines," and others) Cohen/Seeger/Wood, pp. 182-183, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (1 text, 1 tune) Rorrer, p. 70, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down Blues" (1 text) Darling-NAS, p. 285, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (1 text) Silber-FSWB, p. 144, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (1 text) DT, DEALDOWN* RECORDINGS: Fiddlin' John Carson, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (OKeh 45096, 1927) Lake Howard, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (Perfect 13151, 1935) Dick Justice, "Old Black Dog" (Brunswick 395, c. 1929) Kessinger Brothers, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (Brunswick 411, c. 1930) New Lost City Ramblers, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (on NLCR01, NLCRCD1) (NLCR12) W. Lee O'Daniel & the Light Crust Doughboys, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (Vocalion 03471, 1937) Charlie Poole and the North Carolina Ramblers, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down Blues" (Columbia 15038-D, 1925; on CPoole01, CPoole05); (Columbia 15184-D, 1927) Riley Puckett, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (Columbia 15448-D, 1929) (Bluebird B-6067, 1935) Ernest V. Stoneman, "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (OKeh 45054, 1926) Bob Wills & his Texas Playboys, "Don't Let the Deal Go Down" (Vocalion 05282, 1939; Columbia 37739, 1947) CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "In the Pines" (words) ALTERNATE TITLES: Last Gold Dollar High Top Shoes Notes: The phrase "let your deal go down" refers to the Georgia Skin Game, a card game popular among gamblers in the first half of the 20th century. - PJS File: CSW182 Go to the Ballad Search form The Ballad Index Copyright 2003 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. |
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03 Aug 03 - 06:10 PM (#996085) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Murray MacLeod I like the way you align the chords with the lyrics Joe, many of us would like to know how to do that. Harvey Andrews was asking about it a few days ago. btw, On the first line of the chorus, the chord printed as F should of course be a G. Murray |
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03 Aug 03 - 06:45 PM (#996098) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Joe Offer Gee, Murray - I guess I should be pleased that people catch my typographical errors, because that means they actually read what I've posted. I corrected the errant chord. Thanks for pointing that out. The best way to post chords is to use the <pre> preformat tag before and cancelling it </pre> after the section with the chords. You need one tag at the beginning of the entire section and one at the end - not one for every line. This sets a monospaced font, so the spacing comes out right. Line breaks are now automatic, so you don't have to worry about them. You'll find a better explantion here (click), part of the Mudcat HTML Guide PermaThread. -Joe Offer- |
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03 Aug 03 - 07:03 PM (#996104) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: John Hardly freaky. I've just been working this'n out myself. Reispired by the Three Pickers on TV the other night, I dug out my Joel Mabus' "Six Of One" which has a WONDERFUL version in trio with Don Stiernberg (mando) and Peter Ruth (harmonica). (too bad more people don't own this CD -- I think it was the finest folk recording released that year -- Mabus is Mabus and Steirnberg and Ruth are geniuses) Incidentally, I really dislike the lyrics we have on file and I intend to transcribe both the Doc Watson and the Joel Mabus versions and post 'em when I get a minute. They make more sense. Anyway, It's VERY cool done thus: Fingerstyle (faux Travis) B7 I've been all around this E7 whole wide world A7 Way down in Memphis Tennes- D -see B7 Any old place I E7 hang my hat A7 Seems like home to D me. Chorus B7 Don't let your deal go E7 down. A7 Dont let your deal go D down. B7 Don't let your deal go E7 down sweet mama For my A7 last old dollar's D gone. B7 - 7X787X E7 - 0X6757 A7 - (5)0565(0) D -X00775 I think you'll find that, moving a finger here and there, the melody will fall nicely under these basic chord shapes. |
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03 Aug 03 - 07:08 PM (#996107) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Leadfingers Joe You are far more polite than I would be to Supercilious bastards like Maximus.Having been earning money at this music game for thirty years I still do not know ALL the technical side of chords and such. The fact that I Can work out chord runs by listening to a tune does NOT make me feel superior to another muso who cant do that . |
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03 Aug 03 - 08:36 PM (#996148) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: masato sakurai NLCR used the Charlie Poole version (see The New Lost City Ramblers Song Book, pp. 198-99; tune, lyrics, chords, with fiddle intro). "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" (Riley Puckett) can be heard at The Record Lady's All-Time Country Favorites (Real Country Archives Page 3). This tune was used for "I Am Bound for the Promised Land" by Alfred G. Karnes (Recorded in Bristol, TN July 29, 1927. Victor 20840). Do listen to it, at DoveSong (Click here). |
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03 Aug 03 - 08:41 PM (#996150) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Amos Not to push versions but I always played it in the traditional pattern that runs from C==>A7==>D7==>G7==>C Been all around this wide wide world Done most everything P{layed cards with the King and the QUeen And the ace, and the deuce ands the trey. Chorus: Don't let your deal go down, boy, Don't let your deal go down Don't let your deal go down the drain Til my last gold dollar is gone. Where did you get Those high buckle shoes And the dress that you wear so fine? Got my dress from an engineer And my shoes from a driver int he mine. You call me a bum When I'm home with you And it's bad man and tramp when I'm gone. But when I come over the hill With a hundred-dollar buill, Then it's honey, where ya been so long!?? (Cho follows each verse). Regards, A |
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03 Aug 03 - 09:42 PM (#996173) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Mark Clark As pointed out, it has long been the custom in these threads—when responding to an honest question—to provide as much real help as quickly as we can collectively manage. I'm happy to say nearly everyone contributes in that spirit. Although in different keys, each progression posted above is the same relative progression. Using the Roman numeral system and naming chords by the position of their root note on the scale we have VI-II-V-I in every case. There is actually an implied I (tonic) chord just prior to the first word in a verse or chorus. Players often begin with a single-note run from the I chord down to the VI chord. In Joe's example that would be F-E-Eb-D on the forth string of a guitar. And Amos rightly points out that the line is “till your last gold dollar is gone” not old dollar. - Mark |
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03 Aug 03 - 09:47 PM (#996176) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: GUEST,pdq I understand that Don Stiernberg was a master student of Kenneth "Jethro" Burns, playing mandolin. He does "chord style" rhythm guitar on Burn's last two recordings: "Bye Bye Blues" (Acoustic Disc) ACD-26 and "Swing Low, Sweet Mandolin" ACD-15. "Genius" certainly applies to Burns. Bill Clifton does "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" as "You Don't Think About Me When I'm Gone". His version is neo-bluegrass, with more verses than the version posted. |
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03 Aug 03 - 11:48 PM (#996213) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Amos Yeah, yer right, Mark -- I got thrown off by the D==>G transition before I realized it was based in the key of F. Thus it is, actually a circle of fifths sequence, of the sort used in many ragtime and old-time and jug-band numbers in varying degrees -- examples which come to mind are "Five Foot Two", "Keep On Trucking", "Walk Right In and Set Right Down" and dozens of others not at my fingertips right now. Just as Maximus so unkindly pointed out. A |
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04 Aug 03 - 09:37 AM (#996406) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Peter T. (1) Thanks for the Mudcat spirit, gang, alive and well. Hope Gerard didn't flee after the first reply. (2) By coincidence, I am learning the circle of fifths on the banjo (including this song) and Amos' short list intrigued me. Can anyone supply a list of old time songs or whatever that use this? Not exhaustive, but, well, a few more. My contribution: "I Got Rhythm". yours, Peter T. |
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04 Aug 03 - 09:59 AM (#996422) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Amos Take It Slow and Easy (If Ya Wanna Get Along With Me) SFO Bay Blues (in part) Euphoria (I'll add more as they come to me). A |
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04 Aug 03 - 10:24 AM (#996446) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Amos When the war breaks out in Mexico, I'm a gonna go to Montreal Let's Go Fishin' Ragged but Right.... |
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04 Aug 03 - 10:34 AM (#996457) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Peter T. My hero. yours, Peter T. (What is this song "when the War Breaks out in Mexico? Never heard that....) |
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04 Aug 03 - 12:01 PM (#996522) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Mark Clark Ella Speed (here too) is usually played to the subject progression. The progressin also shows up in Bully of the Town and Lead Belly's Salty Dog as well as hundreds of ragtime tunes. - Mark |
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04 Aug 03 - 01:25 PM (#996552) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: GUEST,pdq Amos: If you don't have the Greenbrier Boy's "Ragged But Right" you ain't got the best version. It goes I-V-I-IV-I-V more/less. Mr. Clark's "implied tonic" with the song actually starting in VI helps me and other musical-theory-impaired people a lot. Thanks. More music and less politics. Yeah! |
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04 Aug 03 - 02:36 PM (#996601) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Gerard Thank you for the chords!! |
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04 Aug 03 - 11:50 PM (#996844) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Marion What does "don't let your deal go down" mean? Marion |
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05 Aug 03 - 01:06 AM (#996878) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: Mark Clark When you're the dealer in the card game—when you have the deal—you have “the dealer's advantage.” So don't let your deal go down or don't lose the deal as long as you have even one gold dollar to bet. - Mark |
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11 Apr 06 - 03:47 PM (#1715375) Subject: RE: Chords Req.: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: bluerabbit10 Been looking for these for long time...I really like the B7, E7 rendition.....thanks, Verne Garrison |
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08 Oct 12 - 11:06 PM (#3416752) Subject: RE: Origins: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: GUEST As a noobie musician but somehow running a/n ukulele club and trying to get a dozen or so new tunes every month to club, I can't tell you how appreciative I am of this forum. Thanks and good on all a ya! |
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09 Oct 12 - 05:22 AM (#3416811) Subject: RE: Origins: Don't Let Your Deal Go Down From: GUEST,Roger Knowles My entire life has been spent attempting to not let my deal descend. It's sometimes a challenge. |