23 Aug 03 - 10:06 PM (#1007169) Subject: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer From: masato sakurai Does anyone know the name of the tune inserted in the middle? "Oklahoma Mixer" probably is the best known American folk dance in Japan. Most people (I mean Japanese) under 60 know this dance. The tunes adopted are almost always a slowed down version of "Turkey in the Straw" along with this unknown melody in the middle. Oklahoma Mixer (midi) (From this page)~Masato |
24 Aug 03 - 09:35 AM (#1007297) Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer From: Sorcha Sorry, Masato, I don't recognize it, but it sounds almost like they have taken Turkey and switched all the sharps for naturals. We do this with Soldier's Joy after 3-4 repeats and call it Soldier's Sorrow. Not sure though. |
24 Aug 03 - 10:08 AM (#1007310) Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer From: Jeri It sounds a little like Nic's Russian Tune (MIDI/JC's Tunefinder). It definitely sound Russian to me. |
25 Aug 03 - 06:39 AM (#1007706) Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer From: masato sakurai Thank you, Sorcha and Jeri, for trying. Sounds Russian? Might be. There's an MP3 at a Korean site. The interpolated tune, which is also anonymous to me, is different but somewhat similar. ~Masato |
25 Aug 03 - 01:46 PM (#1007862) Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer From: GUEST http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=oklahoma+mixer&btnG=Google+Search |
26 Aug 03 - 01:31 PM (#1008457) Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer From: masato sakurai I think I've checked almost every site Google hits. Some of the tunes mentioned at THIS PAGE are not the one. |
26 Aug 03 - 08:48 PM (#1008650) Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer From: JohnInKansas My first though on listening to the the middle part was that it sounds "classical," or at least "Broadway." The first and third "Turkey in the Straw" parts are harmonized about as one would expect for tunes picked up from folk or "pop" performers, but the middle part sounds more like someone had a "professional score" to pull the harmonies (and modality) from. The obvious jump is that perhaps it's from a movie or broadway musical soundtrack. I did re-run my movie tape of Rogers & Hammerstein's Oklahoma movie version on the off chance it might be a "minor character theme" but it is obviously not derived from anything there. Even "Turkey in the Straw" doesn't happen in that one. The tune sounds "very familiar" but I can't figure out an Oklahoma association. It just isn't in a style that I can pin to anything that the local Okies brag about, or to any of the typical "folk" or "cowboy" traditions of the area. I do seem to "hear" a similarity to some tunes/songs that I associate with a particular campground picker, so I've cut the middle part out and made a separate midi to play for him. Perhaps he'll be able to recognize it, or at least name a "style," genre, or era that it suggests. It will be at least a month, though, before I'll have a chance to try it out on him and get back. It is an "intriguing" tune. John |
26 Aug 03 - 09:19 PM (#1008668) Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer From: masato sakurai Thanks, John. Probably it's not an Oklahoma dance at all. The FOLK DANCE FEDERATION OF CALIFORNIA page linked to above says: This dance was taught by Rev. Larry Eisenberg at the Pacific Recreation Laboratory School, Asilomar. California, September 1947. This progressive type dance is popular in the Southwest, particularly Texas. The title "Oklahoma Mixer" is used here because the present version was learned in Norman, Oklahoma. |
30 Aug 03 - 06:30 AM (#1010702) Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer From: masato sakurai I'll post the tune just in case the midi sites disappear. X:1 T:Unknown (Oklahoma Mixer No. 2) M:4/4 L:1/8 K:G E2 E3/2F/ G3/2F/ E3/2G/|F2 F3/2^D/ B,4|B,3/2B,/ ^DF AA GF|B6z2| e2 B3/2e/ dc B2|c2 FG A2 c2|B3/2c/ B3/2A/ G2E2|F6z2| E3/2^D/ E3/2F/ G3/2A/ G3/2F/|E4 z3/2B/ e3/2d/|c3/2B/ c3/2d/ e3/2e/ d3/2c/| B4z3/2B/ e3/2g/|f4z3/2B/ ^d3/2f/|e4z3/2 B/ G3/2E/|GG2G A2^A2|B6z2| G3/2G/ G3/E/ F2 G3/2F/|E4 z3/2B/ e3/2d/|c3/2B/ c3/2d/ e3/2e/ d3/2c/| B4z3/2 B/e3/2g/|f4 z3/2B/^d3/2f/|e4z3/2B/G3/2E/|GG2E F2GF|E6z2|| |