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09 Aug 03 - 09:43 PM (#999515) Subject: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: mg If you are on the grid, I am curious how many kilowatts people use per month per person...I'm doing about 8 in the summer and 13 in the winter. I guess that is a daily average, not a monthly total. mg |
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09 Aug 03 - 10:00 PM (#999521) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: GUEST,.gargoyle 948 July 2003 5.26per person per day 877 July 2002 5.66 per person per day 242 July 2001 3.9 per person per day
Sincerely,
If you ask for a MONTH - why did you change to DAILY?
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09 Aug 03 - 10:57 PM (#999534) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: Jeri 6.5 summer 11.5 winter I don't have air conditioning and have oil heat. |
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09 Aug 03 - 11:02 PM (#999537) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: Bee-dubya-ell Our average use in summer is around 60 KWH per day (1800 KWH per month) which sounds high, but that includes firing our electric pottery kiln an average of three times a week at about 100 KWH per firing. Our wintertime usage is lower because we heat with wood but we haven't yet found a wood-burning air conditioner for summertime. By the way, what are rates like where you are? Our rate with our rural electric co-op is slightly less than eight cents per KWH before all the taxes and franchise fees etc are added in - a little less than ten cents per KWH including them. Bruce |
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09 Aug 03 - 11:33 PM (#999549) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: mack/misophist No idea. The annual average here is about 70º. The problem is that I prefer 85º and my wife likes 45º. We're probably low, though. |
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10 Aug 03 - 02:28 AM (#999565) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: GUEST Wood burning kilns can produce some beautiful products - and they can be catalytic. |
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10 Aug 03 - 12:25 PM (#999705) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: NicoleC I usually use about 4-5 in the winter (gas heat) and 10 in the summer. Most days during the summer hit 95 here and 105-110 is particularly unusual. This past month has been blisteringly hot and even with the thermostat on 85 I hit 15 KWH per day. One thing about moving back to So Cal -- the summers are a LOT cooler! |
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10 Aug 03 - 12:51 PM (#999723) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: Peter T. North Americans: 6 hundred gallons of gasoline per year per person. yours, Peter T. |
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11 Aug 03 - 05:25 AM (#1000121) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: gnu In Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada, with electric forced air furnace, for a modest, 40 year old bungalo, keeping the heat at a low 15C on average, February 2003 was about 1200 kWh above February 2002 which was about 2800 kWh. No specific figures, just a two year graph... May to November about 900/mo and December to April about 2500/mo. The surprise to me is only a 25% difference for February between the two years because the amount of complaining about this past winter was up at least 250%. |
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11 Aug 03 - 07:43 PM (#1000531) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: Mr Red Well I just bought a new PC case and it says on the PSU that the unit is capable of delivering 350 watts but look at the usage and you see it is burning-up 1 Kwatt ( = 35% efficiency!!!!) So thats 6 KWH today. |
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12 Aug 03 - 01:34 PM (#1000938) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: Ebbie I live alone in an approximately 6,000 square foot house museum, heated by oil. Our hydro-generated electricity (two kitchens, one washer and dryer) accumulates at .0710 per KWH. Last year when I was 'down south' (hey, even Minnesota is down south to us) all of October, the kwh usage was just under 15; the highest was last January at 25 kwh. |
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12 Aug 03 - 02:01 PM (#1000955) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: katlaughing We're averaging about 13kw per day electric which, in a summer of record high temps, means almost continuous running of a swamp cooler and a one-room a/c, plus an oxygen concentrator, which is always running. |
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12 Aug 03 - 03:18 PM (#1001009) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: GUEST,mg Wow..I thought I was doing pretty well..I don't have the heat on most of the year, I don't have air conditioning at all..take a very quick shower per day, might have the stove or oven on a few minutes per day...don't know how I could get it down much more..maybe I'll look at the bill again. mg |
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13 Aug 03 - 12:28 PM (#1001303) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: Mrs.Duck I we are talking electricity we use around 14 kw a day. Not much variation in Seasons as we don't heat with electric. According to the last estimate for gas we are using 75KW a day which seems a bit high so will have to get that checked. |
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10 Feb 05 - 10:05 AM (#1404531) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: GUEST,vici08@aol.com how many kilowatts do you use per week for a gas stove?thanks buds |
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10 Feb 05 - 10:37 AM (#1404559) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: Amos Definition: A common unit used in measuring power. Power is defined as the flow of energy over time. A watt is equivalent to 3.41 Btu/hour or one joule per second. Where an "e" follows the unit (as in kwe or Mwe), the watt is in the form of electrical energy. Where a "t" follows the unit (as in kwt or Mwt), the watt is in the form of thermal energy. A |
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10 Feb 05 - 11:14 AM (#1404605) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: GUEST,Joe_F I seem to run about 250 kWh a month, with no clear seasonal pattern. That's a bit over 8 kWh a day, for an average load of, oh, 350 W. That doesn't include heat & hot water, which come from an oil furnace and are included in the rent. I live in Massachusetts & don't have air conditioning. --- Joe Fineman joe_f@verizon.net ||: Life is a jest, and all things show it -- :|| ||: I thought so once, and now I know it. :|| |
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10 Feb 05 - 01:05 PM (#1404786) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: JohnInKansas Amos - et. al. The "postscript" t and e are used, so far as I've seen, mostly by utility services where they want to indicate what charges apply to your electrical service and what ones apply to "other fuels." In my area the other fuel is usually natural gas. Until a couple of months ago, we received a combined gas/electric billing where such notations were used. In engineering usage, it is seldom necessary (or useful) to make such distinctions. In US usage, as an example, it is still common to state an automobile engine's capacity in "horsepower," since that's what the public "understands," (using "understands" loosely) but the International Standard according to SAE International specifies that the power an engine produces is to be given in kilowatts in all journal publications. No subscripts or postscripts needed. Power is power, and the units don't matter as long as they're used consistently and correctly. The original question, "how many kilowatts" is obviously meaningless. My home electrical service is rated at 200 amperes, 110 volt rms, so I can use 200A*110V = 22 KW. The "answer" to "how many kilowatts do you use" could be 22KW, or I could look up my "peak" power consumption and perhaps report that I use some lesser "peak rate." If I used power at the maximum available level of 22 KW for 24 hours per day, my energy consumption would be 22*24 = 528 KWH per day. Theoretically, in a 30 day month, my electric utility "offers" me the ability to consume energy of up to 15.8 MWH each month. It will be assumed that those who reported KW consumption actually meant KWH consumption. The distinction really should be respected. My most recent billing for electricity shows a 33 day period and claims 1,916 KWH (1.9 MWH) used, with an "energy charge" of $134.87 (US), or $0.07039/KWH. As far as I can tell, this is about double our normal usage, with the difference due to nearly constant running of the blower in our gas furnace. Temperatures during this billing period were typically 15 to 20 F (8 - 11 C) below normals for our "coldest time of the year." All our heat, including hot water, is from natural gas. The billing for nearly the same period shows a consumption of 35.700 Mcf, with a gas charge of $7.2687/Mcf. While there are limits for the energy content of a cubic foot of gas, the billing gives no indication of "which end of the limits" were applicable during this period, so a direct conversion to equivalent KWH is not easily accessible. This billing was about 6x our normal/average monthly rate - due to the weather conditions during the same 33 day period. Our utility billing, prior to a couple of months ago, included both gas and electric on a single bill. The company has been split up, and the CEO and 4 or 5 other executives are under indictment for a few minor offenses like fraud, extortion, etc. While I could go back through the bills to find the separate charges for gas and for electric service, and for amounts consumed, I probably won't. I can report, from my cash accounts, that our total for calendar year 2004, for gas, electric, and sewer and water service, was $4,101.00, or about $340/month. The house is single level (very small basement under an add-on room), late 1940s construction (with numerous add-ons), about 3,800 sq ft, reasonably insulated, with a few known "leaks" mostly covered by hanging drapes pending window repairs. We have an "irreducible minimum" for electrical consumption due to the two main desktop computers, 3 printers, and scanner, that are on 24x7. For "security reasons" the house is never left completely dark, so our typical lighting is equivalent to about 6 20W fluorescent units, commonly on 24x7. (When one light goes off, another goes on.) All lighting, with the exception of a few fixtures seldom used, has been converted to fluorescents either by replacing fixtures or by using the "screw-in" fluorescent replacement lamps. The one exception is a single 300W tungsten-halide reading lamp used intermittently. Cooking is on an electric stove, but is not heavily used by the two of us, although our old teeth - and lack thereof - cause us to do a lot of "slow cooking at low heat" to make stuff tender. Winter gas heat and summer electric air conditioning usually trade off about evenly, although the recent low temperatures have caused both to be higher than normal for the season. (The same electric blower is used for both furnace heat and air conditioning.) John |
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10 Feb 05 - 01:33 PM (#1404814) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: GUEST,Larry K I have a geothermal heating and cooling stystem. As part of my job I chart my kw usage for both electricity and geothermal (heating and cooling) for my 2700 square foot house and 1200 square foot basement. During the past 5 years I have averaged about 5,500 kw per year or 458 per month or 15 per day. My geothermal system has averaged 17,000 kw per year or 1,400 per month or 47 per day. My total gas and electric bills have averaged $1300- $1,500 per year. We keep our house at 71 degegrees in the winter and 73 degrees in the summer. Not bad for a 1968 Pulte home with only an R5 in the walls and a cement basement. Of course I have made improvements to the home (low e windows, 10" blowm cellulose in attic, 2" foam boards in band joist, caulk, weather stripping etc) that brought it up to a 5 star energy star house with an 86.5 HERS rating. |
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11 Feb 05 - 07:34 AM (#1405692) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: kendall 405 kw. per month. Almost twice what it was before when I was single. The bill says, $47.12. |
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11 Feb 05 - 02:57 PM (#1406210) Subject: RE: BS: how many kilowatts do you use From: robomatic A little bit of basic: Kilowatts (KW) are the amount of power you are using at any instant of time. A horsepower is roughly 760 Watts, or 0.76 KW. Yes, if you have a 200 horsepower automobile you have the ability to generate 152 KW A typical house gets by on roughly 5KW on average. This allows for averaging out your electric cooking load and night-time lights out but not your home lathe nor sauna. Kilowatt HOURS is what you pay your electric utility for, measured by a meter at your domicile. So, if you analogize electricity as a flow of (current) past or through a point (where your electric devices are), you might tap a lot of flow for a small amount of time, or a little flow for a long time. Imagine the water filling a basin. You're paying for the amount of water you've used. As a rule of thumb, using electricity as a heat source costs the most. This includes air conditioners which pump heat outside your house in the summer. This includes your refrigerator and your electric clothes dryer. Using electricity for music or lighting is a lower level of use. Using electricity for your computer is in this middle area. Note that the high performance computers and CPUs and cathode ray monitors are running hotter, requiring cooling, etc. Your laptop uses a high efficiency CPU which may run slower or be able to turn itself off, and an LED screen. This uses a fraction of the power as your desktop tower monitor. (I use a low power unit for my internet use, so I don't use much more than a laptop). The lowest level is the small amount of power required in the thermocouples of your water heater and gas stoves, wired-in smoke and CO detectors, and night lights. Think of it like: Heaters and air conditioners: 1000's of watts Computers, hifis, TVs: 100's of watts Night lights, background use: 10's of watts Pretty much anything that plugs in has information stamped on it telling you how much wattage it requires. When I worked for the state our rule of thumb was that if you buy your own generator and fuel it and use that power you'll pay about half a buck for each Kilowatt Hour. Across the US i've seen rates from 5 cents to 15 cents per KWH. Getting back to cars for the moment: If you wanted an electric car to take the place of that 200 HP vehicle in the driveway, you would NOT be able to put a 200 HP electric motor in your car. Electric motors are way too heavy. But you don't need to, because of the way they work, electric motors generate much more torque than internal combustion engines, so for comparable performance you don't need comparable horsepower. A 100 horsepower electric motor will provide awesome vehicle performance but will still be very heavy. |