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15 Oct 03 - 06:55 AM (#1035985) Subject: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Wolfgang Maybe someone likes this: Today's article in the online SPIEGEL about the cabale in the British Conservative Party is titled: Ab, Duncan The first obvious reading is '(Fuck) off, Duncan' Only some time later I realised that when I speak it, it is phonologically identical to 'abdanken' and that means 'resign'. Wolfgang |
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15 Oct 03 - 07:20 AM (#1036001) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Steve Parkes That's better than most punning headlines I've seen in British newspapers! What's the German for "gotcha!"? Steve |
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15 Oct 03 - 07:36 AM (#1036012) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: McGrath of Harlow The neatest comment on this whole thing is in Simon Hoggart's parliamentary sketch in today's Guardian: "Both main parties hold different views on the top issue of the day: the Tories want to dump Iain Duncan Smith as soon as possible, and Labour is desperate for him to stay. However, both have to pretend they believe the opposite. This is known as politics." |
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15 Oct 03 - 09:46 AM (#1036093) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie Wo ist Der Spiegel online? |
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15 Oct 03 - 10:35 AM (#1036135) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Wolfgang Der SPIEGEL online Some things work better in one language and others better in another. There is no really good equivalent to 'gotcha'. The best I can think of is 'erwischt' but that's not really good. Wolfgang |
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15 Oct 03 - 11:47 AM (#1036173) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Micca Wolfgang, Maybe both parties regard Iain Duncan Smith At election time as a gift, The Conservatives in the German sense of the word!!! Labour in the English sense!!!! |
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15 Oct 03 - 11:48 AM (#1036174) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie Danke Wolfgang. :-) Doesn't Aha! work in just about any language? |
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16 Oct 03 - 02:28 AM (#1036570) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Wilfried Schaum gotcha = erwischt I think Wolfgang is wrong here: his translation hits the nail in everyday speech, and it was the first solution I thought of when reading the question, too. Wilfried |
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16 Oct 03 - 04:00 PM (#1036984) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie So, in Germany, do you just holler "Erwischt!"? |
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16 Oct 03 - 04:06 PM (#1036989) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Micca No, KimC you take a firm grip on "der Eier" and then holler "Erwischt!":o) |
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16 Oct 03 - 04:09 PM (#1036992) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Wolfgang 'Gotcha' is broader than 'erwischt' Wolfgang |
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17 Oct 03 - 10:54 AM (#1037298) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Wilfried Schaum Kim C - don't follow Micca's advice grabbing someone's balls before hollering erwischt! It's not only unusual over here, it also could endanger your health more than smoking. :<( Wilfried |
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17 Oct 03 - 11:43 AM (#1037328) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Metchosin with a bit of poor spelling and a rip from Rocky and Bullwinkle, you might claim that Arnold was now Obergropenführer in the little State of Badgeschmelt. Thanks for the advice Wilfried, I was given a pass in 2nd year German in highschool, upon the promise I would never study the language again....and quite rightly too. When I read Micca's comment, I thought he was referring to one's ears. LOL |
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18 Oct 03 - 05:04 AM (#1037643) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Wilfried Schaum Metchosin - In your place I wouldn't despair and try a 3rd year German. It's a very easy language: I learned it when not older than a year. Now back to erwischt: It's of the colloquial level. One also could say ertappt. It's of a higher level of speech, growing archaic now and giving an additional ironic touch. Wilfried |
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18 Oct 03 - 01:06 PM (#1037742) Subject: RE: BS: A German-English wordplay on IDS(mith) From: Jim McLean I remeber using the phrase 'foto Graf' to describe Tony Armstrong Jones, the photographer who was 'elevated to the peerage' after his marriage to Princess Margaret. |