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02 Oct 03 - 10:50 AM (#1027983) Subject: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: GUEST,Claymore Below is a DRAFT Set List for the Waltz Class at the 2003 FSGW Getaway. It is a complilation of tunes used from last years class with the remainder made up of waltz tunes commonly played at Contra Dances in the Washington DC area. What I am hoping to achieve is to create a dialog amonst those musicians who are most likely to play in the Open Band during the Waltz class. As usual, the fiddlers will have the final say, but most of these tunes are commonly available, especially in the Waltz Books I, II, and III by Bill Matthiesen. Please note that several of the tenative back-up players can back up almost any waltz which has a good lead fiddler. So if some of the fiddlers feel strongly about a given waltz not mentioned, bring it on. Once this set list has been discussed in this thread, I plan to create a number of set copies of most, if not all of the finalized waltzes. Remember that the class is now scheduled for one hour, which should occupy about 7-10 waltzes, so we are not trying to create the all time MudCat list of favorite waltzes; just a set list we can all play for about one hour at the Getaway. Thanks, Don Waltz Set List: Ashokan Farewell Far Away Fanny Power/Young Jane/Gentle Maiden Give Me Your Hand Innishere Judy and Jims Wedding Metsakkukkia Midnight on the Water Norwegian Waltz Planxty Irwin Rose By The Door Sheebeg and Sheemore Star of the County Down Sunday River waltz Tennesee Waltz Two Rivers Utpick Waltz Valse des Jeune Filles Waltz Across Texas |
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02 Oct 03 - 11:21 AM (#1028012) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Jeri "Utpick Waltz" - you mean "Ookpik" ? I know a bunch of them, the rest I'll try to find in books or at JC's Tunefinder. I can probably sight read at waltz speed. |
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02 Oct 03 - 12:10 PM (#1028057) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: GUEST,Claymore Jeri, I used the spelling in the Waltz Book, but I have seen it both ways. Also, If you need music for any of these, Rita has said that if I fax her the sheets, she can make them available on-line (somehow...?). Finally, I plan to make up booklets of sheet music for the musicians, and bring them to the Getaway. |
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03 Oct 03 - 03:27 PM (#1029088) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: GUEST,Claymore Refresh... |
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04 Oct 03 - 11:53 PM (#1029831) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: GUEST,PaulineL Count me in with the waltz fiddlers! I can probably play most of the tunes by ear but I'd appreciate written copies, if possible. I like all the tunes on your set list except for Ashcan Waltz. I know it's popular, but it makes me wince so badly. Would anyone consider a substitute? Some of Kate Wolf's songs in 3/4 time, like "Carolina Pines," work really well as sweet country waltzes. |
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05 Oct 03 - 06:05 PM (#1030108) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: GUEST,Claymore Pauline, The set list is merely a list of the possible tunes we would play. Given that the class is only one hour, I expect we would get to maybe 12 -15 waltzes out of the 18 listed above. Since the Ashokan is primarily a solo piece, we may have one fiddler who really wants to do it, and that would give other memebers of the Open Band a short break. (Though if there is a waltz you really want to do as in "In the Pines", I really think we can work it out.) Thanks, Don |
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05 Oct 03 - 06:36 PM (#1030122) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Ferrara I'll repeat some of my comments from the Contra dance thread.... Please contribute your suggestions, as Pauline did above. That way you'll all feel that it's "your" workshop. On the other hand, if a song isn't generally known, it may not work for the group. But if you really want to do it, and can provide the music to the rest of the group, and the others agree, go for it. My two cents worth -- which may be worth less than that -- is that the more familiar the tunes are, the better. Myself I'm not familiar with most of the above. But then I'm not much of an instrumentalist and because my zither prefers a-minus-diminished-retrograde tuning, I can't jam with it anyhoo. BTW are you all aware that Dottie Hurley's "Three-Quarter Time" sing-around will have plenty of room for instrumental accompaniment? She suggested it after last year's Getaway. It's going to be a sing and jam and dance, we hope. Oh. And see the Contra thread for my comments on getting together to practice if you want to. Rita |
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05 Oct 03 - 07:44 PM (#1030169) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Jeri Southwind. I LOVE southwind. We've managed to not run Ashoken Farewell into the ground, or maybe we did and it's had a chance to rest. I'm not too awful worried about faking most of these with dots, but the contra sets have me a bit worried. Will go over there. |
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05 Oct 03 - 08:12 PM (#1030186) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: GUEST,Claymore Great suggestion, Jeri. I actually do a majestic "South Wind" on the autoharp. Add some bottom from Gutbucketeer, and a tin whistle bridge, and we will own the piece... |
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05 Oct 03 - 09:17 PM (#1030206) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Susan A-R I know many of the waltzes, and do some nice harmonies on many of them (two fiddle work makes me smile.) Looks like fun, and it also looks like I'll be learning a few new ones. Nice mix. Susan |
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06 Oct 03 - 03:10 AM (#1030285) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: PaulineL An advantage or disadvantage for an instrumentalist playing for dance is that each tune is repeated so many times. You can play harmonies and jam or get bored. Susan and/or other folks, would you like to do some "two fiddle work" with me? Carolina Pines, something from Playford (some real pretty tunes with great harmonies possible) or a tune you suggest? Anybody want to jam with me on the Blue Danube? It's easy, fun, corny, and extremely waltz-able. I can provide sheet music if necessary. |
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06 Oct 03 - 02:28 PM (#1030709) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: KathWestra I'll be dancing, not playing, but Bob McQuillen's Amanda and Margaret come to mind (along with just about any waltz Bob ever wrote) as lovely, lovely things to dance to. If dancers get a vote, make mind McQuillen--with an edge to the two aforementioned ladies' waltzes! Kathy |
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06 Oct 03 - 11:00 PM (#1030996) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Susan A-R Pauline, Sounds like fun. I find that even if I don't know a tune, I can often find a harmony. In fact, I have had to make a rule for myself (which I may break next weekend) to learn the tune before I start to play with harmony. I'd be delighted to do two fiddle stuff. It does make me smile. The grin is, in fact, pretty silly looking, or so the guys in jam session tell me. Susan |
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07 Oct 03 - 07:31 AM (#1031149) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Jeri I'm in the same boat, Susan - I'll forget learning tunes and just sail into the harmonies. I know most of Margaret's Waltz. Don't know Amanda's. I know Carolina Pines in my head, but have never tried playing it. What key do you do it in, Pauline? G? Ron Davies is co-leader. So far, that's 3 fiddles and a viola that we KNOW about! |
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07 Oct 03 - 08:30 PM (#1031512) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Ferrara Well, and Dottie Hurley may very well be there on ukelele. There will probably be musicians who want to play who don't read Mudcat, so Claymore, if you would talk to Charlie Friday night and Saturday at breakfast time and make an announcement please? Let people know it's an open band and that you have playlists etc? |
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08 Oct 03 - 01:59 PM (#1031890) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: KathWestra Would be good to get a piano player or a couple of guitars to provide a strong rhythm foundation for this. It's very hard to dance to fiddles (or treble instruments) alone. Charlie making an announcement would be a good thing! Is Joel Bailes going to be there? He's a good musician AND a wonderful dancer (we should get him to lead a jitterbug/lindy/swingdance workshop sometime). KW |
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08 Oct 03 - 03:16 PM (#1031915) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: GUEST,Claymore Kath, I have plenty of experience backing up waltzes on guitar and occasionally on banjo, lute or autoharp, and last year Gutbucketeer provided a wonderful bottom to the mix. As I mentioned above, what I am planning to do is create a notebook of sheet music for the above mentioned waltzes and if you would bring about 8-10 copies of the waltzes you have mentioned above, we will have a jam before we are scheduled to do the class, and rapidly work out the ones that sound the best. We may have some wind instruments or a hammered dulcimer or harp that would care to join in, and so we will work it all out, before the actual class. As Rita has mentioned, I will do a series of announcements to promote the waltz and contra workshops, and if the fiddlers are happy, the rest of us will be too. |
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08 Oct 03 - 03:25 PM (#1031919) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Sorcha I won't be there, but I love Margaret's Waltz pref. in A Maj. |
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08 Oct 03 - 05:41 PM (#1031978) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Noreen Ooo Kath, if you're still looking for a piano player to vamp along (I'm a ceili band pianist, brought up with the Liverpool Ceili Band) I'd be delighted to have a go. Don't want to step on anyone's toes though if there's anyone else more qualified... Will there be a piano?? |
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08 Oct 03 - 05:49 PM (#1031983) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Jeri YEEHAA!..oh, 'scuse me. Yes, there's usually a piano there. Used it as a pitch pipe a couple of years ago. Hmmm... The Vamp of Ramblewood. |
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08 Oct 03 - 07:00 PM (#1032017) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Noreen *grin* I'll pack the little black dress then... Fallink in love again, neffer wanted toooooooo.... |
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09 Oct 03 - 05:12 PM (#1032679) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: GUEST,Claymore Jeri, Noreen, I just came back form Ramblewood last week (doing the sound during Scottish Weekend for the Scottish Country Dance set). There was not a piano up at the main dance hall, though I seem to recall one back at the room adjacent to the dining hall. The SW folks rent a freshly tuned piano for their music. It would be well if someone could bring an electric piano for the Getaway, and I could route it into the sound system which will be there for the concerts. And yes it could also provide some background for the Contra Dance... |
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09 Oct 03 - 05:30 PM (#1032682) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Bill D last year Joel had a big electric piano there..but there 'was' also one in the gym...so, I don't know.... |
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09 Oct 03 - 06:12 PM (#1032696) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Jeri I was thinking of the one in the gym (every year I've been going), where the contra workshop was held, although I think the electric piano was what was played. The upright one sure was good for a hot late night blues jam a couple of years ago! |
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09 Oct 03 - 06:34 PM (#1032702) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Noreen Sorry but I can't bring an electric piano with me from England. But if one should appear and be in need of playing... :0) |
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10 Oct 03 - 03:15 PM (#1033310) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: PaulineL Fellow fiddlers: Jamming is one of the greatest highs for me. I, too, enjoy playing tunes I don't know by harmonizing. Sometimes my creativity is best when unhampered by knowledge of the melody. However, at least one of us should know and play the melody. I play Carolina Pines in D but I could do G as well. In fact, if given my choice, I play most tunes in D or G, fiddlers' keys. I'd love to harmonize with other fiddlers, in the waltz workshop or elsewhere. Please PM me if you're interested. (I think I know how that works.) |
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10 Oct 03 - 06:54 PM (#1033419) Subject: RE: Waltz Set List - 2003 FSGW Getaway From: Ferrara Apparently the camp must move a piano into the gym for us, because we do have one there every year (and they get it tuned....) Last year, Joel Bailes and Rick Fielding jammed for hours, Joel on piano, Rick on guitar, I don't know who else was there. Joel is scheduled to do an hour and a half jam, around the piano, y'all come... Saturday in the gym at 4:30 until ??? I've laid out the schedule, "just" have to type it in and move it to our web page. Working on it.... WORD tables are a pain. |