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Tune/lyr/chords Req: the tattie howkers

23 Sep 03 - 06:22 PM (#1023884)
Subject: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: tuggy mac

where can the abve be found on midi anyone please


23 Sep 03 - 06:33 PM (#1023892)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: Joe Offer

Hi, Tuggie Mac - That one is here (click) in the Digital Tradition - but I admit it was a little hard to find.
-Joe Offer-


24 Sep 03 - 01:09 AM (#1024121)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: LadyJean

The friend I learned it from sang it to "Wha Wouldnae Fit for Charlie". She learned it from a former tatie houwker. She also learned:
       "Hi hi the tattie houkers gang tae the harvest ball.
         Some of them have big fat asses, some of them have none at   all."


24 Sep 03 - 02:36 AM (#1024135)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: mouldy

For 42nd, use "tattie houkers". My dad used to start to sing that one every time anyone mentioned the Black Watch, aka 42nd Highlanders!
He said that a tattie houker was a potato-peeling person. Needless to say, he was in another regiment - I don't think the Black Watch themselves sing the "tattie houker" version!

The tune is their march and quite well known. I can hum it, play it, and have even used it once for a dance with our NW side, but I can't remember its name. (I always call it "Tattie Houkers"). It is also used as the tune for the Eynsham morris dance "The March Past" according to the notes on "Plain Capers".

The website for the regiment may at least be able to provide the name for the tune.

Andrea


24 Sep 03 - 04:36 AM (#1024168)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: Scabby Douglas

A "tattie-howker" or "houker" is someone who works lifting potatoes. My colleague at work here, who is from an agricultural background, further asserts that it specifically refers to the removal of the tatties from the soil after it has been dug.

It is hard and back-breaking work.

Which must be why the practice of recruiting schoolkids to do it was widespread. In the North-East of Scotland, the Autumn mid-term break from school is widely known as the "Tattie Holidays". I get this from my brother who has lived up that direction for the last 15 years.

It really has nothing to do with potato-peelings - wholesale or retail.

Matt McGinn uses "howkin'" in "Coorie Doon" and also in "Manyura Manyah" to refer to coal-mining...


Cheers


Steven


24 Sep 03 - 05:30 AM (#1024193)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: tuggy mac

thanks to joe offer for tattie howkers.

would love the lyrics from mudcatter lady janes version above,
please anyone.


24 Sep 03 - 05:31 AM (#1024194)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: tuggy mac

OOps sorry ! I meant lady jean.


24 Sep 03 - 05:40 AM (#1024199)
Subject: Lyr Req: tattie howkers funny version
From: tuggy mac

Mudcatter lady jean sent the first verse of the funny version ,which go"s hi hi the tattie howkers gang to the harvest ball

some of them had big fat arses some of them had none at all. can anyone provide the rest please.

Cheers
Tuggy mac.


24 Sep 03 - 05:43 AM (#1024200)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: John MacKenzie

Howkin' Tatties, Howkin' Coal, or Howkin' winkies oot thir shells wi a peen. It's hooking and hauling really.
Giok


24 Sep 03 - 05:48 AM (#1024204)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: tuggy mac

or howkin a big salmon giok?


24 Sep 03 - 05:57 AM (#1024211)
Subject: RE: Chord Req: tattie howkers funny version
From: tuggy mac

?


24 Sep 03 - 08:35 AM (#1024274)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: the tattie howkers tune
From: John MacKenzie

Only after dark Mac!!
Giok


24 Sep 03 - 12:46 PM (#1024365)
Subject: RE: Tune/lyr/chords Req: the tattie howkers
From: Joe Offer

Hi, Lady Jean - up above, you posted partial lyrics to a parody, and Tuggy Mac asked if you could post the whole thing. You also mentioned "Wha Wouldnae Fit for Charlie" - could you post that one for me, please?
Is the tune different from the one we have in the Digital Tradition (click to play)?
Thanks.
-Joe Offer-


24 Sep 03 - 12:57 PM (#1024370)
Subject: RE: Tune/lyr/chords Req: the tattie howkers
From: Jim McLean

I think Lady Jean means 'Wha widna fecht for Chairlie'?


24 Sep 03 - 01:23 PM (#1024388)
Subject: RE: Tune/lyr/chords Req: the tattie howkers
From: ard mhacha

In the north of Ireland in October we would have skipped a couple of weeks of school to go Tattie Hokin`. Ten bob [shillings] a week was a god-send in the late 1940s. Ard Mhacha.


24 Sep 03 - 02:20 PM (#1024429)
Subject: RE: Tune/lyr/chords Req: the tattie howkers
From: tuggy mac

thanks every one.

no chords as of yet though?

All the best.
tuggy mac